PlayStation Network Thread (Vita/PS3/PS4/PSP) | February 2014

I don't know where I was going with that... Persona is all about the waifu. It's not like there's too much else to it other than its tarot card undertones and it's Jungian philosophy overtones.
Having a waifu is fine. If people are going to share their opinions with the world, though, it'd be nice if it wasn't pages full of drivel like "Chie is objectively the best girl" and "That's not how you spell Rise" and shit like that.
 
As if Persona is anything but a game to pander to everything the Japanese are portrayed to want. It's because high school is the high point of their life and it coddles the player into easy mode relationships.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/8300-Sexual-Failing

Edit: That video explain things really well. I'll like to discuss about that if you want :)

Persona 3 and 4 are games whose objective is "feeling" you are the main character. That's why both P3 and P4 MC are kinda "neutral" (design wise, for example, you're "gray" while Chie is green, Yosuke is orange or Yukiko is red). Your character is probably "cool" and "handsome" because people want to be cool and handsome that's sure and you're right.

Still, It's a logical decision. It'd be weird (but funny in some way) that the MC was a socially awkward otaku that doesn't know how to speak with other people at all. I don't want to have "Mmm... / ... / *Run away* " (it'd be funny, though) as options when I'm doing a girl Social Link. That's probably a flaw in most games with decisions + romance. Other is probably simplification.
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That said, I hope everybody understand that most people here (at least me) are not seriously about the waifu wars. It's true that I felt more attached to her than the other girls during my playthrough, but in the end it's just a game. It doesn't matter how awesome it is or how much I liked.
 
Noticed there are two Personas 2 on sale now .. one is the PSX version known as Persona 2: Eternal Punishment and the other is the PSP version known as Persona 2: Innocent Sin.

Sorry if this has been asked, but what is the difference? Which is the 'definitive' edition? I am keen to buy this and Persona 3: Portable as I enjoyed Persona 4 (even just starting a few minutes).
 
Noticed there are two Personas 2 on sale now .. one is the PSX version known as Persona 2: Eternal Punishment and the other is the PSP version known as Persona 2: Innocent Sin.

Sorry if this has been asked, but what is the difference? Which is the 'definitive' edition? I am keen to buy this and Persona 3: Portable as I enjoyed Persona 4 (even just starting a few minutes).
They're a duology. Innocent Sin comes first, Eternal Punishment comes after.

Both fantastic games, but very different to Persona 3&4.
 
Edit: That video explain things really well. I'll like to discuss about that if you want :)

Persona 3 and 4 are games whose objective is "feeling" you are the main character. That's why both P3 and P4 MC are kinda "neutral" (design wise, for example, you're "gray" while Chie is green, Yosuke is orange or Yukiko is red). Your character is probably "cool" and "handsome" because people want to be cool and handsome that's sure and you're right.

Still, It's a logical decision. It'd be weird (but funny in some way) that the MC was a socially awkward otaku that doesn't know how to speak with other people at all. I don't want to have "Mmm... / ... / *Run away* " (it'd be funny, though) as options when I'm doing a girl Social Link. That's probably a flaw in most games with decisions + romance. Other is probably simplification.
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That said, I hope everybody understand that most people here (at least me) are not seriously about the waifu wars. It's true that I felt more attached to her than the other girls during my playthrough, but in the end it's just a game. It doesn't matter how awesome it is or how much I liked.
I like to think that the people who play that at least have some awareness that that's what's happening during the social links. It's literally impossible to make wrong decisions. You can say whatever stupid shit you want to them and if it's wrong, you just try again tomorrow. It's just as Jim says, the social links in the game are basically just big slot machines where you use time as your tokens, eventually getting to the end of it where their character progressions grind to an absolute halt and then you're done with them.
I will admit to wandering around the shopping center and chillax'n with Rise just cause. P4 does a much better job than P3 with this.
We can't do much more than go "Haha your choice is wrong because obviously Rise is the best girl" because there's not much to argue about. It's a fun, endless toying with, where nobody will ever win or get their feelings hurt.
Yes, but that makes her really mysterious and interesting character imo.
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Or it makes her shockingly underrepresented =]. She kinda loses her character after she gets her Persona.
Having a waifu is fine. If people are going to share their opinions with the world, though, it'd be nice if it wasn't pages full of drivel like "Chie is objectively the best girl" and "That's not how you spell Rise" and shit like that.
It's all in good jest. I would love for someone to actually get offended so everyone could bond together to effectively mock and simultaneously be creeped out by them.

