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20 years later FF12 is still amazing - happy anniversary!

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Today marks the 20th anniversary of one of my favourite instalments in the Final Fantasy series. FF12 was released on March 16th 2006. I can't believe it has already been 20 years, and I still remember the first day I booted this up. I still think there hasn't been a release in the series since that has a better world design, art direction, dungeons or a more interesting combat system.

Happy birthday FF12! I love you always!!

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It's a GREAT game with a horrible cast (seriously, you can replace everyone from the team with sponges and the story would be basically the same).

And, it baffles me... the villan plan worked!
 
It's a GREAT game with a horrible cast (seriously, you can replace everyone from the team with sponges and the story would be basically the same).

And, it baffles me... the villan plan worked!
Vayne, Cid, and Venat had the right motives. It's a shame their plan involved some light genocide along the way.

Love this game. Flaws and all.
 
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Played this when it launched but only finished it a year or so ago (I take my time what can I say). Other than the end feeling abrupt, I think it's great.
 
This game ages like a fine wine.

Played it when I was around 15-16 and it all went over my head and I felt nothing for it really.

Then revisted it again in my 20s and appreciated it more but didn't complete it.

Then I got the Zodiac remaster in my 30s and couldn't put it down and now can see how ahead of its time this game was.

I love the writing, the characters and the voice acting.



The soundtrack is filled with many beautiful, charming and epic pieces.



The world feels alive and the art direction is superb.
 
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Still probably the last mainline FF game I truly loved.

Obviously would've been improved if Balthier was the main character, but they did improve the already good license board with later versions.

Enjoyed getting to automate out grunt work parts of RPG party management as well.
 
i finish once in the HD, back in the PS2 era, i progress until near end, and because of something, i forgot to finish in PS2 version.
again, this is my fave FF other than IX and VI. back in the PS2 era, I cannot look into other RPG because of this game set the bar too high.
the world was felt so alive and the lore is amazing. the graphic at the time is the best, and also I like the artstyle. the best PS2 RPG back then for me.

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the cities and the setting is make me wants to live there
 
I love this game. It's my favorite of the post-PS1 Final Fantasy games (Zodiac Age version specifically)

It's so nice to have characters who talk + act like grown adults with functioning brains instead of yappy shounen anime tropes.

Even Vaan grew on me as the protagonist. He has a convincing motivation to fight the empire. And he had the balls to sneak in to the palace and steal a priceless treasure out from under Vayne's nose, so it made sense why Balthier would take him along. He was OK as the eyes and ears of the player. Worst thing about him is he looks like a bitch.
 
Great Final Fantasy. I loved the mid-late game portion where you can just wander all over the fucking place and get into all kinds of unexpected scrapes and surprises.

My two whines about FF12 are the License Board--I promise to god that no one on earth wants to spend skill points to unlock the ability to wear some mid-tier hat--and the limp ending. Vayne & Venat represented a really nuanced and interesting pair of antagonists...and they then just threw that all out the window and merged them into Final Fantasy Broly so we could have a big boss fight. Just a weird ass swerve.

Still, I think the whole game is great aside from those two things.
 
It was good and fun to play but I couldn't tell you what the story was about even though I've played it 3 times , probably the weakest aspect of the game . One thing I do like is that summons isn't a central theme of the game , like 7 they're there as a game mechanic but isn't really a part of the story .
 
I often see tons of hate for Vaan, but I personally really like that you play this as a point-of-view character.. its so unique. Pretty much every jrpg goes for the chosen-one trope which just gets old.
In other Jrpgs it feels like you are the centre of the universe. In this one it feels like you this tiny part in this huge world. It makes it feel way more real to me.
 
This is one that I've wanted to revisit for a long time, and I probably will once the inevitable GOG re-release is out in the next couple of months. I never played the Zodiac version.

Anyway, FFXII is a particularly important FF game for me. I played it when it first came out, and I liked it but didn't love it. That changed. Several years later, I was in law school and it was the last week of winter break, which is when they had all the first-year students come back a week early for career week where you have a buncha lawyers talk at you about how to get a job and what the future looks like for you. I went to the first day of that, was super depressed by how fucking abysmal it all sounded, and then I came back to my apartment and decided at random to throw FFXII in the PS2 and give it another shot. I fucking loved it. For whatever reason, it suddenly just clicked. I blew off the rest of career week and stayed in my apartment playing the game, and couldn't have been happier. At the end of all that, I decided I was going to work in video games. And I did.

So, to say the game was life changing for me isn't an overstatement.
 
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One of the best FF's gameplay wise. And the music is off the charts. Phon Coast anyone?

Loved the gambit systems and how they can be customized. The best way I describe it is that it's the closest thing to letting the AI drive your mates I've seen. Especially without having to control them. Or you can play ATB and do it old school.

The customization of your experience often gets overlooked.
 
Sounds like heaven. I hope you had some Doritos as well.
This was right before that whole thing came along, but there was a BK next door. Met some nice and some strange people. Back when you already had a killer year with Xenosaga 3, Valkyrie Profile 2, and etc on PS2. That was probably the last Final Fantasy I truly enjoyed. Sure XIII graphically looked amazing, but it was such a linear game. XVI tried adding hunts, but they were so boring compared to the hunts in XII. I'd take a smaller, condensed maps than large scale like XV or XVI. Maybe it was the director, but after XII was the beginning of the end. VIIR echoing the past ideas at Square were far superior than the new ones.
 
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This was actually the first Final Fantasy game, not counting 11 as it's an MMO, that I didn't finish. And it was entirely down to the inverted camera controls and the lack of option to change it. It wound up being a turning point for me in which my love for Final Fantasy and Square slowly eroded away.

On the plus side, Fran is a top tier bunny girl.
 
This was actually the first Final Fantasy game, not counting 11 as it's an MMO, that I didn't finish. And it was entirely down to the inverted camera controls and the lack of option to change it. It wound up being a turning point for me in which my love for Final Fantasy and Square slowly eroded away.

On the plus side, Fran is a top tier bunny girl.
Do the remasters have the option to change that? I coped with but hate inverted controls unless it's flying airplaines.
 
This was actually the first Final Fantasy game, not counting 11 as it's an MMO, that I didn't finish. And it was entirely down to the inverted camera controls and the lack of option to change it. It wound up being a turning point for me in which my love for Final Fantasy and Square slowly eroded away.

On the plus side, Fran is a top tier bunny girl.
I recently booted it up to mess around with the retrotink 4K settings, and the invert camera look controls were completely jarring. I have no idea how I spent hundreds of hours playing like that back in the day. So I feel your pain.
 
I finally forced myself to play it. Not my favorite by a long shot. I probably liked 15 and 16 more. Twenty dang years though. Ouch.
 
FF XII was the first mid FF game. Mostly downhill since then. Rebirth is the best FF game since X-2 and that's a remake. I'd take Lightning Returns and FFXIII-2 over XII.
 
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