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Damn, aint lookin good for the Dodgers. They left Erickson one to many innings, his pitch count was close to the 80's before entering the 5th when he fell apart. I also wish Dave Roberts all the luck with the Padres, always loved having him here. :)
 
BigJonsson said:
I was at the Jays game tonight....

Let me just say

STEERRRRRROIIIIIIID!!!! STEERRRRRROIIIIIIID!!!! STEERRRRRROIIIIIIID!!!! STEERRRRRROIIIIIIID!!!!

OVER RATED *clap clap clap* OVER RATED

And lastly

FUCK THE YANKEES!!!
FUCK THE YANKEES!!!

Haha I loved the crowd tonight

If only the Jays had pulled it out!

And wow, when Matsui came to bat for the first time of the game, every Japanese person I saw whipped out a camera and went silent
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Overrated? Didn't they pound on your asses on Wednesday and then beat you last night?
 
He's always been a good hitter, but running the bases is where he cause the most trouble. Only problem he has is being prone to hamstring injuries.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
:lol Coinidentally enough, i was just flipping through the latest Sporting News and they listed the highest paid player at each position and i'll be damned if every single one of them isn't ridiciulously overpaid, save for maybe Barry Bonds, and thats only when he's roiding.

1B-Jeff Bagwell, $18 million (per season)
2B-Bret Boone, $9 million
SS-Captain Intangibles, $19.6 million
3B-E-Rod, $25.7 million
LF-Barry Bonds, $22 million
CF-Andruw Jones, $13 million
RF-Sammy Soso, $17.9 million
C-Mike Piazza, $16 million
DH-Frank Thomas and Dmitri Young, $8 million
SP-Mike Mussina, $19 million
CL-Moriono Rivera, $10.5 million
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Hmmm....I thought a big deal was made at the time about Roger Clemens getting the highest salary ever for a SP? Weird.

EDIT-Doh.
 
Man, who doesn't love a good play at the plate?

(Milton Bradley guns down Nevin)

"I am 100% positive Manny Ramirez gets $20 million a year and that Roger Clemens is the highest paid pitcher ever"

I thought Manny gets like exactly 20 million a year. But Bonds IS at 22 mill. Both leftfielders, of course.
 
speshylives said:
If I remember right, the Mussina signing was a revenge issue for Steinbrenner because Boston outbid for Manny.
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Opposite, I believe. Red Sox chased Mussina first and Steinbrenner beat them to him, and then they "settled" on Manny.

EDIT- I just checked out some articles from that time (like this one ) and that is the case. The Yankees didn't even bid for Ramirez; the Red Sox were essentially bidding against themselves.
 
No Nomar, no Walker, no bench depth, no bullpen, no closer, no manager, NO PROBLEM.

I foresee nothing but good things for the Cubs in the rest of 2005! :D
 
OMFG shit hit the fan between Ozzie and Magglio:

The brushfire between manager Ozzie Guillen and former White Sox player Magglio Ordonez turned into a full-scale inferno Thursday morning after Guillen took exception to his fellow Venezuelan calling him an "enemy."

"He's a piece of [bleep]," Guillen told Sox beat writers after learning of Ordonez's contempt for Guillen and alleging his manager steered him away from the Sox and to Detroit.

"He's a [bleep], that's what he is," Guillen continued. "He's another Venezuelan [bleep]. [Bleep] him.

"He has an enemy. Now he has a big one. He knows I can [bleep] him a lot of different ways. He better shut the [bleep] up and play for the Detroit Tigers."

In a five-minute interview a member of the Tigers staff halted, Ordonez expressed his frustration over his latest injury but was blunter in discussing the lack of a relationship he had with Guillen from the time they briefly played together with the Sox at the end of the 1997 season.

"We never clicked, even when we played together," Ordonez said. "I don't consider him my friend. I have nothing to say. I don't want to see him or talk to him. He's my enemy.

"If he comes to me and wants to apologize, I wouldn't accept it."

Ordonez said later he didn't have a problem with Sox general manager Ken Williams and insisted it was Guillen who got involved with the Sox's decision not to re-sign him.

"I don't talk bad about people when people are hurt," said Ordonez, who is on the disabled list and will be examined Monday in Philadelphia by a hernia specialist. "I'm very straightforward. There are a lot of people who try to push you down and do the opposite and not try to help you."

Guillen became furious at any suggestion that he should apologize to Ordonez.

"Why do I have to apologize to him?" Guillen responded while sitting in his office chair and tapping his right foot frequently. "Who the [bleep] is Magglio Ordonez? Why ever talk about me? He doesn't do [bleep] for me. But if he thinks I'm his enemy, he has a big enemy. He knows me.

"I just take it the way he wants to take it."

