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Ridge Racer - PS5 vs. PC Emulator (Duckstation) vs. Turbo Mode Version | Side by Side
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I seen that it was coming about a week or so ago but yeah if you blink you will miss the news of classic releases nowadays.
bender
What time is it?
PS+ UI needs a redesign or at least be more consistent with what is shown.
MrTroubleMaker
Member
Duckstation is a beast.
You don't have to have PS+ to play the classes you can also buy them but the days of weekly PSN & Xbox Live threads kept us more informed about releases
bender
What time is it?
Being able to purchase some classics has nothing to do with my point. It's often a chore to seek out new classics or trials offerings in the PS+ App.
ReBurn
Gold Member
The PS app sucks balls when it comes to finding stuff. I usually end up starting a remote play session to my PS5 to find what I'm looking for.
bender
What time is it?
The PS5 app is what I was talking about, but I can only imagine what a mobile app would be like.
crazyriddler
Member
Yep, I'll never understand that desire to be so conservative when emulating classic PSX or PS2 games. Old 3D games don't look good on modern screens unless they're rendered in HD (preferably with downsampling) or at least have a good CRT filter.
My point was that the online community did a better job of keeping us informed of releases when there was a weekly schedule for releases .
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
It's open source. They could just use it.
The actual arcade version is also available.
yurinka
Member
The arcade version of the game is also emulated in PS4 (Arcade Archives Ridge Racer), PS5 (Arcade Archives 2 Ridge Racer) and PC (different emulators like MAME).
There's also the PSP's Ridge Racer 2 emulated for PS4 & PS5 (like the first PSP Ridge Racer this games includes most games, tracks and songs of most titles in the series).
And there's also Ridge Racer Type 4 for PS4 & PS5.
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MayauMiao
Member
They won't as they can't have any control over it.
Yeah the Arcade Archives & other ways of playing old games on the newer consoles seems to be overlooked but they're quick fun.
These memes killed a great seriesHow the fuck have we had this many posts and not one
ReBurn
Gold Member
I bought it when it released but it isn't as fun as the PS1 version to me.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Duckstation (and Beetle) having PGXP gives them an instant advantage over the official emulator.
Dirk Benedict
Gold Member
No lies detected. This thing is my preferable way to play PS1 games. If you want classic graphics, you can have that, too. It really makes games like Xenogears look so good and worth another full playthrough, just to experience that soft Remaster feel.
Just because something is "open source" doesn't mean it doesn't have a license.
The license on duckstation isn't GPLv3 anymore it's Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0
On the comparison they look the same to me. Didn't know this had released on PS5. will check it out.
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Now we just need Rage Racer and an AA port of Rave Racer.
Yeah, I'm surprised they didn't implement this on Sony's official emulator. Really makes a difference with upscaled titles.
Ellis
Member
DuckStation has a down sampling option which would be welcome on the PS5 emulator as it can help without PGXP (combined is even better). The higher the resolution, the more prominent it is.
Does the Sony PS1 emulator have a lot of input latency? I remember the one on PS3 did and that ruined most games. The PSP emulator for PS1 was much better than the PS3 one.
The series went downhill after Rage. I would love a modern release of that game with true 60fps.
Does the Sony PS1 emulator have a lot of input latency? I remember the one on PS3 did and that ruined most games. The PSP emulator for PS1 was much better than the PS3 one.
The series went downhill after Rage. I would love a modern release of that game with true 60fps.
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yurinka
Member
Don't forget Ridge Racer 2 (arcade) and the first Ridge Racer for PSP.
Very likely because emulators are supposed to replicate the original hardware and games as they were, which didn't include these extra features added by some PC emulators.
Something that added a lot of latency were the LCD tvs available back in the PS3 days compared to the CRT tvs we had in the PS1 days.
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Radical_3d
Member
Can I buy this or is this another BS walled behind a subscription?
That's interesting. Why do you think that is?
Radical_3d
Member
Fake
Member
Not from what I remember, is just a mediocre emulator, but with a advanced layer to rewind and save state.
I remember the company behind the PS5 emulator being pride of their job, until digital foundry look at their emulator and since then they even remove the playstation blog from their page.
Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
Well, that and having all games available immediately rather than the fucking glacial pace Sony is adding them.
spookyfish
Gold Member
Didn't they use it for the PS Classic? Or am I mis-remembering?
AGRacing
Member
FINALLY.
***EDIT
Why doesn't Sony let you apply a CRT filter that they engineer to look like a Bravia / Trinitron from that era? Give it a cool name like "Bravia '94" or "WEGA™ CRT Mode"?
The fun and joy of this brand has been completely sucked out of the room if you ask me. They're too busy trying to be fucking edgy.
***
Now all 3 PS1 Wipeout games, please.
No I don't give a flying fuck what the music licensing costs. Pay it and license music properly from now on.
***EDIT
Why doesn't Sony let you apply a CRT filter that they engineer to look like a Bravia / Trinitron from that era? Give it a cool name like "Bravia '94" or "WEGA™ CRT Mode"?
