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[Trike]

Found on Twitter

Awesome idea

Spoiler

as like a special mode or something, instead of specific to a stage

?

I wouldn't get your hopes up for something like that happening. Unless they just make a filter over the models, which wouldn't look nearly as cool. But I would assume Mr. Game and Watch would be over powered on his own turf.

 

[Azebra]

It wasn't in Melee because each stage in Melee had 1 or 2 perfect tracks per stage, instead of a bunch of mediocre tracks to choose from like in Brawl.

come the fuck at me melee ost >>>>>>>> brawl ost

According to this you have the worst opinion in the world.

 

[I'M FINISHED!]

How can you make that assumption without having seen Lucario's Final Smash? If Mega Evolutions are in the game, they're obviously going to be Final Smashes.

Do Final Smashes count as part of a characters general moveset? They are item locked. Anyway, I wasn't referring to Final Smashes, and besides, I am an advocate of relegating mega evolutions to Final Smashes if they even appear.

Also, plenty of people here don't seem to think it is obvious that mega evolutions would be a final smash. Many people on here have droned on about a possible Zelda/Sheik style for Mewtwo.

 

[theprodigy]

According to this you have the worst opinion in the world.

That's not possible, he didn't defend random tripping

 

[Immaculate]

Found on Twitter

Awesome idea

Spoiler

as like a special mode or something, instead of specific to a stage

?

NEED

lmao good riddance

that guy was always negative for no reason

 

[Berordn]

Also, plenty of people here don't seem to think it is obvious that mega evolutions would be a final smash. Many people on here have droned on about a possible Zelda/Sheik style for Mewtwo.

While turning them into a final smash is the easiest avenue of inclusion, it'd be kind of neat if Lucairo's aura was reworked such that he builds it up over a match and then goes mega with it.

 

[Spinluck]

It wasn't in Melee because each stage in Melee had 1 or 2 perfect tracks per stage, instead of a bunch of mediocre tracks to choose from like in Brawl.

come the fuck at me melee ost >>>>>>>> brawl ost

Shit post.

 

[theprodigy]

While turning them into a final smash is the easiest avenue of inclusion, it'd be kind of neat if Lucairo's aura was reworked such that he builds it up over a match and then goes mega with it.

Now this sounds amazing

 

[Revven]

Doesn't Brawl's soundtrack contain like 90% of the good songs in Melee?

It doesn't have the original Gourmet Race theme, therefore it is inferior in every single way for missing that one important track. (No, the garbage metal remix on Halberd doesn't count and neither does FoD's rendition).

 

[Crocodile]

The Lucario reveal thread is like the Dead Sea and I can't from any logical perspective understand why some people are so upset :/

 

[Ryce]

The Lucario reveal thread is like the Dead Sea and I can't from any logical perspective understand why some people are so upset :/

Lucario replaced Mewtwo, man.

 

[SmithnCo]

The Lucario reveal thread is like the Dead Sea and I can't from any logical perspective understand why some people are so upset :/

Yeah, lotta weird logic there, haha.

 

[Azure J]

The Lucario reveal thread is like the Dead Sea and I can't from any logical perspective understand why some people are so upset :/

I just can't imagine what the Wolf reveal thread is going to look like after seeing this...

 

[Village]

The Lucario reveal thread is like the Dead Sea and I can't from any logical perspective understand why some people are so upset :/

Lucario replaced mewtwo.

Also he is only popular because furries, because reasons.


two dudes from gamexplain talk about mewtwo....

 

[Regulus Tera]

The Lucario reveal thread is like the Dead Sea and I can't from any logical perspective understand why some people are so upset :/

Mega Lucario is fucking BS.

But in general, he's just a shitty designed Pokémon.

 

[-Horizon-]

The Lucario reveal thread is like the Dead Sea and I can't from any logical perspective understand why some people are so upset :/

And that's why I tend to stick to this thread rather than the offshoots. At least I somewhat know and understand the craziness here.

And you know who else's name starts with "Luc? Lucina. Yep, she is the next reveal.

