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Any particular reason why you're going with an SNRI next in that case?

Because my Doc suggested so? :P Hence me not really having that much faith in my Doc. I figure he's just trying to get the "basic" ones out of the way before he really has to think about what might fit my specific case.
 
Because my Doc suggested so? :P Hence me not really having that much faith in my Doc. I figure he's just trying to get the "basic" ones out of the way before he really has to think about what might fit my specific case.

Fair enough. Try to talk to him if you have ideas or reservations though. He may be willing to work with you.
 
Fair enough. Try to talk to him if you have ideas or reservations though. He may be willing to work with you.

Yeah I definitely will. I'll talk to him on Thursday when I'm supposed to start new meds about my own "research" I did. Then we'll see how much he really knows about the medication. If he doesn't know shit/doesn't acknowledge me, I might ask for a referral to a specialist.
 
I want to be dead. Every day is a new hell and it never gets better. Every time I think I can't hate myself more than I do, I seem to manage an even greater sense of self-loathing. I'm shit, worthless, and I don't know how much longer I can stand to feel like this.
 
I'm not satisfied today despite finishing homework and readings. I slack off too much and it irritates me. Later in the semester, I'm going to be writing essays. Also, I'm going to do programming in java and C. Even though I have a lot of time, I never use them correctly. It's like I'm fighting against time. I've always felt defeated by time. I know I should be moving forward and forget the past mistakes, it's just I regret being me. I regret the things I did that made the way I am today.
 
I don't really know. The idea that I don't know what they're going to say, or that I may say something wrong?



It's been years and years since I've visited a doctor.

The thing is is that you can't really say anything wrong. It's a personal thing so trying to make a certain impression is going to be more harmful than helpful. Also, it's always seemed less worrisome to talk to them about it since they're a stranger. They hold no major impact and if they make you feel uncomfortable or don't like talking to them you can stop talking to them and you'll never see them again or have some awkward encounter with them. It's almost like a separate place where you don't have to worry about anything, there's no real way for anything to "backfire" for lack of a better word.
 
Made the mistake of going on Facebook. I always end up looking at old exes. :| I have an SO, yet I still did it. Looking at where old high school friends are is equally depressing.
 
Made the mistake of going on Facebook. I always end up looking at old exes. :| I have an SO, yet I still did it. Looking at where old high school friends are is equally depressing.

It probably would be an easy place to dwell on things. But as a fine Kiwi fellow once told me, people are full of it. Which is definitely the case on Facebook. Things shared are very much cherry picked, as people are desperate to portray themselves as active and important. It is a case of weighing up your own pros and cons, if you think it does you more harm than good, get rid of it. I've not had mine for quite a while now, as my cons were considerably higher. Don't miss it at all. I never got the notion of needing to have it. I've been having my regular interactions just fine on other mediums.
 
It probably would be an easy place to dwell on things. But as a fine Kiwi fellow once told me, people are full of it. Which is definitely the case on Facebook. Things shared are very much cherry picked, as people are desperate to portray themselves as active and important. It is a case of weighing up your own pros and cons, if you think it does you more harm than good, get rid of it. I've not had mine for quite a while now, as my cons were considerably higher. Don't miss it at all. I never got the notion of needing to have it. I've been having my regular interactions just fine on other mediums.
I hardly use my account, it's pretty much just for family/appearances.
 
I still can't over how quickly I seem to be aging, it's incredibly disheartening.

Just over a year back people thought I was younger than my age, but now it's older.

I guess continued disappointment and lack of optimism does that to you.
 
I still can't over how quickly I seem to be aging, it's incredibly disheartening.

Just over a year back people thought I was younger than my age, but now it's older.

I guess continued disapointment and lack of optimism does that to you.
Has that just started in the last year?
 
I started reading Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy, my psychologist recommended it after I asked for a book to read. Some of the methods in here might be helpful for me, but there is some definite bullshit and I don't like the author's voice. There's a part where he transcribes a conversation with a patient whom thinks she is a bad mother. He goes on to convince her there is no such thing, even abusive ones. Labeling them bad is counterproductive in his view. I understand why it might not be a good for a professional to guilt an abusive parent by calling them bad, but for everyone else I would think it pragmatic to think of them that way. That part just rubbed me the wrong way.
 