To be honest there's not much to them than the concept that we all wish they existed irl. The Persona 4 cast is pretty vanilla when it comes to personal problems. P3 cast had some crazy shit going on.
 
I think I will just get a PSN card and buy:

Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 2: Innocent Sin
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 Portable

Are these good choices? I really want to play the Persona game on my Vita as I am frequently on the move, so FES is out of the question for me. Already have P4:G and thinking of getting the digital one so I can have everything downloaded digitally.
 
I think I will just get a PSN card and buy:

Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 2: Innocent Sin
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 Portable

Are these good choices? I really want to play the Persona game on my Vita as I am frequently on the move, so FES is out of the question for me. Already have P4:G and thinking of getting the digital one so I can have everything downloaded digitally.

All of them are good but 1 & 2 feel bit archaic
 
I think I will just get a PSN card and buy:

Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 2: Innocent Sin
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 Portable

Are these good choices?
Just as long as you know what you're getting into with P1/P2.
 
By the way guys, this thread is on track for 72 pages if not more seeing as how 2 mega Vita games come out soon.
 
My phone is so messed up, had to resort to Wake-Up Club on Vita for an alarm. Didn't realise that thing had trophies though, so time to get some cheap trophies just for getting up for work!
 
I think I will just get a PSN card and buy:

Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 2: Innocent Sin
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 Portable

Are these good choices? I really want to play the Persona game on my Vita as I am frequently on the move, so FES is out of the question for me. Already have P4:G and thinking of getting the digital one so I can have everything downloaded digitally.
They're all great games by their own rights, but as others said know what you're getting into with P1&2. Persona 1 especially, in my opinion, has not aged very well at all. If you're expecting them to be anything like 3&4 you'll be disappointed so keep that in mind when going into them.

Maybe check out some videos on YouTube if you're unsure.
 
I like to think that the people who play that at least have some awareness that that's what's happening during the social links. It's literally impossible to make wrong decisions. You can say whatever stupid shit you want to them and if it's wrong, you just try again tomorrow. It's just as Jim says, the social links in the game are basically just big slot machines where you use time as your tokens, eventually getting to the end of it where their character progressions grind to an absolute halt and then you're done with them.
I will admit to wandering around the shopping center and chillax'n with Rise just cause. P4 does a much better job than P3 with this.
We can't do much more than go "Haha your choice is wrong because obviously Rise is the best girl" because there's not much to argue about. It's a fun, endless toying with, where nobody will ever win or get their feelings hurt.

Yep, that's true. I think that I've only "reversed" one Social Link in Golden (maybe it always happens, like the Gourmet King in 3) and it was because I was really harsh with Ai (the rich girl). I tried to scold her because she treated somebody like he was crap and she got angry lol. Still, the prize for my mistake was a afternoon.

There really isn't that much deep in Social Links, yet they're pretty well done for what they are and you have the feeling you're interacting with those guys (at least during your first playthrough) even if decisions aren't always... decisive.

To be honest there's not much to them than the concept that we all wish they existed irl. The Persona 4 cast is pretty vanilla when it comes to personal problems. P3 cast had some crazy shit going on.

Well, they all are beliable characters and (with some differences) you can find people that suits that arquetype. Our interests probably are bounded (to some extent) to our personal tastes in real life. So in the end it's like discussing which stereotype you prefer. Which isn't bad, because P4 archetypes are general, not especially Japanese centric even if their circumstances are Japanese. The most "Japanese-only" archetype is probably Marie, due to her youreastupidyerkdiemotherfucker comments and her tsundere attitude. Outside that? You've probably find that you had friends during your high school that resemble them. Yosuke attitude usually reminds my one of my best friends, for example.
 
I think I will just get a PSN card and buy:

Shin Megami Tensei: Persona
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 2: Innocent Sin
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 Portable

Are these good choices? I really want to play the Persona game on my Vita as I am frequently on the move, so FES is out of the question for me. Already have P4:G and thinking of getting the digital one so I can have everything downloaded digitally.

I am saying it straight: Persona 1 is a terrible game. Do not purchase it.
 
