Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS Thread 4: New Year, Old Arguments

Great to see Lucario back, he was one of my mains in Brawl, such a fun character.

I also expect Mewtwo to return because
1) He's popular and,
2) Gen 6 didn't have a 'posterboy' sort of character like Lucario and Zoroark were for gens 4 and 5, and instead used Mega Mewtwo and Mega Lucario.
 
I'm still runnin' with this.

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Is there any actual proof that Mewtwo could come back or are you guys just being let down by your own hype?

Depends upon what you want. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence within Brawl's data files that indicate Mewtwo and Roy were farther in development than Wolf, but were inexplicably left incomplete. People point towards Sonic's delay as being the cause.
 
Neat.
Not really.
I liked him in Brawl but I could not understand why he just had to be there. Good for people who wanted him though.

Welp, I'll have to have more patience for Chrom and Palutena.
 
The translator leak had Lucario just sayin.

But Diddy were supposed to be next veteran reveal. This rumor is fake.

Wasn't diddy supposed tobe the next reveal? Probably remembering wrong.

Yep, you are right.

With Lucario confirmed, I’m feeling more confident about my basic roster outline prediction: everyone from Brawl will be back, Mewtwo will return from Melee, and there will be 10 newcomers for a total of 50 playable characters.

I'm glad that he returned so that meant you might be right that no one is getting cut. Snake is still up in the air.

wakes up in the middle of the night for some reason.


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Yep, same here. WOOOOOO!

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My spider sense just woke me up and checked the update. Pretty good update.
 
Do we have any confirmation that actual secret characters will remain a secret? I kind of got spoiled on the brawl dojo and nothing was a secret. :/ going off the internet will be hard seeing as it will be ALL OVER THE INTERNET
 
Just realized that today is the 6 year anniversary of Brawl in Japan, so that's why Sakurai made the additional comment about the Brawl team's hard work.
 
REVEAL CALENDAR
2013:
June 11: E3, Smash 4 site opens, initial characters: Mario, Link, Kirby, Donkey Kong, Fox, Pit, Samus, Pikachu and Bowser as veterans and Villager, Mega Man and Wii Fit Trainer as newcomers. Stages: Battlefield, Boxing Ring, Wily's Fortress, Skyloft, New Super Mario Bros., Wii Fit Training Room, Gerudo Valley, Arena Ferox, Nintendogs, Smashville, weird adventure mode looking stage.

June 12: Smash Ball item.
July 12: Pikmin & Olimar, Garden of Hope Wii U stage.
Jul 23: Kid Icarus 3DS stage.
August 6: Pilot Wings/Wuhu Island Wii U stage.
Aug 7: Luigi.
Aug 16: X-Bomb item.
Aug 20: Pyrosphere Wii U stage.
September 10: Mario Galaxy Wii U stage (tease).
Sep 12: Peach.
Sep 26: Toon Link.
October 1: Sonic and Windy Hill Wii U stage.
Oct 18: Xerneas (likely to be a Pokeball).
Oct 31: Male Wii Fit Trainer (Status currently unknown - alt costume?).
November 4: Hocotate Spaceship item.
Nov 7: Marth.
Nov 11: Capsule item.
Nov 15: Mario Galaxy stage full confirmation.
Nov 26: Ray Gun item.
December 3: Find Mii 3DS stage.
Dec 6: Assist Trophy returns. Skull Kid as AT.
Dec 9: Steel Diver item.
Dec 13: Nintendog as AT.
Dec 18: Rosalina & Luma. Trailer confirms Fire Flower, Green Shell, Pokeball items.
Dec 24: Rainbow Road 3DS stage.
Dec 25: Stafy as AT.
Dec 26: Zelda.

2014:
January 6: Trophy item. Saria trophy.
Jan 10: King Dedede.
Jan 15: Ashley as AT.
Jan 20: Weird adventure mode looking stage. Might be the same as the one in the E3 trailer.
Jan 24: Alfonzo replaces Toon Link on the Spirit Tracks 3DS stage when TL is played.
Jan 28: Beetle item.
Jan 29: Kid Icarus-related Wii U stage. Sakurai's epic trolling reconfirmed.
Jan 31: Lucario.
 
Do we have any confirmation that actual secret characters will remain a secret? I kind of got spoiled on the brawl dojo and nothing was a secret. :/ going off the internet will be hard seeing as it will be ALL OVER THE INTERNET

Who know. Some people are speculating that we might not have unlockable characters this time.
 
I knew it, I saw no reason for Lucario to be cut. He gained a mega evolution since then, and people have to realise that there are more people playing pokemon now who've played pokemon diamond/pearl than there are who've played red/blue.

Besides, if Mewtwo came back and Lucario left, it was going to be four gen 1 representitives (Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Mewtwo, Pokemon Trainer).

Jigglypuff isn't getting cut. I'm sticking to my original prediction:

Pikachu
Jigglypuff
Pokemon Trainer
Lucario
Sylveon
 
Do we have any confirmation that actual secret characters will remain a secret? I kind of got spoiled on the brawl dojo and nothing was a secret. :/ going off the internet will be hard seeing as it will be ALL OVER THE INTERNET

Personally I'm believing that we might not get unlockable characters this time around. One of the reasons for that is Sakurai's statement about the SSE stuff, that people would just watch the cutscenes online and don't enjoy unlocking secrets like that anymore.
 
I just realized that, counting DK, over a quarter of the revealed characters are from the Mario universe, and Lucario is the only new representative from the Pokemon universe since E3 despite having the second-most amount of playable characters in Brawl.

At least we're likely to get some more franchise variety for the next few reveals.

Next is gonna be Diddy.
 
Even you bro? :'(

Fixed it:

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I like it. Replace Anna with a Paper Mario character (I'd prefer it not to be PM himself), Shulk with Knuckles, make Diddy/Dixie a tag team and then add K Rool and it's exactly what I'm hoping for.


Edit- although in my wildest of dreams, Spyro would be in.
 
Well that came out of nowhere. Still can't believe people thought Lucario would be cut.

Personally, I never thought he would be (I don't think there will be any cuts beyond Snake if Konami says No), but I always conceded that he is one of the most likely cuts.
 
I don't hate Lucario & I think he plays great btw. I just don't have strong feelings towards him as a character.

I might actually play him now that he actually looks like a pokemon though.

haha well that is better, Kinda wish sakurai would have revealed mewtwo first so people wouldnt be so down on him.
 
Lucario was the gunman on the grassy knoll that shot President Mewtwo.

Sonic was framed.
 
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