The fun and joy of this brand has been completely sucked out of the room if you ask me. They're too busy trying to be fucking edgy.
***
Now all 3 PS1 Wipeout games, please.
No I don't give a flying fuck what the music licensing costs. Pay it and license music properly from now on.
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Lionel Richie
Member
I'm not sure they could sell a game running it.
Holammer
Member
Personally I don't have enough nostalgia to play the old PS1 era Ridge Racer games.
But Ridge Racer 2 PSP? I still play it regularly. It holds up and people whip it into shape with HD texture packs. This one is 2.9GB! That's the kind of dedication you seldom see from big studios.
cvetudes.com
But Ridge Racer 2 PSP? I still play it regularly. It holds up and people whip it into shape with HD texture packs. This one is 2.9GB! That's the kind of dedication you seldom see from big studios.
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SkylineRKR
Member
Played both back to back on PS5. Quite surreal.
Arcade has better framerate, handling and is harder to beat (the 4 stages) but its also quite barren.
Psx version is 30fps, but has a dozen of cars if you win galaga. It also has Chase cam. And its far easier (normal stages). I made a ton of fuck ups because drifting is altered on psx but won all races easily. Extra is hard though.
Arcade plays better, idk what they did with drift on psx but its far tougher to control there. Despite all that i probably prefer the PSX version. Its a better all around package. And it has the Devil car too.
Arcade has better framerate, handling and is harder to beat (the 4 stages) but its also quite barren.
Psx version is 30fps, but has a dozen of cars if you win galaga. It also has Chase cam. And its far easier (normal stages). I made a ton of fuck ups because drifting is altered on psx but won all races easily. Extra is hard though.
Arcade plays better, idk what they did with drift on psx but its far tougher to control there. Despite all that i probably prefer the PSX version. Its a better all around package. And it has the Devil car too.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Problem with the Sony Classic is while they do output at higher resolutions Sony is committed to have them look exactly the same, the Emulator could easily fix warped textures and texture filtering but that's not have they originally was.
Be interesting to see Ridge Racer V and pray for Rage Racer.
Be interesting to see Ridge Racer V and pray for Rage Racer.
YCoCg
Member
It wasn't Duckstation, but it was another emulator, PSX ReARMED, and it ran rough, when it was hacked people could get better performance by installing RetroArch on it and emulating PS1 games that way.
MrCunningham
Member
The 'Turbo Mode' was bundled with Ridge Racer Type 4, and was a showcase of how well Namco knew the PS1 hardware four years after releasing the original Ridge Racer in 1994. Turbo Mode ran at 60fps on the OG Playstation, added gouraud shading to everything and I think Namco even bumped up the draw distance somewhat. It was an incredible demo that showed how much closer Namco could get to the original arcade game. It was an awesome bonus too.
The PS4/ PS5 PSN version is just the original game, that looks like it was bumped up to 60fps. Though Duckstation applies texture correction to Turbo Mode, which gives everything a much more solid look. While the PSN emulation tries to keep it 'old school'.
hard to find actual footage of Turbo Mode running on real hardware:
Fess
Member
Oh the memories! I still have the JogCon I got with that, made it such an unique experience, can still remember how that felt. Actually was the only way I played Type 4, no idea how it is on normal controllers.
nkarafo
Member
Personally I don't have enough nostalgia to play the old PS1 era Ridge Racer games.
But Ridge Racer 2 PSP? I still play it regularly. It holds up and people whip it into shape with HD texture packs. This one is 2.9GB! That's the kind of dedication you seldom see from big studios.
RIDGE RACERS 2 HD TEXTURE PACK
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Visually yes, but i hope there's an option to turn off the voice because this is one of the most annoying i have ever heard.
Ps1 emulator is totally garbage on ps5 and very basic eh. Fortunately Tomb Raider Anniversary show impressive stuff although we are talking of ps2 emulation there. Anyway they should really find a way to fix the warping texture side effect of the psx because this shit is really annoying. Duckstation prove it's feasible.
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SkylineRKR
Member
The hi spec demo of RR1 was amazing but was reduced to 1v1 trials. Impressive though.
AeonGaidenRaiden
Member
Personally I don't have enough nostalgia to play the old PS1 era Ridge Racer games.
But Ridge Racer 2 PSP? I still play it regularly. It holds up and people whip it into shape with HD texture packs. This one is 2.9GB! That's the kind of dedication you seldom see from big studios.
RIDGE RACERS 2 HD TEXTURE PACK
RIDGE RACER HD 2 , RIDGE, RACER , Ridge, Racer, 2 , PSP,PPSSPP, psp , ppsspp , emulator ,emulateur, namco, bandai, rave, RAVE, R4, Rtype4, R Type4, Reiko, Nagase
Damn I never knew there was a part 2. I remember buying the PSP day one. I got Ridge Racer and Lumines to go with it.