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[L Thammy]

Isn't pioneer really offensive in this context? In what sense is she a pioneer? There were clearly people living here. She is just colonizing this specific area of the Hamptons, the whitest place in the tri state area, for white people?

She's educated and civilized, which is how she developed the good sense to be white. She's going to teach the savages so that they can learn to be white too.

 

[Frozenprince]

Well yeah. White upper class assholes like her have been pricing out and driving out people of color and working class white folks from long island for years and years now.

 

[Slayven]

There wasn't really a concept of race as it is understood today until it was needed to justify slavery and colonialism. It used to be that you could enslave non-Christians but then folks converted so you have to make up a new reason besides, you know, the real reason of course.

From Wikipedia


The modern idea of race and thus racism required global contact and a scientific mode of thinking which produced pseudo-scientific classifications of people. That doesn't mean people didn't hate other groups of people but they didn't hate them because of what we understand as race. The reasons why people hate each other change depending on how the groups identify themselves.

You are just pedantically splitting hairs

 

[R0ckman]

Yeah to be fair though, back in the day a person's skin tone didn't give an automatic global perception of supremacy. The idea to classify human beings into arbitrary groupings, by way of skin tone, is relatively new. The Romans for example, viewed the Egyptians as civilized people, and yet at the same time, they called the Germanic tribes in their northern borders barbarians. The level of melanin you had wasn't an automatic disadvantage in Roman society.

Language was also a factor, any languag that was not Greek or Latin was barbaric.

 

[bionic77]

America 2017.

The good people get stabbed to death and the shits get elected.

 

[L Thammy]

Language was also a factor, any languag that was not Greek or Latin was barbaric.

This statement isn't inaccurate, but it's a little weird and recursive.

Barbarism comes from the Greek word they used to describe other languages, which was more generally a way of mocking speech they found incomprehensible. That's where we got the word. They were also willing to use the term to describes other Greeks or people who spoke poorly.

Not saying that it's enlightened view, but bear in mind that they had a slightly different meaning of "barbaric" when they used the word. It's a little bit like "vulgar latin" where it's the same word, but our use of it has morphed a little from how it was originally used.

 

[TheLaughingStock]

Isn't pioneer really offensive in this context? In what sense is she a pioneer? There were clearly people living here. She is just colonizing this specific area of the Hamptons, the whitest place in the tri state area, for white people?

Sounds like she's following in the footsteps of previous pioneers. They were just white men in the past that moved in and attempted a hostile takeover.

 

[capitalCORN]

Racism was invented to justify slavery.

http://teachersinstitute.yale.edu/curriculum/units/2015/2/15.02.01.x.html

I heard the concept of whiteness originated by the catholic church to denote the difference between white people, and muslims for the crusades..

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

Ms. Smith announced her candidacy in the upcoming Southampton Village Board election, her first run for public office, saying she was prompted in part by wanting to get some attention to her neighborhood. She said she has no plans to drop out of the race.

Mission accomplished

 

[LinkAndEpona]

How horrific, if you live in the area do what you can to vote against her.

 

[PeskyToaster]

There's nothing distinct about racism that makes this a meaningful qualifier. The same attitude that separates a different tribe is the same one that leads to racism.

So, to say racism didn't always exist because actually it was tribalism is kinda meaningless.

It's bout the same as the "Muslim isn't a race" shit

It's the same base psychology but there are important differences in the way in manifests in the world. In particular, the way it was conceived as an immutable speration of people was different than previous examples of tribalism. Religion has a conversion aspect, Rome allowed for citizenship to be gained by non-Romans, and economic class can rise or fall. Race seems almost uniquely permanent and global which makes it distinct from previous forms of the way ingroup and outgroup biases have manifested themselves. As another example, I would say that hating someone for their political beliefs is different than racism even though it's just another form of tribalism. It can be a justifiable hate if their beliefs are harmful which is an important difference from racism. Do you not recognize a difference between any of these?

You are just pedantically splitting hairs

How so? I believe there are significant differences between racism and other forms of hate as I wrote above.

 

[Muppet of a Man]

Is this real life? This woman is out of her mind.

 

[Polioliolio]

Is this real life? This woman is out of her mind.

Unbelievable, this woman. No humility?

 

[siddx]

Pre trump this garbage piece of shit would be falling over herself to apologize and grovel her way out of it. Now we live in a climate where people like this will double down and expect to win anyways.

 

[The Technomancer]

Yeah to be fair though, back in the day a person's skin tone didn't give an automatic global perception of supremacy. The idea to classify human beings into arbitrary groupings, by way of skin tone, is relatively new. The Romans for example, viewed the Egyptians as civilized people, and yet at the same time, they called the Germanic tribes in their northern borders barbarians. The level of melanin you had wasn't an automatic disadvantage in Roman society.

Yeah this is what I was going to clarify

 

[Imperfected]

Is she... is she claiming that it's okay because she's got mad street cred?

That's new. That's not really the way this usually shakes out.