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2004 Emmys or how Deadwood got fucked over

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siege

Banned
Outstanding Comedy Series
Nominees:
"Arrested Development" (2003)
"Curb Your Enthusiasm" (2000)
"Everybody Loves Raymond" (1996)
"Sex and the City" (1998)
"Will & Grace" (1998)

Outstanding Drama Series
Nominees:
"CSI: Crime Scene Investigation" (2000)
"Joan of Arcadia" (2003)
"Sopranos, The" (1999)
"24" (2001)
"West Wing, The" (1999)

Outstanding Made for Television Movie
Nominees:
And Starring Pancho Villa as Himself (2003) (TV)
Ike: Countdown to D-Day (2004) (TV)
Lion in Winter, The (2003) (TV)
Reagans, The (2003) (TV)
Something the Lord Made (2004) (TV)

Outstanding Miniseries
Nominees:
"American Family" (2002)
"Angels in America" (2003) (mini)
Hornblower: Loyalty (2003) (TV)
Prime Suspect 6 (2003) (TV)
"Traffic" (2004) (mini)

Outstanding Lead Actor in a Comedy Series
Nominees:
Larry David for "Curb Your Enthusiasm" (2000)
John Ritter for "8 Simple Rules... for Dating My Teenage Daughter" (2002)
Kelsey Grammer for "Frasier" (1993)
Matt LeBlanc for "Friends" (1994)
Tony Shalhoub for "Monk" (2002)

Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series
Nominees:
James Spader for "Practice, The" (1997)
James Gandolfini for "Sopranos, The" (1999)
Kiefer Sutherland for "24" (2001)
Martin Sheen for "West Wing, The" (1999)
Anthony LaPaglia for "Without a Trace" (2002)

Outstanding Lead Actor in a Miniseries or Movie
Nominees:
Antonio Banderas for And Starring Pancho Villa as Himself (2003) (TV)
Al Pacino for "Angels in America" (2003) (mini)
James Brolin for Reagans, The (2003) (TV)
Mos Def for Something the Lord Made (2004) (TV)
Alan Rickman for Something the Lord Made (2004) (TV)

Outstanding Lead Actress in a Comedy Series
Nominees:
Patricia Heaton for "Everybody Loves Raymond" (1996)
Jennifer Aniston for "Friends" (1994)
Bonnie Hunt for "Life with Bonnie" (2002)
Jane Kaczmarek for "Malcolm in the Middle" (2000)
Sarah Jessica Parker for "Sex and the City" (1998)

Outstanding Lead Actress in a Drama Series
Nominees:
Jennifer Garner for "Alias" (2001)
Amber Tamblyn for "Joan of Arcadia" (2003)
Mariska Hargitay for "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" (1999)
Edie Falco for "Sopranos, The" (1999)
Allison Janney for "West Wing, The" (1999)

Outstanding Lead Actress in a Miniseries or Movie
Nominees:
Meryl Streep for "Angels in America" (2003) (mini)
Emma Thompson for "Angels in America" (2003) (mini)
Glenn Close for Lion in Winter, The (2003) (TV)
Helen Mirren for Prime Suspect 6 (2003) (TV)
Judy Davis for Reagans, The (2003) (TV)

Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series
Nominees:
Jeffrey Tambor for "Arrested Development" (2003)
Peter Boyle for "Everybody Loves Raymond" (1996)
Brad Garrett for "Everybody Loves Raymond" (1996)
David Hyde Pierce for "Frasier" (1993)
Sean Hayes for "Will & Grace" (1998)

Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series
Nominees:
Victor Garber for "Alias" (2001)
Brad Dourif for "Deadwood" (2004/I)
Steve Buscemi for "Sopranos, The" (1999)
Michael Imperioli for "Sopranos, The" (1999)
John Spencer for "West Wing, The" (1999)

Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Miniseries or Movie
Nominees:
Justin Kirk for "Angels in America" (2003) (mini)
Ben Shenkman for "Angels in America" (2003) (mini)
Patrick Wilson for "Angels in America" (2003) (mini)
Jeffrey Wright for "Angels in America" (2003) (mini)
William H. Macy for Stealing Sinatra (2003)

Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series
Nominees:
Doris Roberts for "Everybody Loves Raymond" (1996)
Kim Cattrall for "Sex and the City" (1998)
Kristin Davis for "Sex and the City" (1998)
Cynthia Nixon for "Sex and the City" (1998)
Megan Mullally for "Will & Grace" (1998)

Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series
Nominees:
Robin Weigert for "Deadwood" (2004/I)
Tyne Daly for "Judging Amy" (1999)
Drea de Matteo for "Sopranos, The" (1999)
Stockard Channing for "West Wing, The" (1999)
Janel Moloney for "West Wing, The" (1999)

Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Miniseries or Movie
Nominees:
Mary-Louise Parker for "Angels in America" (2003) (mini)
Angela Lansbury for Blackwater Lightship, The (2004) (TV)
Julie Andrews for Eloise at Christmastime (2003) (TV)
Anne Heche for Gracie's Choice (2004) (TV)
Anjelica Huston for Iron Jawed Angels (2004) (TV)

Outstanding Variety or Music Program
Nominees:
76th Annual Academy Awards, The (2004) (TV)
Elaine Stritch: At Liberty (2002) (TV)
Ellen DeGeneres: Here and Now (2003) (TV)
"Real Time with Bill Maher" (2003)
Tracey Ullman in the Trailer Tales (2003) (TV)

Outstanding Variety, Music Or Comedy Series
Nominees:
"Chappelle's Show" (2003)
"Daily Show, The" (1996)
"Late Night with Conan O'Brien" (1993)
"Late Night with David Letterman" (1982)
"Saturday Night Live" (1975)

Outstanding Reality Program
Nominees:
"Colonial House" (2004)
"Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" (2003)
"Penn & Teller: Bullshit!" (2003)
"Project Greenlight 2" (2003)
"Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" (2003)

Outstanding Reality-Competition Program
Nominees:
"Amazing Race 4, The" (2003)
"American Idol: The Search for a Superstar" (2002)
"Apprentice, The" (2004)
"Last Comic Standing" (2003)
"Survivor: All-Stars" (2004)

Outstanding Animated Program (For Programming Less than One Hour)
Nominees:
"Futurama" (1999)
"Samurai Jack" (2001)
"Simpsons, The" (1989)
"South Park" (1997)
"SpongeBob SquarePants" (1999)

How the hell does crap like Joan of Arcadia and CSI get nominated over Deadwood in the Best Drama category? Also, where the fuck is Ian Mcshanes nomination for playing Al Swearingen?

Fuck the Emmys.
 

sefskillz

shitting in the alley outside your window
Deadwood got owned :(

I really hope arrested development picks up that outstanding comedy nod.
 
Outstanding Animated Program (For Programming Less than One Hour)
Nominees:

"Futurama" (1999)
"Samurai Jack" (2001)
"Simpsons, The" (1989)
"South Park" (1997)
"SpongeBob SquarePants" (1999)

If The Simpsons wins over Futurama there will be hell to pay
 
How appropriate that a thread about Deadwood had the word "fuck" in the title. Seems like every time I turned on the show thats all I saw...a bunch of cowboys swearing every 3rd word but not really saying much. The show never clicked with me..
 

calder

Member
Ned Flanders said:
How appropriate that a thread about Deadwood had the word "fuck" in the title. Seems like every time I turned on the show thats all I saw...a bunch of cowboys swearing every 3rd word but not really saying much. The show never clicked with me..

It would be more appropriate if the title said "..how Deadwood got fucked over you fucking cunt, I'll kill every one of you droop eyed cocksuckers what fucked with me". ;) Then there'd be a link to a movie clip of some really dirty fat cowboy dancing around with his pecker in his hand.

Awesome show, it really should have been nominated for best drama. And while the cast who got nominated deserve it (Dourif really is great as the doc) seige is right - Ian McShane DEFINITELY should be there. Al Swearengen is the best character on TV in years.
 
Ned Flanders said:
How appropriate that a thread about Deadwood had the word "fuck" in the title. Seems like every time I turned on the show thats all I saw...a bunch of cowboys swearing every 3rd word but not really saying much. The show never clicked with me..


Stick to being the Sperminator or whatever. Criticing T.V. really isn't your field of expertise.
 

calder

Member
Ned Flanders said:
*Has never understood how grown men watch Buffy and or Buffy spin-offs*

How a presumably grown man with a cartoon character for a nickname and avatar can not understand that blows me away. You know how The Simpsons, despite being from a genre normally thought to be exclusively for children (animated comedies), has the capacity for social commentary, wit and sophisticated humour? Same thing with Buffy et al - just because you don't "understand" how it can be so a lot of actual grown up people find the shows well written, compelling and entertaining.

