True Detective - McConaughey/Harrelson crime series - S2 starts June 21st

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Cornballer said:
I did. It's just tough watching that, especially after the scenes at her parent's place. So dysfunctional.
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I didn't quite catch why Marty wanted to get the fuck out of his in-laws' place, and why he was rude to his father in law. Is it because he was yapping about rich guy problems?
 
RustyNails said:
I didn't quite catch why Marty wanted to get the fuck out of his in-laws' place, and why he was rude to his father in law. Is it because he was yapping about rich guy problems?
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They seemed like prudes, he seemed like he just didn't give a shit. He just wanted an out to go get some tail.
 
I still think they lock someone up in the next couple of episodes but Rust does not agree that it is the killer. Its more of a political arrest to close the case and Marty is willing to tow the line but Rust isn’t.

Instead, he keeps looking on his own and finally tracks down and kills the person who he really thinks did it (this is over the course of the seven years as partners with Marty after this case). He tells Marty but he doesn’t agree with what he did, so their partnership ends.

Rust then leaves the force as he thinks his work is done. However, the new murder makes Rust realise that he got the wrong person so he cooperates with the new detectives in 2012 to find the killer.

The new detectives and Rust find the real killer, it turns out that it was the Sherriff with all the hunting trophies in his office (easy supply of antlers). When going back over the evidence, Rust realises that Marty had found it out earlier but covered it up along the way.

Marty then kills Rust to keep him quiet and his reputation.

This is just my speculation based on the first couple of episodes.
 
To me the killer has already been introduced or atleast one of them.

The king that she met is the governor and his brother the reverend is also involved which is why we get all the religious imagery.
 
Finally watched episodes 1 & 2. My god, it's really good. Just watching the characters and little pieces here and there.

Enjoy!
 
chicko1983 said:
I still think they lock someone up in the next couple of episodes but Rust does not agree that it is the killer. Its more of a political arrest to close the case and Marty is willing to tow the line but Rust isn’t.

Instead, he keeps looking on his own and finally tracks down and kills the person who he really thinks did it (this is over the course of the seven years as partners with Marty after this case). He tells Marty but he doesn’t agree with what he did, so their partnership ends.

Rust then leaves the force as he thinks his work is done. However, the new murder makes Rust realise that he got the wrong person so he cooperates with the new detectives in 2012 to find the killer.

The new detectives and Rust find the real killer, it turns out that it was the Sherriff with all the hunting trophies in his office (easy supply of antlers). When going back over the evidence, Rust realises that Marty had found it out earlier but covered it up along the way.

Marty then kills Rust to keep him quiet and his reputation.

This is just my speculation based on the first couple of episodes.
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Dany M said:
the closed captions of the two girls in the room was something like 'you know you're adopted right..."

huh...
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Lol, definitely didn't hear that. I went back and played the DVR and I can hear one ask something like "how did she die?" and the other responds with "car accident."
 
Dany M said:
the closed captions of the two girls in the room was something like 'you know you're adopted right..."

huh...
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Interesting.

I remember hearing something along the lines of "...not having a Mom and Dad" and then something about dying in a car accident. Really odd scene.
 
RustyNails said:
I didn't quite catch why Marty wanted to get the fuck out of his in-laws' place, and why he was rude to his father in law. Is it because he was yapping about rich guy problems?
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my take was he was saying that the world is going to hell compared to back in his day and he and his job as detective wouldn't make a difference.

he was being an arrogant ass (probably as usual) and Marty probably always wants to get the fuck away from him when he starts his shit.
 
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It wasn't Rust and it wasn't Marty. Marty is too impulsive and severely lacking in the creativity and intelligence dept to pull off such an act. As for Rust it would be too obvious.

My best guess? They track the killer down but something very fucked up and supernatural takes place and the real killer gets off and due to mounting pressure from state government officials they pin it on someone that probably deserves to be in jail for other random stuff and who fits the profile but didn't actually do it.
 
I'm not so sure about and probably root against any sort of supernatural elements. The Yellow King stuff sounds like great material for a cult or other group focused on that sort of imagery or theme, so I think it will enter into the story in that way and not as any sort of actual reality as presented in the show.
 
Just caught the episode. Great, great stuff.

First off. Daddarrio. Mein Gott in Heaven.

Second off, Marty is an ass. Straight up. Pretty sure I know guys like this, they are just assholes through and through. He just deludes and self-justifies himself into a state of oblivion.

I can see why people would hate to be around Rust for more than a day at a time. The 'hubris of bringing a child into this world' is crazy stark. I did feel bad for Rust as he's coming clean about his daughter. And he has a fucked up history. Rust's hallucinations were cool.

