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[jph139]

I mean, there's clearly salt, but I think a lot of people don't like Lucario because he's just... not appealing to them. Me? I hate Lucario. I think he's absolutely terrible.

I prefer Brawl to Melee. 4th Gen is my favorite Pokemon gen. I fully expect Mewtwo to return, and he was clearly planned for Brawl alongside Lucario. His playstyle is fine, and actually pretty interesting, I think. I have no problem with him returning - more veterans the better.

But he's really, really ugly, with a design that seems pinpointed to "what can we make cool" rather than "what makes sense." He's the worst sort of "badass" Pokemon that they keep bringing back, when there's dozens if not hundreds of better designed, better realized Pokemon that deserve attention. He's an obvious "trying to be cool" design that, worst of all, seems to have actually worked.

(Sidebar: I actually really like Riolu, though...)

 

[IntelliHeath]

I'd be okay as long as the 3DS game comes out this year.

Which is seeming unlikely.

Naw, 3DS will be out by end of 2014. If not then you can call me stinky bacon for a week in IRC chatroom. (clarified it for some people who missed out with IRC chatroom.)

 

[-Horizon-]

I'd be okay as long as the 3DS game comes out this year.

Which is seeming unlikely.

we have to believe harder!

Naw, 3DS will be out by end of 2014. If not then you can call me stinky bacon.

strange tag choice lol

 

[Gartooth]

I'm a bit in disbelief that Nintendo's lineup for the first half of the year just consists of DK in February and Mario Kart in May. I was optimistic that Smash was coming sooner than we think but with how late Mario Kart is launching maybe I'm just fooling myself to think that Smash would be out by September.

 

[zroid]

Among the GAF posts on the wall (I'm trying to ignore the 4chan shit because who the fuck cares about 4chan), the best one has got to be...

"This piece of shit is like the Sonic of Pokémon. Trying to make an 'edgy' character and shit. Absolutely awful."

 

[IntelliHeath]

we have to believe harder!



strange tag choice lol

Naw, I will change my name in IRC chat room for a week if I'm wrong. Sah, REMEMBER THIS.

 

[friskykillface]

come back snake :'(



so will E3 by the first chance for the public to play it? I still have hope for pax east 2014

 

[GAMERG0D]

It baffles me how people think Mewtwo won't make it in. Let's look at something real quick. Mario has 5 reps in Smash 4. Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, and Rosalina. Wario, DK, and Yoshi are considered as part of separate series in Brawl so they don't count. Now Pokemon has Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Lucario, Pokemon Trainer, and Mewtwo. Which would also be 5 reps. Pokemon is also Nintendo's 2nd largest franchise after Mario. Since this would be the same number of reps, why do people think Mewtwo would be cut? He was only cut in Brawl because of time constraints.

 

[munchie64]

Searched the thread and didn't see it, but holy fucking shit at this Smash Bros x Attack on Titan OP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3KUZVkco4g

Wow! That was amazing. Wish it was the first theme though

 

[Kyzer]

Cut jiggly add mewtwo and chespin braixen greninja yw

 

[Jaeger]

Mewtwo will be in it. I'm sure of it. Nintendo has been pimping them both hard this gen with the Mega forms and what not.

And Sakurai is aware of how much people want him to return to Smash.

 

[BY2K]

He. Will. Fucking. Return.

 

[AnkiRendan]

One of the most amusing things about the picture is that people are using Lucario to complain about only veterans being shown off.

But Mewtwo isn't a newcomer to Smash. '__' He's just as much of a veteran as Lucario is.

 

[Servbot24]

I don't see why Lucario means no Mewtwo... and they can definitely have quite different move sets. I'm glad both will (hopefully) be in.

Get rid of Pokemon trainer though. Project M did that right.

I don't really care if there's a new Pokemon rep.

 

[TheLegendOfCap]

He. Will. Fucking. Return.

Seriously. And when he does, he will be treated as an honorary newcomer just so his reveal video has an excuse to say:

"MEWTWO RETURNS"

 

[Vidiot]

It baffles me how people think Mewtwo won't make it in. Let's look at something real quick. Mario has 5 reps in Smash 4. Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, and Rosalina. Wario, DK, and Yoshi are considered as part of separate series in Brawl so they don't count. Now Pokemon has Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Lucario, Pokemon Trainer, and Mewtwo. Which would also be 5 reps. Pokemon is also Nintendo's 2nd largest franchise after Mario. Since this would be the same number of reps, why do people think Mewtwo would be cut? He was only cut in Brawl because of time constraints.

