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Following a somewhat cryptic message from Larian's Swen.
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Hasbro/Wizards of the Coast Preventing Larian From Porting Baldurs Gate 3 to Switch 2 - NatetheHate
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Not gay enough for WOTC anymore?
mayham2199
Member
Honestly not impossible. Very weird that Wizards of the coast would want to block this. Why? Unless the contract they have with Larian doesn't allow them to make anymore money from ports I don't see why.
blacktout
Member
Reading between the lines, it sounds like Larian's growing fame has made them more expensive and Hasbro doesn't want to pay the bill.
Too bad, because the two WotC games they showed at TGA looked like absolute dogshit. You'd think the lesson that they would have learned from BG3's success is that working with talented developers pays off in the long run even if the initial costs are higher.
Too bad, because the two WotC games they showed at TGA looked like absolute dogshit. You'd think the lesson that they would have learned from BG3's success is that working with talented developers pays off in the long run even if the initial costs are higher.
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nowhat
Member
I think you may be onto something, and not just with mods but the base game in itself. Nintendo is (in)famously prudish, at least outside the junk that fills eShop. The Reddit AMA screenshot doesn't mention WotC - unless there some more info later in the discussion, the WotC connection seems to be an interpretation by "Nate".
(edit: not that WotC wouldn't be a difficult company to deal with, that is common knowledge)
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Zacfoldor
Gold Member
I think Larian and WotC just broke up and they are pissed at each other so any kind of working together is off the table, including permission slips for ports.
I'm so glad Larian got away from WotC before it was too late and they sucked them down with them.
That C don't stand for Coast.
I'm so glad Larian got away from WotC before it was too late and they sucked them down with them.
That C don't stand for Coast.
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azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Zacfoldor
Gold Member
bender
What time is it?
BG3 was on PlayStation who are typically more stringent than Nintendo(see the edits to Lisa on Switch/PS4), so it probably isn't a matter of censorship.
nowhat
Member
I'm not talking about skimpy clothing. I'm talking about bare tits, ass and all other assorted junk. Which were very much intact on PS5.
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The_hunter
Member
While it has less power draw than a series s, DLSS is a great technology that would allow decent image quality.
It runs on a steamdeck, so it should be viable to get it on switch 2. Although Nintendo might require a certain baseline performance to get certified.
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bender
What time is it?
I know what you are talking about and my point stands, Sony is typically more aggressive with their censorship these days, thus if it was in tact on PS5, it's probably not Nintendo requiring the game be censored that is holding back a port.
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Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
Statement from WotC(2024)
Statement from Swen Vincke(2024)
But yes, NateTheHate, let's make shit up about the two having an unhealthy relationship.
Occam's razor: WotC is cheap. Always has been. They're also annoyingly opportunistic (just look at the 500 new random MTG collabs from the last 6 months alone) so as soon as sales for Switch 2 is where they're happy with, they'll pay someone to port the game over.
Hasbro/WotC isn't stopping Larian from porting the game out of spite. They're just not offering to pay Larian to port the game because in their eyes, it's probably not worth the investment just yet.
Statement from Swen Vincke(2024)
But yes, NateTheHate, let's make shit up about the two having an unhealthy relationship.
Occam's razor: WotC is cheap. Always has been. They're also annoyingly opportunistic (just look at the 500 new random MTG collabs from the last 6 months alone) so as soon as sales for Switch 2 is where they're happy with, they'll pay someone to port the game over.
Hasbro/WotC isn't stopping Larian from porting the game out of spite. They're just not offering to pay Larian to port the game because in their eyes, it's probably not worth the investment just yet.
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Angry_Megalodon
Member
WotC are filled with woke lunatics, it was a question of time they screwd things up. I will laugh when the next Baldur's Gate bombs epicly.
Chukhopops
Member
Well fuck you Hasbro then, would have been a perfect game for S2. Game runs mostly fine on Steam Deck but the higher resolution would be welcome.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
I'm one of the 3 people on the planet that have not yet played this game but own it.
I loaded it up on my Ally X, but can't work up the gumption to actually start the game.
I loaded it up on my Ally X, but can't work up the gumption to actually start the game.
Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
Hasbro/WOTC are both retarded
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
That is true
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
I don't think so. BG3 is very CPU-heavy game, I just don't see how Switch 2 will handle Act 3.
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phant0m
Member
Dunno if you've checked lately, but every week there's new Hentai shovelware on Switch eShop
highly doubt this has anything to do with Nintendo's content moderation
blacktout
Member
Cyberpunk has all of the above, without mods, and it was a launch title for the Switch 2.