Guillen said Ordonez started the verbal battle in February when Ordonez accused him of forcing him to play last season with a left knee injury that limited him to 52 games and convinced the Sox not to re-sign him after they had offered him a multiyear deal last April.

"Why would I get involved with [contract negotiations]?" Guillen asked. "I don't get involved with that."

Ordonez later switched agents, from Tom Reich to Scott Boras, and landed a five-year, $75 million contract with Detroit.

The Tigers, however, can void the contract if Ordonez's left knee causes him to spend at least 25 days on the disabled list or if he finishes the season on the DL.

That would cost Ordonez $63 million, but Guillen insinuated that messing with him would be a greater risk.

"I think Magglio is playing with fire," Guillen said. "I'm not afraid of him. I have nothing to apologize [for]. I have nothing to do with Magglio wearing the Detroit Tigers uniform.

"Every time when he played for me, he played good. But if he thinks I'm his enemy or I have something against him, it's up to him."

Guillen also felt betrayed because he claimed he told then-Sox GM Ron Schueler to put Ordonez on the 40-man roster after he was left off in the mid-1990s.

"I told Schueler this kid is better than you think," Guillen said.

But apparently not as friendly. Ordonez did meet with a few Sox players after Wednesday's game, including disabled slugger Frank Thomas.

And before Thursday's game, Guillen had an animated discussion on the field with friend and fellow Venezuelan Ugueth Urbina.

As for Ordonez, Guillen said: "He never was my friend because I don't know him. If I think what I say hurt him, I don't give a [bleep]. I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to win games. I have a lot of friends. If Magglio doesn't want to be my friend, I don't have to drink with him.

"… A couple people asked me about it, and was nice about his injury and [bleep]. I don't give a [bleep] what he does for the rest of his life. He [bleeped] with the wrong guy."
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

holy shit
 
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Damn, i hope Mia has a vibrator for the next 2-3 months
 
Holy shit, Ozzie Guillen is now my favourite manager. :lol




Also, Kevin Brown is one of my favourite players in baseball now - I just love his work this year. :D
 
Well, I'll be playing devil's advocate here and say that I'm not impressed with Guillen's comments. I'll even add that I don't see the guy holding his job that long (even though his team has the best record in the AL right now). He definitely should have ignored Ordonez's spoiled brat rant. Why waste energy on that? The tough guy act only works for so long.
 
Damn Duckworth f-ing sucks just like he did at the start of last year,you worthless fat 5th starter.

Stos lost this one :(
 
Hell of a comeback the Astros are making. Hope they finish it, I can't stand Tony LaRussa.

Marlins came back from last night's disaster to beat the Reds. 13 strikeouts by Burnett in six innings...too bad he struggled early and got his pitch count up, because he really had things working from the third on. Mota FINALLY gets a save opportunity and converts it.

Edit: Almost forgot, Burnett is now tied for the NL lead in triples with two. :lol
 
i hardly post in this thread, i never watch sports center, i havent watched a single showing of baseball tonight since the season began because of this garbage team.

who's fucking bright idea was it to let el duque, jon lieber, and esteban loaiza go but refuse to eat half of kevin browns contract just to get rid of him?

has there ever been a woman GM in baseball history? yankees assistant GM is a woman maybe she'll take over for cashman next season.
 
Dang Stros almost came back :(
 
THIRTEEN AND MOTHERFUCKING FOUR

Chicago's starters -- Mark Buehrle, Jose Contreras, Jon Garland, Orlando Hernandez and Garcia -- are 10-3 with an AL-leading 2.88 ERA. They also top the league with 12 quality starts and 115 1/3 innings.
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Freddy with 7 strong innings today. Scotty had 3 walks and 3 stolen bases. We are absolutely on fire.

The league better start recognizing.
 
Joe said:
i hardly post in this thread, i never watch sports center, i havent watched a single showing of baseball tonight since the season began because of this garbage team.

who's fucking bright idea was it to let el duque, jon lieber, and esteban loaiza go but refuse to eat half of kevin browns contract just to get rid of him?

has there ever been a woman GM in baseball history? yankees assistant GM is a woman maybe she'll take over for cashman next season.
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blame your hero steinbrenner. he didnt want to eat the contract. imagine that.
 
Jon Leiber is the one that still bugs me because they could have given him some money over Jaret fucking Wright. He's not a glamour pitcher, but he had great location and was clutch. He was 1 bad pitch to Mark Bellhorn away from winning game 6 and completely nullifying the legendary 1 season makes 85 not count Boston Red Sox. How could you possibly let that go for someone like Jaret Wright, who's success was obviously 70% Magic Leo Mazzone. It was an atrocious move. I knew it 6 months months ago, and I'm still whining about it now.