You're kinda ignoring that Pokemon Trainer is like three reps in one though.

Not that I'm saying there's no way Mewtwo will return. I personally really hope he does.

 

[Baron von Loathsome]

Seriously. And when he does, he will be treated as an honorary newcomer just so his reveal video has an excuse to say:

"MEWTWO STRIKES BACK"

Fixed.

 

[IntelliHeath]

I know we don't have full roster for Smash 4 but I want to show the comparison between concept arts.

 

[SuperSah]

Naw, I will change my name in IRC chat room for a week if I'm wrong. Sah, REMEMBER THIS.

 

[Neoxon]

It baffles me how people think Mewtwo won't make it in. Let's look at something real quick. Mario has 5 reps in Smash 4. Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, and Rosalina. Wario, DK, and Yoshi are considered as part of separate series in Brawl so they don't count. Now Pokemon has Pikachu, Jigglypuff, Lucario, Pokemon Trainer, and Mewtwo. Which would also be 5 reps. Pokemon is also Nintendo's 2nd largest franchise after Mario. Since this would be the same number of reps, why do people think Mewtwo would be cut? He was only cut in Brawl because of time constraints.

That's kinda what I was thinking, though some friends I was talking to were speculating on if Red would be replaced with Calem or Serena.

I'm personally leaning more towards Red returning (maybe with a Leaf alternate).

 

[Roo]

Saw this on Tumblr and thought it was cool.

 

[IntelliHeath]

What's wrong?

 

[SuperSah]

What's wrong?

One week is not enough. Call it a month.

 

[zroid]

Saw this on Tumblr and thought it was cool.

man, Melee had a really shitty logo compared to the other three games

 

[Kyzon]

wonder black is indian

I said "Of Color". Not specifically black. Well in my second post I did.

Game and Watch is the blackest of black though.

 

[Wichu]

I know we don't have full roster for Smash 4 but I want to show the comparison between games models.

They're not the in-game models (for Melee/Brawl/4), though. This is more of an art style comparison. New Smash is looking really good

 

[MagiusNecros]

One week is not enough. Call it a month.

How about a year.

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Tropical Freeze comes out in Japan on the 13th of February. I suspect we'll see something interesting around then.

 

[ArchedThunder]

I know we don't have full roster for Smash 4 but I want to show the comparison between games models.

The Brawl and SSB4 ones aren't the in-game models.

 

[IntelliHeath]

They're not the in-game models (for Melee/Brawl/4), though. This is more of an art style comparison. New Smash is looking really good

Indeed. I edited my post. For in game models, I will put it on hold until Smash 4 get released.

I would like to post one of my favorite picture from Melee.

 

[Linkstrikesback]

Tropical Freeze comes out in Japan on the 13th of February. I suspect we'll see something interesting around then.

Expect Diddy Kong, hope for

Spoiler

Cranky

 

[MagiusNecros]

Expect Diddy Kong, hope for

Spoiler

Cranky

I like Diddy Kong though. So more power to me. As in interesting I mean something other then typical screenshot of nothing.

 

[Richie]

We've had Rosalina revealed as a newcomer when you would assume that if any newcomer was going to be secret, it would be her, being an unexpected character and the fifth Mario character to boot.

Everyone recalls Metwo's data on Brawl's disc, but wasn't Dr. Mario there also? Maybe both him and Luigi are the Mario unlockables, who knows?

 

[Kyzon]

Mewtwo will be in it. I'm sure of it. Nintendo has been pimping them both hard this gen with the Mega forms and what not.

And Sakurai is aware of how much people want him to return to Smash.

I'm very sure the Pokemon Company are pushing for Mewtwo's Inclusion.

He had three major appearances last year. There was Pokemon X/Y with him being catchable, and having both mega forms, then there was the Genesect movie where Ladytwo was more the focus than Genesect in it's own movie. Then raging game Mewtwo was in Pokemon Origins.

Mewtwo and Lucario will be here repping.

 

[MagiusNecros]

So now that we have Lucario. Will he Mega Evolve?

 

[ArchedThunder]

Indeed. I edited my post. For in game models, I will put it on hold until Smash 4 get released.

I would like to post one of my favorite picture from Melee.

Yeah, I also love how they did a line up of the cast of Brawl in that game's opening.
SSB4 better have something with the entire cast lined up.

I'm very sure the Pokemon Company are pushing for Mewtwo's Inclusion.