What's more, CDPR said that the port was a direct request from Nintendo.
Calverz
Member
Dude there's switch games that can be played with one hand….dont think thats the issue.
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videogamedude
Member
i just custom designed my cock in cyberpunk on switch2
I can still see cock and tits on cyberpunk.
nowhat
Member
Yeah, you're not the first to reply this. To all of you, I stand corrected, mea culpa and all that. May I raise a toast - here's to cock and tits!
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Diseased Yak
Gold Member
Maybe Nintendo are asking for them to rename it "Baldur's Hentai Gate 3" to be more in line with eshop guidelines.
Braag
Member
WotC hired the Dragon Age Veilguard director Corinne Busche to direct a new AAA game for them, many speculate it's BG4. If it ends up being BG4 then the odds are stacked against it.
Durin
Member
If the relationship was that great for both parties, they'd keep making stuff together. Neither of these companies is going to publicly trash the other, unless one of them fucked the other over serious.
Either way, I'm glad Larian is just going ahead with their own games, they don't need anyone. I love Baldur's Gate 1-2, but that IP was barely known by anyone outside a small hardcore community, and there was no prestige around Wizards of the Coast as a brand in video games.
Larian made BG3 a hit because they know how to make good RPG video games, which is why I have no faith Hasbro/WotC replicate that success with other random devs.
Either way, I'm glad Larian is just going ahead with their own games, they don't need anyone. I love Baldur's Gate 1-2, but that IP was barely known by anyone outside a small hardcore community, and there was no prestige around Wizards of the Coast as a brand in video games.
Larian made BG3 a hit because they know how to make good RPG video games, which is why I have no faith Hasbro/WotC replicate that success with other random devs.
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Baemono
Member
But it runs on Steam Deck, albeit without the split-screen. I have like 106 hours on it.
Deerock71
Very Poor Hoice of Wor
You completely refute your first statement IN THIS SENTENCE with your second statement. I'll just agree with the second part; Nintendo is not, at this point, (in)famously prudish.
SD cpu is much better then switch 2.
kazuyamishima
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Hero_Select
Member
Doesn't really stop ports from running better on Switch 2.
Look at Cyberpunk, Star Wars Outlaws, Assassins Creed Shadows and Final Fantasy 7 Remake as far as the demo goes.
Baemono
Member
And so is the Series S CPU compared to PS5. But we know how things turned out
Cyberpunkd
Member
Yes, but let's not pretend it will not run at least decently on Switch 2. Rogue Trader is a similar game that is quite heavy and that has no problem being released on Switch 2. The difficulty here is not hardware. I would guess WotC probably wanted Larian to make BG4 and they said no, so now Hasbro is salty.
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Rogue Trades is a great game but technically it's almost canon-friendly Mechanicus thing, it's a modest Unity game without sudden performance spikes.
People on this board don't understand how CPU-heavy Act 3 is, even after five optimization passes. Especially since it's supports split-screen. They can potato-mod the game in theory, but it will impact not the visuals, but the systems and interactive NPC count. In short, too much code refactoring for non-essential platform to even cosider this idea. Main platform for Larian was always PC and it will always dictate the minimum ceiling.
These don't run better on switch 2 though. except for star wars, which is had custom assets and heavy NPC culling on switch 2. for reference based on bench marks from DF even ps4 pro is running cyberpunk much better in CPU demanding areas.
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They are basically the same cpu, so not understanding your point.
Hero_Select
Member
The guy you posted also in the comments said SD looks much sharper and had to correct himself in the comments in AC: shadows. look at the combat section SD is stable 30fps while switch 2 is falling to 25 fps in docked mode. aside from that SD has higher settings in AC shadows. Red dead is running at much higher resolution then switch 2 so i'm not sure what that has to be with cpu. its 800p vs 540p, it can run 90fps on SD. aside from that so cyberpunk runs better, sparkling 0, FF remake, damon x, mine craft on SD, so many games get a better fps in SD.
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Hero_Select
Member
That second video is comparing Switch 2 to PS5 so I'm not sure what you're trying to say there.
Clearly these ports are often close enough anyway to be comparable with games sometimes running better in one vs the other. I don't see why this would mean that Switch 2 can't run Balder's Gate 3.
It comparing the ps5 but it shows the fps of the switch 2 version in the burning village combat area and clearly SD is clearly doing much better in the other video with the same area. also it depends on the game some have a pretty big fps advantage on SD like phantom liberty runs much better on SD.
Remember that larian basically had to a custom port for the game to work on SD.