Super Smash Bros Wii U & 3DS Thread 4: New Year, Old Arguments

Do any Pac-Man games even have extensive music? I'm talking the older games of course that are more iconic like MegaMan had Wily's Castle, what does Pac have?
 
TheLegendOfCap said:
As long as he has no teeth at ALL and loses the fingers, and gets his boxing gloves back, I could care less which eyes he has.

I'm down for Pac-Man :) Just with those conditions. But Mario Kart GP Pac would be great.

Edit: Like this:

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I liked that design. Like his current but a little simpler with no fingers/teeth.
 
I love Pac-Man's new design, it's the show I don't really like.

Hope he looks something like this!

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Although, he might look more like this.

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SmithnCo said:
Also, for the love of god please don't let him talk.
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All of his taunts should be him singing "PAC IS BAAAACK!"

GreatCharleston said:
Do any Pac-Man games even have extensive music? I'm talking the older games of course that are more iconic like MegaMan had Wily's Castle, what does Pac have?
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I haven't played any of the World games, but I'm sure they must have some good music. Someone made this mock-up and it sounds....eh....
 
I think Pac-Man (and Ms. Pac-Man as an alt) would be great additions, but I hope they're not relying on him as their big E3 Smash announcement. It would be only slightly better than when they relied on Cranky Kong for VGX. He's too frequently requested to really be a big surprise and no single character (let alone one that isn't really relevant today) will excite anyone who isn't already excited.

Nothing will help paint Nintendo as the old, traditional, outdated way of doing video games more than propping up their big holiday release as the game where you can pit Mario against three other gaming mascots who have gotten less and less popular for 20 years straight.

I understand that Pac-Man, Sonic and Mega Man are still huge characters and a big part of gaming history, but Nintendo can't "win E3" with any amount of 80's or 90's mascots, so I really hope their E3 Smash blowout is more than just showing off characters, especially since the roster will already be 30+ by then.
 
OrangeGrayBlue said:
I think Pac-Man (and Ms. Pac-Man as an alt) would be great additions, but I hope they're not relying on him as their big E3 Smash announcement.

I understand that Pac-Man, Sonic and Mega Man are still huge characters and a big part of gaming history, but Nintendo can't "win E3" with any amount of 80's or 90's mascots, so I really hope their E3 Smash blowout is more than just showing off characters, especially since the roster will already be 30+ by then.
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It's a bit presumptuous to assume there's going to be a "Smash blowout" at E3. All we got for Brawl at E3 2007 was a 15 second video clip and a release date. I realize Nintendo needs all the help they can get right now, but Nintendo's stubborn and nonreactive, and they rarely do what's "expected." I think we'd be lucky to get a single newcomer.
 
Ryce said:
It's a bit presumptuous to assume there's going to be a "Smash blowout" at E3. All we got for Brawl at E3 2007 was a 15 second video clip and a release date. I realize Nintendo needs all the help they can get right now, but Nintendo's stubborn and nonreactive, and they rarely do what's "expected." I think we'd be lucky to get a single newcomer.
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I don't think it presumptions at all.

I think nintendo is asking for one from the dev team strait up. They need this.
 
A new Smash trailer is probably a given at E3... I don't think two reveals is unlikely. Little Mac, Mii, and Pac-Man would be awesome, even if they're all expected at this point.
 
Ryce said:
It's a bit presumptuous to assume there's going to be a "Smash blowout" at E3. All we got for Brawl at E3 2007 was a 15 second video clip and a release date. I realize Nintendo needs all the help they can get right now, but Nintendo's stubborn and nonreactive, and they rarely do what's "expected." I think we'd be lucky to get a single newcomer.
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Wasn't that the year where everything was really scaled back due to E3 changing hands or something? I know it's the year with one of the lowest attendances by a significant margin at least.
 
This E3 it will be formally announced that the Punch-Out!! ring is the last newcomer.
 
Pac-Man? Could go 50-50 imo. Can see him in, can see him not getting in at this point.

And I have a proposition for any brave soul. An avatar bet on Ridley's playable status. If he is playable, I win, if he isn't, you win. PM me if interested.
 
It's weird to think that, depending on how many characters actually end up being in the complete roster, we may already have half to more than half of the characters revealed. I don't think a 40-45 character roster is out of the question, though I am of course hoping for a number closer to 50.

The sense of development progress with this game has been so weird. We know it's been in development for 2-3 years now, but we saw nothing of it until last year's E3, and we still know almost nothing about it except for 22 of the characters in the roster, which may or may not be half or the majority of them. It's all just so weirdly vague!