He had three major appearances last year. There was Pokemon X/Y with him being catchable, and having both mega forms, then there was the Genesect movie where Ladytwo was more the focus than Genesect in it's own movie. Then raging game Mewtwo was in Pokemon Origins.

Mewtwo and Lucario will be here repping.

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Gen VI's reps are Mega Mewtwo and Lucario.

 

[Muzy72]

Everyone recalls Metwo's data on Brawl's disc, but wasn't Dr. Mario there also? Maybe both him and Luigi are the Mario unlockables, who knows?

The reason everyone points out Mewtwo is because he, along with Dixie, are the only ones who aren't clones on that list. I doubt any of the cut clones are returning.

 

[Hobobloke]

So now that we have Lucario. Will he Mega Evolve?

It's got to be his final smash, though anything would be better than the shitty ass kamehameha he had.

 

[ArchedThunder]

It's got to be his final smash, though anything would be better than the shitty ass kamehameha he had.

Bro, his final smash was amazing.

 

[theprodigy]

The reason everyone points out Mewtwo is because he, along with Dixie, are the only ones who aren't clones on that list. I doubt any of the cut clones are returning.

but Mewtwo IS a clone!

 

[MagiusNecros]

but Mewtwo IS a clone!

Imperfect clone anyway. He ain't no Mew that's for sure.

 

[ArchedThunder]

but Mewtwo IS a clone!

I know you are joking, but this was talked about yesterday. Mewtwo is only a clone in the anime, in the games Mewtwo is the child of Mew that was experimented on.

 

[Vidiot]

but Mewtwo IS a clone!

The circumstances of one's birth are irrelevant; it is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are.

 

[Kjellson]

Kinda controversial opinion, but I would probably be happier than Mewtwo if Roy returned too.

 

[Zalman]

So now that we have Lucario. Will he Mega Evolve?

According to Pokémon lore, it would be impossible for Lucario (and Mewtwo) to Mega Evolve in Smash Bros. since it requires a trainer with a Mega Ring. A wild Pokémon can't technically Mega Evolve.

 

[Ryce]

According to Pokémon lore, it would be impossible for Lucario (and Mewtwo) to Mega Evolve in Smash Bros. since it requires a trainer with a Mega Ring. A wild Pokémon can't technically Mega Evolve.

I think I read somewhere that Mewtwo Mega Evolves in the Genesect movie without a trainer. There's also a lot of baseless, non-canonical stuff in Smash Bros. (Lucario's aura mechanic is practically invented from scratch), so I don't think a sans-trainer Mega Evolution is out of the picture.

 

[ash_ag]

Has anyone considered the fact that Mega Evolution (at least as far as we know) isn't possible without a trainer? I wonder what this means for Lucario. Perhaps Korrina will appear during his Final Smash sequence.

Or maybe just Ri

Spoiler

d

ley.

Edit:

According to Pokémon lore, it would be impossible for Lucario (and Mewtwo) to Mega Evolve in Smash Bros. since it requires a trainer with a Mega Ring. A wild Pokémon can't technically Mega Evolve.

Hah! You posted this as I was typing!

 

[Neoxon]

Kinda controversial opinion, but I would probably be happier than Mewtwo if Roy returned too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRy3wICXVXI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[MagiusNecros]

According to Pokémon lore, it would be impossible for Lucario (and Mewtwo) to Mega Evolve in Smash Bros. since it requires a trainer with a Mega Ring. A wild Pokémon can't technically Mega Evolve.

According to Smash Lore every character is a Figurine brought to life.

 

[ALM5252]

I know you are joking, but this was talked about yesterday. Mewtwo is only a clone in the anime, in the games Mewtwo is the child of Mew that was experimented on.

He could still technically be a clone. How else were they able to get the DNA to impregnate Mew? Mew was both the surrogate mother and possibly original source for the DNA.

Clones still have to be born, so it really doesn't change. Only difference is them having identical genes to the original source. The anime only used tubes because I'm sure they didn't wanna show a birth. Plus all the other clones in the movie wouldn't be able to do much, because they would have been babies rather than enhanced genetic copies. It was needed to be done that way for the movie's story.

Only reason I've brought this up is because Metal Gear Solid has explained about clones. Lol

 

[Choppasmith]

Well with the weekend fully upon us and doing a search turned up nothing, thought I'd share this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh-BEKM-jRc

Awesome Star Wars/ Smash mashup.

Right now it's just New Hope and a two part Empire parody which just came out recently. TONS of awesome little easter eggs and references!