So I've really been able to pull myself out of a recent rut, and while I still struggle with a lot of things, I'm really interested in fixing my lack of focus. I can't sit through whole movies anymore, and I can't enjoy simple things like I used to. If I'm watching a movie I'll find myself browsing through my phone or walking away. When I do get in a rut it's more a lack of motivation due to the idea of finality and being stuck in the past. Any helpful advice?
 
So I've really been able to pull myself out of a recent rut, and while I still struggle with a lot of things, I'm really interested in fixing my lack of focus. I can't sit through whole movies anymore, and I can't enjoy simple things like I used to. If I'm watching a movie I'll find myself browsing through my phone or walking away. When I do get in a rut it's more a lack of motivation due to the idea of finality and being stuck in the past. Any helpful advice?

Child-like mind = View things and situations with a child-like curiosity and mindset. Look for 5 things in your immediate area that you've never seen before. Focus on one of them. Find that novelty in your day to day task.

Meditation = Take the time to train your self how to observe your mind from a more objective viewpoint. Take the time to look at your thought float by like clouds. Or consider your thoughts, feelings, urges, and moods as if they were trains and you as if you were on the platform. Watch as the trains roll on by. Or, if you board a train, notice that you've been swept on the train, and depart to the very next platform.

STOP = Stop or pause. Take a breathe. Observe your thoughts. Proceed. This is how you can pull the tenets of mindfulness into your every day life and surrounds. You can STOP while you're brushing your teeth. STOP while you're eating. STOP while you're watching a movie. STOP while you're doing anything.

Finding Focus (Zen Habits)
Mindfulness Meditation Podcasts (MARC @ UCLA) (The classes labeled October 25, 2012 - Working with Thoughts and March 28, 2013 - Mindful Monkey, Happy Panda should be particularly helpful for you.)
And check out the meditation resource provided in the OP of this thread.
 
Child-like mind = View things and situations with a child-like curiosity and mindset. Look for 5 things in your immediate area that you've never seen before. Focus on one of them. Find that novelty in your day to day task.

Meditation = Take the time to train your self how to observe your mind from a more objective viewpoint. Take the time to look at your thought float by like clouds. Or consider your thoughts, feelings, urges, and moods as if they were trains and you as if you were on the platform. Watch as the trains roll on by. Or, if you board a train, notice that you've been swept on the train, and depart to the very next platform.

STOP = Stop or pause. Take a breathe. Observe your thoughts. Proceed. This is how you can pull the tenets of mindfulness into your every day life and surrounds. You can STOP while you're brushing your teeth. STOP while you're eating. STOP while you're watching a movie. STOP while you're doing anything.

Finding Focus (Zen Habits)
Mindfulness Meditation Podcasts (MARC @ UCLA) (The classes labeled October 25, 2012 - Working with Thoughts and March 28, 2013 - Mindful Monkey, Happy Panda should be particularly helpful for you.)
And check out the meditation resource provided in the OP of this thread.

Thanks man I've always been so interested in meditation, I believe it's called Vipassana? It really helped Rivers Cuomo and John Fruciante through some hard times and gather their focus. I'd also love to be able to focus more for Lucid dreaming :). Struggled with it as of late.
 
Child-like mind = View things and situations with a child-like curiosity and mindset. Look for 5 things in your immediate area that you've never seen before. Focus on one of them. Find that novelty in your day to day task.

Meditation = Take the time to train your self how to observe your mind from a more objective viewpoint. Take the time to look at your thought float by like clouds. Or consider your thoughts, feelings, urges, and moods as if they were trains and you as if you were on the platform. Watch as the trains roll on by. Or, if you board a train, notice that you've been swept on the train, and depart to the very next platform.

STOP = Stop or pause. Take a breathe. Observe your thoughts. Proceed. This is how you can pull the tenets of mindfulness into your every day life and surrounds. You can STOP while you're brushing your teeth. STOP while you're eating. STOP while you're watching a movie. STOP while you're doing anything.

