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[Alienous]

White privilege? What are you taking about? Don't I have to be white for that, or...?

I'm not getting you, and I'm not getting your stealing analogy. I'm not saying it's an employer's responsibility, I'm saying that attacking racists with the view of getting them fired is a vain victory unless their views are critically disputed with fact. Racism isn't being 'removed' in those firings, just hidden.

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

Racist views aren't any less dangerous when swept under the carpet. Hiding it away, and not attempting to address or discuss the root of it, doesn't help get rid of it. That's what I was referring to in the post you originally quoted, you aren't removing any racism "like a virus" in just firing people.

Getting them to shut the fuck up makes them much less dangerous since he isn't lynching people or anything. His damage is done in speaking his ignorant beliefs.

 

[Alienous]

Getting them to shut the fuck up makes them much less dangerous since he isn't lynching people or anything. His damage is done in speaking his ignorant beliefs.

I'd say the damage to others is more in his interactions with people, or lackthereof, based on race. The judgements a person makes. But I understand your viewpoint.

 

[pj]

You can remove publicly racist people from your employee rolls like a virus. That's what I was trying to say.

But honest question Alienous. Why do you think it's the job of the employer to fix racism in each racist person like Anthony Cumia? Aren't you asking someone that steals from the company to not be fired because it doesn't teach the employee to not steal anymore?

Can you honestly see why black people can see your post as white privilege?

I think white privilege is a real thing and you are devaluing the term by tossing it around so loosely. It's not white privilege to think firing racists doesn't combat racism. It's a difference of opinion. If you have statistics or research that shows firing racists decreases racism then I'm open to seeing them. I don't think there are any and I doubt there are any that support my position either since it would be incredibly hard to measure. What that leaves us with is this debate that is going in circles endlessly. Privilege has nothing to do with it.

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You're telling me that someone saying the things that he said should not only be able to keep his job, but also given the space and air time to talk about race issues?

The things that got him fired were on twitter. He is still on twitter. He can still talk about race issues on twitter.

This is what us people of color see when white guys like Cumia complain about reverse racism and the lack of justice for the everyday white guy.

Yes, his opinions are ridiculous. He will continue saying that very same stuff on twitter. Only now with more fervor and a riled up following.

 

[ISOM]

Racist views aren't any less dangerous when swept under the carpet. Hiding it away, and not attempting to address or discuss the root of it, doesn't help get rid of it. That's what I was referring to in the post you originally quoted, you aren't removing any racism "like a virus" in just firing people.

My point is that whether it's "swept under the rug" or addressing racism without the consequences of tangible actions like firings does nothing. Racist can be addressed out in the open that doesn't mean anything will change. That is my point. And you speak of racism as a virus well people like anthony who have a platform are able to spread there racism virus because of all the people who listen to him as a public figure.

 

[Higgy]

Getting them to shut the fuck up makes them much less dangerous since he isn't lynching people or anything. His damage is done in speaking his ignorant beliefs.

I think its silly thinking you can't listen to somebody without a adopting everything they believe in. I listen to the show because I love standup comedy. No show has more active rotation of today's biggest comics. When Ant says things I don't agree with I say yeah I don't agree and move on.

And Ant isn't going to shut up. This is the 4th time he's been fired from radio. It's never stopped him before. This will be the most freedom he's ever had and will never have to censor himself again. He lost in this situation how? Everyone who hates him was never going to listen anyway.

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

I think its silly thinking you can't listen to somebody without a adopting everything they believe in. I listen to the show because I love standup comedy. No show has more active rotation of today's biggest comics. When Ant says things I don't agree with I say yeah I don't agree and move on.

And Ant isn't going to shut up. This is the 4th time he's been fired from radio. It's never stopped him before. This will be the most freedom he's ever had and will never have to censor himself again. He lost in this situation how? Everyone who hates him was never going to listen anyway.

This is a rare situation in that he'll continue on being a piece of shit, but between him holding a job for 3 more months or this, this preferable.


This is also bigger than Ant. It sends a message.

 

[Pelydr]

Is stormfront going to be a sponser on his new show?

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

How about DL Hughley? He doesn't think Anthony should have been fired either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_7EFFHlns8

Did you just do "this black guy says it's okay"?

 

[MorisUkunRasik]

Is stormfront going to be a sponser on his new show?

They already got a podcast...I had heard.

 

[Big Baybee]

How about DL Hughley? He doesn't think Anthony should have been fired either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_7EFFHlns8

lol

 

[Higgy]

Did you just do "this black guy says it's okay"?

It was a post saying its more then just Ants friends saying he shouldn't be fired. But you took it where you did. Nice.

 

[mckmas8808]

White privilege? What are you taking about? Don't I have to be white for that, or...?

I'm not getting you, and I'm not getting your stealing analogy. I'm not saying it's an employer's responsibility, I'm saying that attacking racists with the view of getting them fired is a vain victory unless their views are critically disputed with fact. Racism isn't being 'removed' in those firings, just hidden.

Open racism is being removed from the company one person at a time. That was my original point. And that alone is worth it and good for society at large. Who cares if that person continues to have terrible views and opinions away from the job.

They can get educated about their failures of thinking while unemployed, self employed, or employed by another company. But keeping them employed (like at Sirius) shouldn't be our focus.

 

[mckmas8808]

I think white privilege is a real thing and you are devaluing the term by tossing it around so loosely. It's not white privilege to think firing racists doesn't combat racism. It's a difference of opinion. If you have statistics or research that shows firing racists decreases racism then I'm open to seeing them. I don't think there are any and I doubt there are any that support my position either since it would be incredibly hard to measure. What that leaves us with is this debate that is going in circles endlessly. Privilege has nothing to do with it.

Yes, his opinions are ridiculous. He will continue saying that very same stuff on twitter. Only now with more fervor and a riled up following.

It is privilege if you are of the belief that he should keep his job just because if he leaves he'll still be the same racist just with more fervor and a riled up following. This guy can't just say anything that he wants all the time and think he's above getting fired.

Again PJ why should it matter to us or Sirius if he's still going to be a racist on Twitter? Why is it our jobs to "fix" this guy? People get fired all the time for doing things the corporation doesn't deem positive for them and their bottom line.