Our interests probably are bounded (to some extent) to our personal tastes in real life. So in the end it's like discussing which stereotype you prefer. Which isn't bad, because P4 archetypes are general, not especially Japanese centric even if their circumstances are Japanese. The most "Japanese-only" archetype is probably Marie, due to her youreastupidyerkdiemotherfucker comments and her tsundere attitude. Outside that? You've probably find that you had friends during your high school that resemble them. Yosuke attitude usually reminds my one of my best friends, for example.

Of course :) But the persona waifu wars are always fun
 
P3P is a good choice, however I didnt really like the graphic novel concept of the main story events (the fact that you control a cursor and not your character).
 
That's why I played P3FES. If you're worried about the combat you could just play it on easy, and enjoy the social links & story

Indeed

First playthrough it's probably better FES. Once you've seen the cutscenes once (and played Answer) go with Portable.

Still, P3P was my first Persona game and I really liked it. I need to grab it on PSN...


And they put Atelier in sale when I don't have enough money to purchase anything (besides Toukiden). Good job...

That Hotline Miami price though...
 
And I just noticed Stick it to the Man there as well. Was going to pick it up at some point, and as I'll need to add at least £5 for Surge then I might as well get them both later on.
 
I'm baaaaack!

- Never call someone dense on this forum, as it is considered an offense (LOL).
- Never invest on discussions about ecchi games unless you're from the side that judges the game pedo bait.

Welp...

Fuckkkkkk me. Demoes exist for a reason. I just don't like this game. I just bought a game I don't like. It feels awful. I don't even think it's the framerate. I think it's just the game in general. The character models update like once every half second. That, or there's input lag. And the camera is wayyyyyy too zoomed out. The levels are too big. Goddamnit.

At least it effectively only cost me $5 since I get the +$3 from the PLAY Sale. Or, it only cost $2 if I apply the $6 I'm gonna get from the PLAY Sale to this, on the grounds that I wasn't going to do anything with that money... Yes.

The Play Sale offset the cost of this one game, and I got it on the cheap.

Thanks for the help VitaGAF.

If anyone wants to recommend me a game in the platformer realm to offset the taste, give it a shot. I may own most of them though.

Yes, I was surprised by the comments here about slowdowns and decided to give the demo a try. When you pass through the doors, the game slowdowns a bit. That's the slowdown the game have. Besides that, it plays exactly like the PC game as far as I can tell (except that the PC game don't have controller support for some reason, wtf!?). Finished the demo stages without many problems, there is a learning curve.

GAF hyperbole™ wins again.
 
I'm baaaaack!

- Never call someone dense on this forum, as it is considered an offense (LOL).
- Never invest on discussions about ecchi games unless you're from the side that judges the game pedo bait.

Welp...



Yes, I was surprised by the comments here about slowdowns and decided to give the demo a try. When you pass through the doors, the game slowdowns a bit. That's the slowdown the game have. Besides that, it plays exactly like the PC game as far as I can tell (except that the PC game don't have controller support for some reason, wtf!?). Finished the demo stages without many problems, there is a learning curve.

GAF hyperbole™ wins again.

thanks i needed this kind of commentary , without the hyperbole. Ill give it a try today and then will buy it if its any good.
 
First playthrough it's probably better FES. Once you've seen the cutscenes once (and played Answer) go with Portable.

Still, P3P was my first Persona game and I really liked it. I need to grab it on PSN...



And they put Atelier in sale when I don't have enough money to purchase anything (besides Toukiden). Good job...

That Hotline Miami price though...

Check your PM
 
Hey guys. I completely skipped the PS3 but am expecting my PS4 to arrive in about a week or so. That comes with a 1 month trial of PS+, right? Assuming I activate it immediately that currently gets me access to Don't Starve, Resogun, and Outlast, right?

Will they be adding a new, free game each month like Vita and ps3? I know the pool of games they can pull from is still quite small.
 
Hey guys. I completely skipped the PS3 but am expecting my PS4 to arrive in about a week or so. That comes with a 1 month trial of PS+, right? Assuming I activate it immediately that currently gets me access to Don't Starve, Resogun, and Outlast, right?

Will they be adding a new, free game each month like Vita and ps3? I know the pool of games they can pull from is still quite small.

Outlast replaced Don't Starve this month so you'll only get Resogun and that. I think it's safe to assume one free PS4 game each month. The value of PS+ really goes up exponentially if you have invested in the Sony ecosystem.
 
Hey guys. I completely skipped the PS3 but am expecting my PS4 to arrive in about a week or so. That comes with a 1 month trial of PS+, right? Assuming I activate it immediately that currently gets me access to Don't Starve, Resogun, and Outlast, right?