Finding Focus (Zen Habits)
Mindfulness Meditation Podcasts (MARC @ UCLA) (The classes labeled October 25, 2012 - Working with Thoughts and March 28, 2013 - Mindful Monkey, Happy Panda should be particularly helpful for you.)
And check out the meditation resource provided in the OP of this thread.

Not sure what your thoughts are on this, but responding to ask if there are any medications you would recommend? I know it seems like an easy way out, but just looking for recommendations. What are people's thoughts on welbutrin?
 
Not sure what your thoughts are on this, but responding to ask if there are any medications you would recommend? I know it seems like an easy way out, but just looking for recommendations. What are people's thoughts on welbutrin?

Like everything, it depends on your situation. For me, Wellbutrin does nothing. Zero. No effect at all, good or bad. I feel like I'm not even taking medication. But then again, I haven't really found anything that makes me feel better. Luckily it goes in cycles for me. I'll be fine for months, so I get some temporarily relief, and then for a few weeks / months I just feel kinda crappy. I think I tried like 5 different meds, and nothing ever worked. /shrug
 
Thanks man I've always been so interested in meditation, I believe it's called Vipassana? It really helped Rivers Cuomo and John Fruciante through some hard times and gather their focus. I'd also love to be able to focus more for Lucid dreaming :). Struggled with it as of late.

If you need to help exploring even further down the meditation path in general, there's a well-sourced and resourced (though not so active) meditation OT here on GAF with plenty of GAF members that can knowledgeably take you down whatever path suits your situation the best.

Meditation |OT|

As far as medications are concerned, they can be helpful assists in anyone's journey to mental and emotional health and well-being, but I'll happily let others take the lead on that topic. There are beautiful ones here who are well versed on the ins and outs of treatment and have personal experience with side effects and outcomes and can lend a helping hand.

I'm having a really hard time.

This entire thread is an embodiment of a Bill Withers song. If you need a helping hand, the IRC chat is always open. And you can PM anyone in the PM list in the OP comfortable in the knowledge that they've been through some things themselves.

Or you can vent as openly as you need to right here. Whatever's your call.
 
Is anyone on quetiapine here? Just wondering if anyone has trouble getting off of it? I can't seem to sleep without it these days.
 
Quit all my meds cold turkey. My boss is going to shit when h sees the old me back again

Lamictal has been a great mood stabilizer, but the antipsychotics have only been problems, even the ones that did help. I had to stop seroquel because it ma gain 50 pound. Abilify makes me waaaaaaay too weepy and emotional. I was crying during regular conversations. Saphris had me sleepy and too close to straight up depression.

There's also the drugs don't rake care of the worst things. I still hear and see things intermittently.

I take this shit largely for my job. My manager knows a bit about my situation and he want's me as close to normal at work. He even gets ticked when I get facial tics, which happen in times of stress.
 
Why did you decide to quit cold turkey and not go the proper, less painful way?

Only way to do it as far as I'm concerned. If I were weaning off, i'd probably revisit a drug and find that at the moment, it ain't so bad, and then I'll keep taking it, and my pther meds will slowly but inevitably find their way back into my life.
 
Only way to do it as far as I'm concerned. If I were weaning off, i'd probably revisit a drug and find that at the moment, it ain't so bad, and then I'll keep taking it, and my pther meds will slowly but inevitably find their way back into my life.

Well, if you think you can do it and deal with the side-effects of cold-turkey, I wish you all the best.
 
Only way to do it as far as I'm concerned. If I were weaning off, i'd probably revisit a drug and find that at the moment, it ain't so bad, and then I'll keep taking it, and my pther meds will slowly but inevitably find their way back into my life.

How long have you been taking them? Hopefully not too long, because the withdrawal symptoms can be disastrous. I stopped taking all my meds without consulting with my doc years ago because I thought I felt better and didn't really need them anymore. Stupidest shit I've done in my entire life. I had to drop out of college because I just felt like total shit and didn't know what I was consciously doing half the time. The mood and anxiety disorders I was taking the meds for came back worse, and I'm still kinda recovering from it to this day.

I didn't think my withdrawal would last for more than a year. So yeah, you may want to speak with your doc first before cutting it off, just to be safe.
 