The owl at the end was creepy, especially since no one called attention to it.

Also, Rebecca! From Banshee! Neat. Wonder if she'll turn up again (potentially as a victim?)

Speculation on next episode based on promo:

At the end of the promo, there's that dude wearing the gas mask. Bet he's the one that gets jammed up for the Dora Lange murder, and dies, but it wasn't him.
 
Have they said why they are investigating the Fontenot (spelling?) girl. I watched both episodes but I feel like I missed the connection / resolution on this one. Maybe I need to go back and re-watch them or something.

That being said I'm really enjoying it and definitely my favorite thing on tv right now.
 
Okay, now I understand why everyone was doing backflips over the news of Daddario nudity. God damn.

Anyway, show continues to be great. My imagination is racing over what might come next. I also wonder if and when the show will full-on switch over to present day.
 
I thought the kids were just playing with their dolls but in a fucked up way where they are telling the doll its parents died in a car accident.

Are people speculating that one of his daughters is adopted?

Also while I get what they are going with Marty's character, it doesn't seem real to me. That girl he was with was super hot but his wife is gorgeous too and up until now other than her just being there we don't see why he is such an ass to her or her parents.

Kinda came out of nowhere. I hope they fill that in better.

My early theory was that Marty is behind the original killings and this new one. In the opening scenes of the first episode which dates do they show the 2 FBI guys interviewing Rusty and Marty?
 
effzee said:
I thought the kids were just playing with their dolls but in a fucked up way where they are telling the doll its parents died in a car accident.

Are people speculating that one of his daughters is adopted?

Also while I get what they are going with Marty's character, it doesn't seem real to me. That girl he was with was super hot but his wife is gorgeous too and up until now other than her just being there we don't see why he is such an ass to her or her parents.

Kinda came out of nowhere. I hope they fill that in better.

My early theory was that Marty is behind the original killings and this new one. In the opening scenes of the first episode which dates do they show the 2 FBI guys interviewing Rusty and Marty?
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You can see Marty get agitated with his father in law throughout their interaction. It's really not out of nowhere and even his wife's conversation with her mother hints at some history regarding her father. They had also apparently spent the weekend at that point and obviously it wasn't Marty's idea to go in the first place, so he was anxious to leave anyway.
 
effzee said:
I thought the kids were just playing with their dolls but in a fucked up way where they are telling the doll its parents died in a car accident.

Are people speculating that one of his daughters is adopted?

Also while I get what they are going with Marty's character, it doesn't seem real to me. That girl he was with was super hot but his wife is gorgeous too and up until now other than her just being there we don't see why he is such an ass to her or her parents.

Kinda came out of nowhere. I hope they fill that in better.

My early theory was that Marty is behind the original killings and this new one. In the opening scenes of the first episode which dates do they show the 2 FBI guys interviewing Rusty and Marty?
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I think Marty's just an asshole who doesn't recognize a good thing when he sees it. If I had Michelle Monaghan as my wife, I'd be at home every goddamn night tapping that. Daddario's great, yeah, but come on. Consistency trumps random flings.

Martin is just a self-delusional asshole.
 
effzee said:
I thought the kids were just playing with their dolls but in a fucked up way where they are telling the doll its parents died in a car accident.

Are people speculating that one of his daughters is adopted?

Also while I get what they are going with Marty's character, it doesn't seem real to me. That girl he was with was super hot but his wife is gorgeous too and up until now other than her just being there we don't see why he is such an ass to her or her parents.

Kinda came out of nowhere. I hope they fill that in better.

My early theory was that Marty is behind the original killings and this new one. In the opening scenes of the first episode which dates do they show the 2 FBI guys interviewing Rusty and Marty?
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it's not always about being with a hot girl or not, it's about something new. when you are married to someone and you see them every day (the best and worst) day after day sometimes you just want something new and exciting.

now it doesn't hurt when something new and exciting is that delicious big tittied vixen he is banging
 
What I don't understand about the doll scene supposedly being a representation of a car accident is why the doll on the ground is naked. Doesn't really seem like it matches up with the dialogue there
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
it's not always about being with a hot girl or not, it's about something new. when you are married to someone and you see them every day (the best and worst) day after day sometimes you just want something new and exciting.

now it doesn't hurt when something new and exciting is that delicious big tittied vixen he is banging
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Well yeah I know that. I meant that so far from what we have seen and been told it just seems forced because his life doesn't seem shitty. Like an added "angle" just for the sake of having it.