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forget you Lucas fans, Lucina has to be next ;-;

 

[Revven]

The Lucario reveal thread is like the Dead Sea and I can't from any logical perspective understand why some people are so upset :/

He's a 4th gen Pokemon which has now become one of the least liked gens, he "replaced" Mewtwo (which is probably the main reason for most people), *and* he started the stupid fallacies about how Mewtwo and him share the same move set when that is not even remotely true -- even in 2014 there are still people who think this and it blows my mind.

He's the symbol of one of the worst character cuts to happen in Smash, even if you weren't very invested in Mewtwo, a lot of people were (despite how the vocal minority actually wanted him out of the game for being a bad character???????)

Basically, a lot of stupid shit surrounds him that has no bearing on how he actually plays in the game is why people hate him.

 

[Village]

He's a 4th gen Pokemon which has now become one of the least liked gens, he "replaced" Mewtwo (which is probably the main reason for most people), *and* he started the stupid misnomers about how Mewtwo and him share the same move set when that is not even remotely true -- even in 2014 there are still people who think this and it blows my mind.

He's the symbol of one of the worst character cuts to happen in Smash, even if you weren't very invested in Mewtwo, a lot of people were (despite how the vocal minority actually wanted him out of the game for being a bad character???????)

Basically, a lot of stupid shit surrounds him that has no bearing on how he actually plays in the game is why people hate him.

A minority group yelling at clouds.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Nah, I went and edited it so it'd be better to read anyway.

It's funny, as much as I know I'd love to see Palu in game, I actually don't know what archetype she'd be saddled with. As long as she has some oomph behind herself, is very mobile and/or is a projectile monster, that'd already be good enough for me.

I always liked that Turret/Tower Defense style of play ever since I saw it mentioned in these threads. It'd be sorta like playing Kokonoe (Blazblue) and Doronjo (Tatsunoko vs Capcom) at the same time, you build your "bases" on the field and have people cover it and yourself until it's ready then you reap the benefits.

As for my own personal desire, well I don't have anything too grand. The only thing I wanted was a good flail using character, hence my biggest reason for supporting Mike Jones as playable since forever ago. I've always imagined him as a fast paced character that was primarily based around his Island Star (the yo-yo he uses) and it's ability to transform based on his level of focus between a basic yo-yo, a morning star, and that supremely wicked looking flail that shoots flash bangs forward. I even made a moveset for this a few years ago.



Needless to say, this was done a loooooooong time ago. Five years to be exact.

For Palutena, I would like that if she received din flare traps system so she can set up light balls around her for amazing combo. A lot of potential there. I love to do combos with Din Flare with Zelda.

Build Base character would be fantastic representative for Advance Wars but I doubt it would happens anyway.

Your Mike Jone sound so gooood. I really hope that Mike Jones would get in along with Takamaru. What scared me about Mike Jones is that there is weird omission of Star Tropic in Brawl even they mentioned almost every series there are. I would like it very much if Mike receive level system where he can level up his yoyo. Like UMVC3's Frank West.

 

[MrSaturn99]

It doesn't have the original Gourmet Race theme, therefore it is inferior in every single way for missing that one important track. (No, the garbage metal remix on Halberd doesn't count and neither does FoD's rendition).

To this day I'm still astounded as to how the boppiest song in Kirby Super Star was transformed into a orchestral, fantasy epic. I'd love to know the story behind that.

He's a 4th gen Pokemon which has now become one of the least liked gens, he "replaced" Mewtwo (which is probably the main reason for most people), *and* he started the stupid fallacies about how Mewtwo and him share the same move set when that is not even remotely true -- even in 2014 there are still people who think this and it blows my mind.

He's the symbol of one of the worst character cuts to happen in Smash, even if you weren't very invested in Mewtwo, a lot of people were (despite how the vocal minority actually wanted him out of the game for being a bad character???????)

Basically, a lot of stupid shit surrounds him that has no bearing on how he actually plays in the game is why people hate him.

I don't even like Gen 4 and I am just as confused as you are. Mewtwo was one of my favorite Pokes growing up and I never beared ill will towards Lucario for the former's exclusion. There's no reason why they can't coexist.