I've been on something or other (usually multiple things) for the better part of six years. I've quit several times before but generally come back a few months later, but I'm going to try to go beyond that this time.In the past 6th months or so they've said scary shit about revisiting my original diagnosis, which is fuck scary to me. I'm just sick of this world and I'm sick of not being myself anymore, for all I know getting worse could just be a side effect from taking too many prescriptions.
 
Thoughts on Venlafaxine and other similar meds? Also more Welbutrin stories if possible please.

I've been on it for about 6 months, then I had to stop. Not sure how it helped me, but that's different for everyone anyway. In this post I explained a bit about stopping and I got a few responses after that from other people in the thread. I got word that I could start using it again if I wanted to, but I never want to touch that stuff again. Getting off it was horrible. Being on it was somewhat ok, but because of the short half life it has, it's horrible stuff if you're not good at taking it extremely regularly.
 
Thoughts on Venlafaxine and other similar meds? Also more Welbutrin stories if possible please.
I was on Venlafaxine for several months. Topped out at 225 mg and found the side-effects unbearable, pushed me into fresh-feelings-of-death territory. Quit it cold turkey and was sick for a week, switched back to Escitalopram and so far it's treating me better.
 
I've been on it for about 6 months, then I had to stop. Not sure how it helped me, but that's different for everyone anyway. In this post I explained a bit about stopping and I got a few responses after that from other people in the thread. I got word that I could start using it again if I wanted to, but I never want to touch that stuff again. Getting off it was horrible. Being on it was somewhat ok, but because of the short half life it has, it's horrible stuff if you're not good at taking it extremely regularly.

I was on Venlafaxine for several months. Topped out at 225 mg and found the side-effects unbearable, pushed me into fresh-feelings-of-death territory. Quit it cold turkey and was sick for a week, switched back to Escitalopram and so far it's treating me better.

hearing all these bad stories about Venlafaxine just further strengthens my decision that the SNRI I wanna try is Dulexetine. It's also the only SNRI that's been investigated with respect to IBS because it's supposed to help with neuropatic pain.
 
Guys I can't afford rent next month and am suicidal already and financial stress is one of the biggest triggers for me. I can't go to the hospital because I would miss work from the job I just started. I went Sunday night and they gave me Ativan but that's doing nothing now. I'm almost convinced I'm gonna kill myself if something doesn't come through soon that reassures me that everything will be okay.
 
Guys I can't afford rent next month and am suicidal already and financial stress is one of the biggest triggers for me. I can't go to the hospital because I would miss work from the job I just started. I went Sunday night and they gave me Ativan but that's doing nothing now. I'm almost convinced I'm gonna kill myself if something doesn't come through soon that reassures me that everything will be okay.

This need not be a crisis situation.

What's your relationship with your apartment manager or landlord like? You may be able to get a reprieve if you need it. Check top see if there are any official policies regarding that.

You've looked into rental assistance programs as well? (http://www.rentassistance.us/ and hud.gov) There may be a government agency that can provide you with a short-term loan.

Are you a member of a local church out or community of faith? If you are, many have programs, charities, or procedures that can help out members and non-members in need.

Are you a member of a credit union? You may be able to get a short-term small loan from them. Essentially a low interest payday loan.
 
Guys I can't afford rent next month and am suicidal already and financial stress is one of the biggest triggers for me. I can't go to the hospital because I would miss work from the job I just started. I went Sunday night and they gave me Ativan but that's doing nothing now. I'm almost convinced I'm gonna kill myself if something doesn't come through soon that reassures me that everything will be okay.

How much money do you need.
 
I need like 200-300 dollars. I've already used up my one-time late payment fee waiver with my landlord when I was in between jobs last year. I'm not a member of any faith-based organizations and wouldn't feel right asking them for help because of that. I'm a member of a credit union that I have my car loan through so maybe I could talk to them about a small personal loan but then I don't know how I would pay that back.
 
I need like 200-300 dollars. I've already used up my one-time late payment fee waiver with my landlord when I was in between jobs last year. I'm not a member of any faith-based organizations and wouldn't feel right asking them for help because of that. I'm a member of a credit union that I have my car loan through so maybe I could talk to them about a small personal loan but then I don't know how I would pay that back.