Shit, that's like saying that just because a book is about robots or the future it can't possibly appeal to anyone but teenagers.
 

siege

Banned
Ned Flanders said:
How appropriate that a thread about Deadwood had the word "fuck" in the title. Seems like every time I turned on the show thats all I saw...a bunch of cowboys swearing every 3rd word but not really saying much. The show never clicked with me..

“Here's my counter-offer to your counter-offer: go fuck yourself.”

—Al Swearengen
 

Smidget

Member
Chris (Michael Imperioli) and Adriana (Drea de Matteo) better win just on Long Term Parking alone. That scene when she tells him her secret and that acting... amazing.
 
Oh wait. From another site:

It seems Scrubs always only receives a few token technical nominations (and usually loses them, damn you Sex and the City!), but this year I think we have a real shot.

It was announced this morning that Garrett Donovan and Neil Goldman were nominated in the category Outstanding Writing For A Comedy Series for the very deserving episode "My Screwup." John Michel was also nominated in the category Outstanding Single-Camera Picture Editing
For A Comedy Series for the same episode.

You can read about all nominees at the Emmy website: http://www.emmys.tv

The awards will be handed out September 12.
 

All Hail C-Webb

Hailing from the Chill-Web
Outstanding Comedy Series
Nominees:
"Arrested Development" (2003)
"Curb Your Enthusiasm" (2000)
"Everybody Loves Raymond" (1996)
"Sex and the City" (1998)
"Will & Grace" (1998)

Outstanding Drama Series
Nominees:
"CSI: Crime Scene Investigation" (2000)
"Joan of Arcadia" (2003)
"Sopranos, The" (1999)
"24" (2001)
"West Wing, The" (1999)

Outstanding Made for Television Movie
Nominees:
And Starring Pancho Villa as Himself (2003) (TV)
Ike: Countdown to D-Day (2004) (TV)
Lion in Winter, The (2003) (TV)
Reagans, The (2003) (TV)
Something the Lord Made (2004) (TV)

Outstanding Miniseries
Nominees:
"American Family" (2002)
"Angels in America" (2003) (mini)
Hornblower: Loyalty (2003) (TV)
Prime Suspect 6 (2003) (TV)
"Traffic" (2004) (mini)

Outstanding Lead Actor in a Comedy Series
Nominees:
Larry David for "Curb Your Enthusiasm" (2000)
John Ritter for "8 Simple Rules... for Dating My Teenage Daughter" (2002)
Kelsey Grammer for "Frasier" (1993)
Matt LeBlanc for "Friends" (1994)
Tony Shalhoub for "Monk" (2002)

Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series
Nominees:
James Spader for "Practice, The" (1997)
James Gandolfini for "Sopranos, The" (1999)
Kiefer Sutherland for "24" (2001)
Martin Sheen for "West Wing, The" (1999)
Anthony LaPaglia for "Without a Trace" (2002)

Outstanding Lead Actor in a Miniseries or Movie
Nominees:
Antonio Banderas for And Starring Pancho Villa as Himself (2003) (TV)
Al Pacino for "Angels in America" (2003) (mini)
James Brolin for Reagans, The (2003) (TV)
Mos Def for Something the Lord Made (2004) (TV)
Alan Rickman for Something the Lord Made (2004) (TV)

Outstanding Lead Actress in a Comedy Series
Nominees:
Patricia Heaton for "Everybody Loves Raymond" (1996)
Jennifer Aniston for "Friends" (1994)
Bonnie Hunt for "Life with Bonnie" (2002)
Jane Kaczmarek for "Malcolm in the Middle" (2000)
Sarah Jessica Parker for "Sex and the City" (1998)

Outstanding Lead Actress in a Drama Series
Nominees:
Jennifer Garner for "Alias" (2001)
Amber Tamblyn for "Joan of Arcadia" (2003)
Mariska Hargitay for "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" (1999)
Edie Falco for "Sopranos, The" (1999)
Allison Janney for "West Wing, The" (1999)

Outstanding Lead Actress in a Miniseries or Movie
Nominees:
Meryl Streep for "Angels in America" (2003) (mini)
Emma Thompson for "Angels in America" (2003) (mini)
Glenn Close for Lion in Winter, The (2003) (TV)
Helen Mirren for Prime Suspect 6 (2003) (TV)
Judy Davis for Reagans, The (2003) (TV)

Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series
Nominees:
Jeffrey Tambor for "Arrested Development" (2003)
Peter Boyle for "Everybody Loves Raymond" (1996)
Brad Garrett for "Everybody Loves Raymond" (1996)
David Hyde Pierce for "Frasier" (1993)
Sean Hayes for "Will & Grace" (1998)

Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series
Nominees:
Victor Garber for "Alias" (2001)
Brad Dourif for "Deadwood" (2004/I)
Steve Buscemi for "Sopranos, The" (1999)
Michael Imperioli for "Sopranos, The" (1999)
John Spencer for "West Wing, The" (1999)

Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Miniseries or Movie
Nominees:
Justin Kirk for "Angels in America" (2003) (mini)
Ben Shenkman for "Angels in America" (2003) (mini)
Patrick Wilson for "Angels in America" (2003) (mini)
Jeffrey Wright for "Angels in America" (2003) (mini)
William H. Macy for Stealing Sinatra (2003)

Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series
Nominees:
Doris Roberts for "Everybody Loves Raymond" (1996)
Kim Cattrall for "Sex and the City" (1998)
Kristin Davis for "Sex and the City" (1998)
Cynthia Nixon for "Sex and the City" (1998)
Megan Mullally for "Will & Grace" (1998)

Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series
Nominees:
Robin Weigert for "Deadwood" (2004/I)
Tyne Daly for "Judging Amy" (1999)
Drea de Matteo for "Sopranos, The" (1999)
Stockard Channing for "West Wing, The" (1999)
Janel Moloney for "West Wing, The" (1999)

Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Miniseries or Movie
Nominees:
Mary-Louise Parker for "Angels in America" (2003) (mini)
Angela Lansbury for Blackwater Lightship, The (2004) (TV)
Julie Andrews for Eloise at Christmastime (2003) (TV)
Anne Heche for Gracie's Choice (2004) (TV)
Anjelica Huston for Iron Jawed Angels (2004) (TV)

Outstanding Variety or Music Program
Nominees:
76th Annual Academy Awards, The (2004) (TV)
Elaine Stritch: At Liberty (2002) (TV)
Ellen DeGeneres: Here and Now (2003) (TV)
"Real Time with Bill Maher" (2003)
Tracey Ullman in the Trailer Tales (2003) (TV)

Outstanding Variety, Music Or Comedy Series
Nominees:
"Chappelle's Show" (2003)
"Daily Show, The" (1996)
"Late Night with Conan O'Brien" (1993)
"Late Night with David Letterman" (1982)
"Saturday Night Live" (1975)

Outstanding Reality Program
Nominees:
"Colonial House" (2004)
"Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" (2003)
"Penn & Teller: Bullshit!" (2003)
"Project Greenlight 2" (2003)
"Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" (2003)

Outstanding Reality-Competition Program
Nominees:
"Amazing Race 4, The" (2003)
"American Idol: The Search for a Superstar" (2002)
"Apprentice, The" (2004)
"Last Comic Standing" (2003)
"Survivor: All-Stars" (2004)

Outstanding Animated Program (For Programming Less than One Hour)
Nominees:
"Futurama" (1999)
"Samurai Jack" (2001)
"Simpsons, The" (1989)
"South Park" (1997)
"SpongeBob SquarePants" (1999)
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
Deadwood was the best show on TV IMO. Well that or Arrested Development. Yeah Scrubs got screwed too. Oh and GO SOUTHPARK!
 

Memles

Member
siege said:
Outstanding Reality-Competition Program
Nominees:
"Amazing Race 4, The" (2003)
"American Idol: The Search for a Superstar" (2002)
"Apprentice, The" (2004)
"Last Comic Standing" (2003)
"Survivor: All-Stars" (2004)

This, for me, may well be one of the most hotly contested categories.

While I really enjoyed All Stars, if Pearl Islands couldn't beat The Amazing Race Season Three, the inferior All Stars won't be able to beat Season 4, although it was weaker than season three (Flo made for great TV). American Idol lost to BOTH last year, and Last Comic Standing has no chance in hell.

It's really down to The Apprentice and The Amazing Race, for me. But, if I had to put money on it, Trump it is.