Your Mike Jone sound so gooood. I really hope that Mike Jones would get in along with Takamaru. What scared me about Mike Jones is that there is weird omission of Star Tropic in Brawl even they mentioned almost every series there are. I would like it very much if Mike receive level system where he can level up his yoyo. Like UMVC3's Frank West.

I'm guessing since both game were never released in Japan, Sakurai/the Smash Bros. teams were never really familiar with it.

But hey, you can always go into the Chronicles and check out its release date!

 

[IntelliHeath]

I'm guessing since both game were never released in Japan, Sakurai/the Smash Bros. teams were never really familiar with it.

But hey, you can always go into the Chronicles and check out its release date!

I will check Chronicles for Star Tropic, but seriously they should add western character to shock Japanese players with american character. That would be cool tho.

 

[Anbec7]

Could someone please post the leak list?
I tried finding it but no luck

 

[BassForever]

Could someone please post the leak list?
I tried finding it but no luck

New leak list or an old one?

 

[Javier]

My theory: Lucario's Final Smash is still Aura Storm, but now he Megaevolves while he performs the attack.

(First post with the awesome Neorice avatar!)

 

[Tom Nook Sawyer]

Lucario replaced mewtwo.

Also he is only popular because furries, because reasons.


two dudes from gamexplain talk about mewtwo....

I hope they implement their Mega Evolution idea when Lucario reaches a certain damage %. That would actually make him an interesting character

 

[Anbec7]

New leak list or an old one?

The one that said that Rosalina is the only newcomer
is a lot of text, thanks

 

[fisheyes]

I hope they implement their Mega Evolution idea when Lucario reaches a certain damage %. That would actually make him an interesting character

This sounds good to me. Make the Aura mechanic more apparent by having him Mega Evolve when his aura reaches a certain level, ie he takes enough damage. Once he evolves you get a permanent stat boost, so even if you then find a healing item and heal yourself, you still stay as a more powerful Mega Lucario.

Also, with yet another character that probably would've been secret revealed, I am firmly in the "all characters unlocked from the start" camp. And I'm more than ok with this.

 

[Caladrius]

Also, with yet another character that probably would've been secret revealed, I am firmly in the "all characters unlocked from the start" camp. And I'm more than ok with this.

I'd hesitate to make any conclusions about the status of unlockable characters until we reach a certain threshold. Both Melee and Brawl's starting rosters made up 60% of the total cast. (14/25 and 21/35 respectively.) If the total amount of revealed characters exceeds 36 or so it'd be reasonable to suspect no unlockables.

 

[ArchedThunder]

While turning them into a final smash is the easiest avenue of inclusion, it'd be kind of neat if Lucairo's aura was reworked such that he builds it up over a match and then goes mega with it.

I could see that, like at 150% he goes Mega.

 

[-Horizon-]

I could see that, like at 150% he goes Mega.

And proceeds to get smashed off the stage.

 

[Drago]

I could see that, like at 150% he goes Mega.

I would love this. The best idea I've heard in regards to putting Mega Pokémon in somehow, tbh.

 

[TheCongressman1]

I could see that, like at 150% he goes Mega.

That would actually make me like lucario.

 

[theprodigy]

150%?
That's too high

 

[Nickle]

I really liked Lucario. If he was in Melee, I think he would be one of the 26 most popular Smash fighters in this thread.

 

[ArchedThunder]

150%?
That's too high

Not really, doesn't his attack boost max at like 200 or 300? 150 is high but manageable. If you put it any lower there is no point in it even being normal Lucario at the start.

 

[IntelliHeath]

That would actually make me like lucario.

Are you planning to update the wallpaper once Diddy Kong or Kong got reveal on Feb 13?

 

[theprodigy]

Not really, doesn't his attack boost max at like 200 or 300? 150 is high but manageable. If you put it any lower there is no point in it even being normal Lucario at the start.

Lucario's normally DEAD by 150%, and nobody ever reaches the max boost in Brawl anyway

 

[Benzychenz]

150%?
That's too high

Nah 150% seems about right. You'd still be regular Lucario most of the time, and if you manage to get to 150% and survive you get to wreck shit for a little bit.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Lucario's normally DEAD by 150%, and nobody ever reaches the max boost in Brawl anyway

Not from what I've seen, good players can stick around, at least in 4 player matches which is pretty much what the game is built around.