Of course I don't mind cause dem titties but I hope they spend more time on the family since now they have hinted at problems without really showing us much.
 
effzee said:
Well yeah I know that. I meant that so far from what we have seen and been told it just seems forced because his life doesn't seem shitty. Like an added "angle" just for the sake of having it.

Of course I don't mind cause dem titties but I hope they spend more time on the family since now they have hinted at problems without really showing us much.
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well we see that her mom is just constantly nagging her "whats wrong whats wrong whats he doing what has he done" and the wife is probably sick of hearing about it. then he wants to randomly take off from their little weekend "getaway" probably to go put it in that one chicks pooper and the wife is kind of fed up after having the seeds planted by mom and then her husband is wanting to run off
 
FrenchMovieTheme said:
well we see that her mom is just constantly nagging her "whats wrong whats wrong whats he doing what has he done" and the wife is probably sick of hearing about it. then he wants to randomly take off from their little weekend "getaway" probably to go put it in that one chicks pooper and the wife is kind of fed up after having the seeds planted by mom and then her husband is wanting to run off
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I'm sorry I know you are trying to answer the question as best you can but I can't take you seriously with that avatar.

Anyway what's the Owl people are referring to in the Church?

I just remember the graffiti on the wall with the antlers and the girl. What owl?
 
effzee said:
I'm sorry I know you are trying to answer the question as best you can but I can't take you seriously with that avatar.

Anyway what's the Owl people are referring to in the Church?

I just remember the graffiti on the wall with the antlers and the girl. What owl?
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i'll be honest this avatar makes me want to kill myself

p.s.

there was an owl sitting on top of one of the ceiling boards when they walk into the church initially
 
effzee said:
Of course I don't mind cause dem titties but I hope they spend more time on the family since now they have hinted at problems without really showing us much.
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I think the "problem" is Martin's fairly intense fling. All he seems interested in doing when not at work is banging Daddario's character. The wife senses something is up and he refuses to open up, hence the conflict.
 
effzee said:
I'm sorry I know you are trying to answer the question as best you can but I can't take you seriously with that avatar.

Anyway what's the Owl people are referring to in the Church?

I just remember the graffiti on the wall with the antlers and the girl. What owl?
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There was an owl just on the top of a roof beam in the middle of the burnt out half of the church. It wasnt ever focussed in on a shot though.

As for Marty's marriage, from what I saw in some of the promo videos in the OP
There is a scene with Marty's packed bags at the bottom of the stairs as he walks in the door. So his wife kicks him out at some stage. There is another scene with Rust and her in a coffee shop together and her describing Rust as if she is being interviewed. So not sure if Rust and her have an affair but I reckon Rust at least tells her about Marty's affair
 
xtrasauce said:
I think the "problem" is Martin's fairly intense fling. All he seems interested in doing when not at work is banging Daddario's character. The wife senses something is up and he refuses to open up, hence the conflict.
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Doesn't sound like it was the first time this has happened, too. He also tells the story in the bar where he was hooking up early in his career and her roommate gets home. There's no telling if he was married at that point, but it sounds like something he's regularly involved with.
 
Cornballer said:
Doesn't sound like it was the first time this has happened, too. He also tells the story in the bar where he was hooking up early in his career and her roommate gets home. There's no telling if he was married at that point, but it sounds like something he's regularly involved with.
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And it's not something he's reflected on by 2012 and decided it was a bad idea, so it definitely sounds like it's always been there.
 
Outdoor Miner said:
It wasn't Rust and it wasn't Marty. Marty is too impulsive and severely lacking in the creativity and intelligence dept to pull off such an act. As for Rust it would be too obvious.

My best guess? They track the killer down but something very fucked up and supernatural takes place and the real killer gets off and due to mounting pressure from state government officials they pin it on someone that probably deserves to be in jail for other random stuff and who fits the profile but didn't actually do it.
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I think its set uo to be a religious based cover up more than anything supernatural and the coverup from as up high as the governor. That in turn is what ruins their relationship and why rust leaves and the force.
 
KHarvey16 said:
Kids dolls are always naked.
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I have a naked (except for the hood) 12" Cobra Commander in a box somewhere that proves your point.

Zeus Molecules said:
I think its set uo to be a religious based cover up more than anything supernatural and the coverup from as up high as the governor. That in turn is what ruins their relationship and why rust leaves and the force.
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That makes the most sense to me. Obviously the governor is trying to wrap an anti-Christian bow around it, and it being a Christian based cult or something would go against that narrative.
 
+1 to Daddario

Great show so far. Definitely has me struggling to think of who did it. I agree that we've probably already seen on screen the murderer or at least a conspirator. I don't think it was Rust or Marty at this point, and I don't think either of them are conspirators, at least not willing conspirators.
 
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