Arcadia should be in the running for Best Drama...I enjoy the show, but not THAT good, especially considering some of the snubs...hell, Law and Order is better on a regular basis. But, it's original, and the more original shows on TV the better. Tamblyn deserved her nomination though.
 

karasu

Member
You know how The Simpsons, despite being from a genre normally thought to be exclusively for children (animated comedies), has the capacity for social commentary, wit and sophisticated humour? Same thing with Buffy et al

I reads.
 

karasu

Member
Oh yeah my "careful editing". It's so full of stealth. My attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of the world is a success, almost! Nobody can scroll up and see that I didn't quote two sentences, that don't change the point of what I quoted to begin with.

just because you don't "understand" how it can be so a lot of actual grown up people find the shows well written, compelling and entertaining.

jesus, this sentence doesn't erase the "Same thing with Buffy" remark that followed what you said about Social commentary and the like. I'm not trying to get into a big brouha over this muck.
 

calder

Member
Seriously, if you don't see how that sentence works than whatever. Just imagine it said "in the same way ppl couldn't believe a cartoon had biting social commentary some people can't believe that Buffy.... ". I wouldn't necessarily say Buffy *doesn't* have obvious social commentary, but that's not what I was saying there.
 
Yay for Arrested Development's nod.

Boo for The Simpsons' just getting a nod thrown its way for being The Simpsons, despite the crappiness.
 

calder

Member
I'd pick my favourites but I realized I usually only watch one show in each category. Who picks the emmy's? Industry types or media voters? I have trouble imagining even TV insiders watching all those different shows enough to really pick the 'best'.
 

AssMan

Banned
Where the fack is Michael Chiklis, and Benito Martinez? Fackin Jews screwing with Emmys (and other award shows) as usual.
 

MASB

Member
Why does Will&Grace and The West Wing get nominated multiple times every year? As every year goes by, those show's quality gets lower and lower. :p

BTW first prediction (not really a prediction, more like almost certainty), any category that Angels In America is nominated for, it will win. Doesn't matter what the competition is. You can almost bet money on that.

Outstanding Lead Actor in a Miniseries or Movie
Nominees:
Antonio Banderas for And Starring Pancho Villa as Himself (2003) (TV)
Al Pacino for "Angels in America" (2003) (mini)
James Brolin for Reagans, The (2003) (TV)
Mos Def for Something the Lord Made (2004) (TV)
Alan Rickman for Something the Lord Made (2004) (TV)
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No Tom Selleck for Ike: Countdown to D-Day? Boo! You know the Emmys have fallen when James Brolin can get a nomination. :p
 
I don't really care about the specifics..if you're a fucking grown man watching Buffy, a show about a teenage ("B-b-but she's older now!!") vampire slayer starring fucking Sarah Michelle Gellar, you should be castrated and deported to Madagascar.

The fucking Simpsons is funny (well, used to be) and allows me to maintain my dignity while watching it. I couldn't respect myself watching Alias (Garner is ugly, fuck you), Seventh Heaven, or Buffy. Thats just the way it is.

I mean I respect everyone's opinion and all. But if you're a man, and you watch Buffy, STOP. For the love of god..
 

teiresias

Member
I'd bet money "Angels In America" wins every category in which it's nominated - at least in the big awards (acting, best miniseries, etc.). I don't know what tech nominations it got though.

The film is absolutely fucking incredible though and it deserves everything it gets. I just think it's a shame that Emma Thompson is inevitably overlooked due to the presence of Meryl Streep. Both of them are amazing in the piece, I just think Thompason should get a bit more credit.
 

jiggle

Member
With Friends and SatC gone next year, and W&G continuing its downward spiral, maybe they'll finally give Scrubs the props that it deserves, next year...one can hope.
 

andthebeatgoeson

Junior Member
DeadStar said:
whats deadwood

No clue. But then again, I haven't been intrigued by a new HBO series in awhile. Skipping Deadwood, 6 Feet Under, etc. But I've never given them a chance. Oh well, I guess it still isn't just HBO. It's regular ass TV. I don't give any other shows much of a chance.

Only TV shows I will watch religiously, Chappelle. Come on Chappelle.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
No Scrubs? The Emmys officially do not exist to me. Oh wait, they never did.
 
Ned Flanders said:
I don't really care about the specifics..if you're a fucking grown man watching Buffy, a show about a teenage ("B-b-but she's older now!!") vampire slayer starring fucking Sarah Michelle Gellar, you should be castrated and deported to Madagascar.

The fucking Simpsons is funny (well, used to be) and allows me to maintain my dignity while watching it. I couldn't respect myself watching Alias (Garner is ugly, fuck you), Seventh Heaven, or Buffy. Thats just the way it is.

I mean I respect everyone's opinion and all. But if you're a man, and you watch Buffy, STOP. For the love of god..

I'm still trying to figure out exactly how ones dignitity is hurt by watching one of the most critically acclaimed shows in the last few years.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
There's gotta be a better way to defend it than by saying it's "critically acclaimed". Everybody Loves Raymond is "critically acclaimed" and everybody knows it's shit.
 
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