Will they be adding a new, free game each month like Vita and ps3? I know the pool of games they can pull from is still quite small.
Other than that Outlast isn't up there right now (will go up with the store update later), that's all correct. PS4 additions are likely to be smaller titles for a while, but they've been pretty damn good so far!

Outlast replaced Don't Starve this month so you'll only get Resogun and that. I think it's safe to assume one free PS4 game each month. The value of PS+ really goes up exponentially if you have invested in the Sony ecosystem.
Good point! Forgot that Don't Starve will be leaving. See if you can get a 1 month trial and activate it quickly if you want to get both that and Outlast.
 
thanks i needed this kind of commentary , without the hyperbole. Ill give it a try today and then will buy it if its any good.

I recommend you to try the demo. The character is a bit floaty, so you probably feel strange with it for a while, until you get the hang of it. I don't have the full game yet.

Now, the sound thing sounds like a bug, even though I can't reproduce it. Or the gray thing that Takao got... A patch for this game is certain.
 
Thanks for the education, guys! I felt like an asshole paying for Live for all that time, but PS+ seems like an actual great deal so I'm looking forward to making the investment.
 
Why be satisfied with a single waifu?
#teamharem
#teammaximizeallthesociallinksandthenkisseveryone (loading the save before Valentine's Day)
#teammarie
#tsundereloveforthewin

Definitely not for me, then. Thanks guys.
It's not a visual novel, it's more like a mix of ace attorney with a 999/VLR like setting/story + some minigames.

PlayStation Mobile Update:

Kingdom Three Musketeers - $7.99 / ¥800 / £6.49
Sola Calendar - $0.49 / ¥50 / £0.40
Sola Disk - $2.79 / ¥275 / £2.19
Sola Timer - $0.49 / ¥50 / £0.40
Do they know that in Italian "sola" is a slang way to say "fraud"? lol

Kenshiro and Raoh are in J Stars Victory.

All GOTY's are already dead.
Too bad it won't come here :(

New PSM game on the works , Out of Mind spiritual successor , and i beleive its gonna be awesome already.
Check it out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK5RzH_C_Xw
It looks like a mix of Life of a Pixel and Super Meat Boy

I need to save money for Daganronpa! :(
 
I'm baaaaack!

- Never call someone dense on this forum, as it is considered an offense (LOL).
- Never invest on discussions about ecchi games unless you're from the side that judges the game pedo bait.

Welp...



Yes, I was surprised by the comments here about slowdowns and decided to give the demo a try. When you pass through the doors, the game slowdowns a bit. That's the slowdown the game have. Besides that, it plays exactly like the PC game as far as I can tell (except that the PC game don't have controller support for some reason, wtf!?). Finished the demo stages without many problems, there is a learning curve.

GAF hyperbole™ wins again.

I wouldn't call it hyperbole. There is definitely slowdown on some stages. Not all, though. It's not unplayable but it's noticeable enough to be annoying.

There's one in the Lab area that was dipping in the low teens at the start but seemed to smooth out later on. Just running around in the City hub has frame stutter too. I'm not sure what causes it, one level can be completely fine and the next can have sudden slowdown in the middle.
 
Well, I guess I am in the minority here but I don't really like p4g very much. I don't care for the high school setting, the dungeons are kind of bland and the persona fusion puts me to sleep.

I just hate collecting, leveling, fusing, optimizing, whatever monsters. I prefer to start with one character and just continually grow them, like in Ys Oath, or Demons Souls.

Does anyone else feel the same way?
 
Played Persona 3 when it first came out. I'm debating between FES or P3P for the Vita. I think it's time to jump on Arena with that ultimate pack however.
 
I wouldn't call it hyperbole. There is definitely slowdown on some stages. Not all, though. It's not unplayable but it's noticeable enough to be annoying.

There's one in the Lab area that was dipping in the low teens at the start but seemed to smooth out later on. Just running around in the City hub has frame stutter too. I'm not sure what causes it, one level can be completely fine and the next can have sudden slowdown in the middle.

I didn't noticed at all, on the gameplay. But I'm not anal with framerate or resolution, so there's that. I finished Dark Souls on PC without using the DS Mod fix and never had a problem with the game at all, loved it.

But I really recommend people to try for themselves instead of listening to opinions here. They shouldn't be the determining factor to not buy games, otherwise, no one would buy anything here.
 
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