 

[Nickle]

Not really, doesn't his attack boost max at like 200 or 300? 150 is high but manageable. If you put it any lower there is no point in it even being normal Lucario at the start.

It stops increasing at 167% in Brawl. http://supersmashbros.wikia.com/wiki/Lucario_(SSBB)

 

[IntelliHeath]

Waiting for Weiner Whistle to update his roster chart, and Chronicle's NES section do included Star Tropic. I guess it's only one thing that acknowledged Star Tropic's existence.

 

[fisheyes]

I'd hesitate to make any conclusions about the status of unlockable characters until we reach a certain threshold. Both Melee and Brawl's starting rosters made up 60% of the total cast. (14/25 and 21/35 respectively.) If the total amount of revealed characters exceeds 36 or so it'd be reasonable to suspect no unlockables.

It's not the numbers, it's the characters they have revealed already.

Even if you discount Luigi as a one-off for e Year of Luigi, we've seen Toon Link, Marth, Lucario - all characters that were been secret in all previous appearances. Toon Link was to promote Wind Waker, but you honestly couldve used Zelda or something just fine. Mar and Lucario really came out of nowhere, there wasnt a 'need' to reveal them before release unless they arent secret.

We've had Rosalina revealed as a newcomer when you would assume that if any newcomer was going to be secret, it would be her, being an unexpected character and the fifth Mario character to boot.

Sakurai also talked about the Internet giving away content from his games. Yes, he was specifically talking about videos, but characters are exactly the same. I'm sure he would rather have a greater level of control of when characters are revealed, by revealing them himself in the lead up to release.

The thing with unlockable characters is that you can either hide new characters away - in which case you limit the amount of characters you can show off prior to release just for the sake of it - or you can hide characters that people already know are in (kind of like Brawl did), and then, well what's the point? Just do away with it. Smash has plenty of content it can arbitrarily hold away from the player to supposedly compell them to play a game that should be good enough to compell them regardless, so why lock characters - the games main selling point - away? It's just not necessary.

 

[Platy]

Found on Twitter

Awesome idea

Spoiler

as like a special mode or something, instead of specific to a stage

?

Well, it is praticaly impossible to find a screenshot of this, but in Game & Watch stage in brawl every character was flat while rotating the camera during the pause.

So it MIGHT be possible.... but of course not with entire new models =/

 

[-Horizon-]

Not from what I've seen, good players can stick around, at least in 4 player matches which is pretty much what the game is built around.

That's basically locking a big character feature behind a wall for most players.

 

[Platy]

The fact that the Art Academy community is the same for every region makes it IMPOSSIBLE to find this drawing

Been holding page down for a while and I am still "1 day ago"

 

[theprodigy]

I asked this in the IRC, might as well ask here too:
From a scale of 1 to 9, 1 being Brawl speed and 9 being Melee speed, what speed do you want for SSB4?

Spoiler

I say Project M/64

 

[Platy]

FOUND IT !

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYQHAAABAAC_UqFKoeUFhQ

edit :

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYQHAAABAAC_UqFKAJJTsw

Awesome use of drawing and screenshot

 

[ffdgh]

I asked this in the IRC, might as well ask here too:
From a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being Brawl speed and 10 being Melee speed, what speed do you want for SSB4?

Spoiler

I say 1 Project M/64

7? tho whatever speed project m is I'll take that too.

 

[IntelliHeath]

I asked this in the IRC, might as well ask here too:
From a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being Brawl speed and 10 being Melee speed, what speed do you want for SSB4?

Spoiler

I say 1 Project M/64

Are you sure you want 1? That's Brawl speed.


I would like between 5-9, but It look like it might be 2 in the trailers.

 

[Ivan 3414]

lol. 150% for Mega Lucario would be terrible, because, remember guys, there are kids who like Lucario and want to power up and be awesome, but won't ever get to see it because of you selfish pro players.

It's really a terrible idea.