Loco4Coco said:
What's with the sudden influx of PacMan talk?
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Most of us are pretty certain that he's going to be the next/final third-party character in the roster, though some of us are holding onto the possibility that Snake may return. I, personally, don't think he will.
 
MaverickHunterAsh said:
It's weird to think that, depending on how many characters actually end up being in the complete roster, we may already have half to more than half of the characters revealed. I don't think a 40-45 character roster is out of the question, though I am of course hoping for a number closer to 50.

The sense of development progress with this game has been so weird. We know it's been in development for 2-3 years now, but we saw nothing of it until last year's E3, and we still know almost nothing about it except for 22 of the characters in the roster, which may or may not half the majority of them. It's all just so weirdly vague!
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Since I already set myself with very low expectation so I expected myself to see 45 characters roster. The game haven't been in development for 2 years YET, so 2-3 years is pretty much incorrect. Here is my old post.


I would like to toss one quote here.

As Sakurai ended his talk, the crowd gave him a big round of applause. In the rush to get Sakurai off-stage, we overheard him being asked a question about the possibility of downloadable content for Brawl in the future. As we heard it, although Sakurai would have liked to do it, it was not possible due to the lack of hard drive on the Wii.
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Super Smash Bros Brawl Development Schedules

  • After E3 2005 (May 2005), Iwata asked Sakurai to be Director of Super Smash Bros. Brawl
  • Character Roster and Design document were finalized on July 7, 2005.
  • Development of Super Smash Bros. Brawl began somewhen during Oct 2005
  • First Super Smash Bros Brawl Trailer was revealed during E3 After Hours Press Conference on May 10, 2006.
  • Second Super Smash Bros Brawl Trailer was revealed at Nintendo World, which announced Fox as playable character
  • Super Smash Bros Dojo was launched on May 27, 2007
  • Sonic and Delay were announced on Oct 10, 2007
  • Release Date - Japan: Jan 31, 2008 and NA: March 9, 2008
  • Super Smash Bros Dojo ended on April 14, 2008

Informations:

  • Nintendo opened a new office in Tokyo just for Super Smash Bros Brawl production.
  • New office aka Sora, LTD was established in order to Sakurai to be freelancer. Sora, LTD only have two members, which is Sakurai and his assistant.
  • Nintendo and Sakurai enlisted several companies to helping them out with Super Smash Bros Brawl Development. Those following companies and members that joined the team to assist Sakurai; Game Arts, Monolith Soft, Paon, and several smash veteran staff members.
  • Game Arts is the main team for preliminary development stage
  • Hal Laboratory gave the teams all accesses to original materials and tools from the development of Super Smash Bros Melee.
  • About 100 members worked on the project full time.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS Development Schedule

  • Iwata announced Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS during Nintendo E3 2011 conference in order to attract new team members
  • During Feb 2012, Sakurai tweeted that, during his brainstorming, he had been looking over Super Smash Bros Dojo, and reflecting on the past game's development.
  • E3 2012 Nintendo Direct confirmed joint-project between Sora, LTD and Namco Bandai
  • During June 2012, Sakurai reported that the game's development was in its first steps.
  • During June 2012, They announced that Sakurai and Namco Bandai already completed a working prototype.
  • During Aug 2012, Sakurai stated that game system had been completed.
  • E3 2013 Nintendo Direct release a first trailer of Super Smash Bros 3DS and Wii U, which confirmed 9 veteran characters and 3 newcomers; Mario, Link, Pikachu, Kirby, Samus, Pit, Fox, Donkey Kong, Bowser, Villager, Wii Fit Trainer and Mega Man.
  • Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS website went up on June 13, 2013
  • Daily Image started on June 13, 2013.

Informations
  • Yoshito Higuchi and Keiki Kobayashi are team leaders for Development teams.
  • Sakurai expressed his interests that he intended to bring back old Nintendo characters for the games.
  • Feeling that the series had found its target audience and introducing gimmicks would hinder rather than help the brand, Sakurai explained that he was thinking of ways to introduce a new, different experience, while retaining the frantic gameplay from previous installments.
  • Tripping were removed from the game, and gameplay would be between Melee and Brawl

My takes on Super Smash Bros. Wii U and 3DS Schedule
  • Sakurai probably started on brainstorming phase in Jan 2012, and finalized his roster plan and design document in March 2012.
  • Namco Bandai and Sora, LTD probably started working on the games somwhen during April or May 2012, which would explain that they have completed prototype in their hands during June 2012.


If I made any mistakes or I forget to add something important then please let me know.
 
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