PM me your paypal email.
 
hearing all these bad stories about Venlafaxine just further strengthens my decision that the SNRI I wanna try is Dulexetine. It's also the only SNRI that's been investigated with respect to IBS because it's supposed to help with neuropatic pain.

I had a bad reaction to Venlafaxine and it is HELL to get off of.
 
No matter what I do, anxiety and suicidal thoughts are always waiting right around the corner for me. Didn't look at any triggers or anything, yet I'm shaking and feeling completely vulnerable/miserable.
 
Flo, I can't begin to thank you. <3

I tried to write something, and put up some pictures on my tumblr.

She told me, “A lot of people deserve gifts from the heart.” And while I don't exactly feel much like one of those people all the time, I believe that with all my heart.

If there is one good thing that has come out of years of misery and despair, it's that I've gotten a little better at telling people how much I love them. I try very hard to let them know, because none of us hear it enough. That's the most important thing I've ever learned.

Thank you so much, Flo. It's a beautiful gift that arrived at exactly the time I needed it.
 
Tonight/this morning sucks.

As much as I try to pretend it doesn't bother me, losing my job so soon after being hired really is weighing on me. Especially after I thought I was really, truly giving my very best working there. Does my best really only equal being employed for a month before getting told my work "isn't on the level of the other interns." No specifics, just "you suck, now leave."

It mainly hurts because I don't know how to tell people. Now, I'm watching friends of mine get hired at the same place that let me go and I know I can't exactly hide it anymore. But I'm so afraid of letting people down. Moreover, I don't want to give people any reason to look down on me and start lecturing. I know I screwed up. I don't need anyone else to tell me.

But more than anything, this sucks because it's made me realize I have no real plan for my life. I've floated through all these years, just doing what everyone told me I should. My depression and self-esteem were so bad I never imagined much of a life for myself, and thus, never made any kind of plans or moves. And now I'm here with a degree that's for a field I no longer wish to be in and is useless otherwise, and a skillset that's pretty scattershot. I'm really not looking forward to another year of filling out job applications and getting rejected and most of all, being trapped in my house cause I have no money and nothing going on.

It just feels so pointless to try anymore. I'm never good enough, it seems.

I'm not an expert, but from were I am standing it seems like you focus a lot on this aspect of your life, and then you generalize ("everyone getting jobs") and magnify ("I'm never good enough). I am not calling you out, but do you see what I mean? I don't know were you live, but gettings jobs have been hard for a long time.
There might be good reasons for why you were laid off. They might have realized that they didn't need the extra workforce, maybe someone made a mistake and had to make an excuse to fire you due to their negligence. Maybe your boss just didn't felt you fitted in socially, maybe you got fired because someone was jealous of you. The point is, that there is a million different scenarios, and another way of looking at things is that it's better you got laid off now, than having worked in a bad enviornment for you, and/or the company. If the glove doesn't fit, it doesn't matter if you are wearing it 10 days or 10 years.
But does that make you wrong, or not good enough, or does it mean you were not good enough for that place? I hope you have friends, and family and past coworkers who will/would be straight with you, if you have some glaring character flaws that keep you from getting the success you desire.


But I think I can relate to your focus. Your area of your life that you magnify to other areas of your life. I just got seperated from girlfriend a month ago, and while we have seperated as friends with no drama, I miss her a lot, and now when I check facebook and what friends are doing it feels like everyone has a partner and I am going to die alone. I know rationally, that not more or less people are in relationships than before - But now I just notice the loss more. And it saddens me I don't have the love drug that I am so used to. It's a demon that whisper to us.
This hurt and pain we have right now is obligatory. Without it you are not worthy of landing that job you really want in the future, and without my heartbreak I am not worthy of keep looking for a cool chick in the love game. We can't pick up the nice sugary end of the stick without also getting the sour shitty smelling end of it as well. Ying and Yang baby. The question is - Are we gonna be strong enough in ourselves to keep pursing fortune and good times, and still have the power to accept the bad times that comes with it. Or will be struck down and paralyzed because it hurts too much now.
 
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