El Duque was clutch, and stupid Mel and Joe overpitched him last year when Quantrill turned to shit and the bullpen went wonky. I remember one game where he had something like 130 pitches. I guess that's why they let him go, that uncertainty about his arm and age. I really do believe Pavano may be an upgrade. He's a damn horse - and he's pitched and won big games as well.

I keep trying to convince myself that Brown will turn it around. After getting shelled in the first inning, he settled a bit.

More alarming is the big useless' start. Not good at all. If George wants to pay me a few million, I think I can get my arm back up and throw 0 movement grooved fastballs to shit players like Jay Payton as well.
 
Not that I'm a fan of Brown, but he did settle down and give them six innings, followed by some nice work by the middle relief corps. You'd think the Yankees could score five runs at home against a rookie and Texas' bullpen. Everyone hates Brown though, so it's an easy headline.

That said, I do like the sound of Kevin Clown.
 
Jaret Wright with another quality start. What the fuck were the Yanks thinking giving this piece of shit anything? This is fucking disgusting. I'm fucking sick to my stomach of this fucking shit. Fuck the Yankees. Fucking morons won't give Leiber a contract, but they can't wait to run out and sign this fucking piece of shit.

Fucking Brown should take fucking Wright in the back and show him how to punch a wall.
 
i think wright can be a good pitcher he's just a headcase ala jeff weaver. he seems to be taking this playing in new york, playing for the yankees, every game is important thing wayyyy too seriously. at least i have hope in him. kevin clown is just worthless.
 
im sure my fellow yankee fans will agree with me when i say i wouldnt mind the yankees taking a season or two "off" just to rebuild a little bit. the most amazing thing last season? the yankees won 101 games. how they did it is beyond me. this is just unbearable.
 
Brown doesn't have a history of sucking ass like Wright does. Wright had 1 good playoff stretch, and 1 decent season in Atlanta under Mazzone.

I have 0 years of MLB scouting experience, but I could see Wright sucking from miles away. His career ERA is above 5. You pay 25 million over 3 years for that?!? Wright almost blew a 13 RUN LEAD! 13 fucking runs Joe. He couldn't find a comfort zone with a fucking 13 run lead against Tampa Bay...

I'd still rather have 1 Leiber over these guys. I do have more hope in Brown getting back on track and staying almost healthy than Wright ever being anything less than a batting practice pitcher for the opponent.

I agree with you though, things are getting scary.

It's going to take a lot more than 1 or 2 to rebuild the farm system. Last time it took a good 15 years....

I'm gonna go sit in the fetal position in the corner and think about the greats that passed through during that span where Mattingly was all alone... Barfield, Mayberry, Hawkins, Whitson, Sax....BALBONI...
 
Jaret Wright getting shelled again. Glad Atlanta got rid of this guy, although he did pitch rather well for us.

And what is going on with Brian Roberts? Another homer today gives him 7 and 19 rbis on the season with a .355 average. He only had 12 career homeruns previous to this season.
 
Please tell me Jaret Wright has a shoulder injury. Hopefully he misses the rest of the year. Not only do we get to see Chien Ming Wang, but the Yanks can then void the 3rd year of Wright's contract.
 
Holy shit this Stros team cant get one "ONE" fucking run for Clemens! This is absurd,if I was Clemens I would just retire or demand a trade at this point.He's got a era of like .32 or some shit and 3 total runs have scored in a total of 4 or 5 games hes pitched,and 2 he drove in himself.He cant get a win,he pitches shutouts but has no fucking run support >_<
I know its super early,but its not like this guy is getting any younger and hes putting it all out there,you would think his teammates would be too,maybe they just need to stop pressing when hes pitching,its not like they're matched up with the other teams number one pitchers when clemens pitches.

God damn this stros team :(
 
Matrix said:
Holy shit this Stros team cant get one "ONE" fucking run for Clemens! This is absurd,if I was Clemens I would just retire or demand a trade at this point.He's got a era of like .32 or some shit and 3 total runs have scored in a total of 4 or 5 games hes pitched,and 2 he dove in himself.He cant get a win,he pitches shutouts but has no fucking run support >_<
I know its super early,but its not like this guy is getting any younger and hes putting it all out there,you would think his teammates would be too,maybe they just need to stop pressing when hes pitching,its not like they're matched up with the other teams number one pitchers when clemens pitches.

God damn this stros team :(
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I feel ya man. Same situation here in Atlanta with Hudson. The guy has an 0.82 ERA. The only two runs he's given up were solo shots. He's 1-0 with 2 ND's.

Smoltz, who got rocked in his first start, has settled down considerably and brought his 32.40 ERA all the way down to 4.30 in 3 starts. He's got a 29 to 5 KK/BB ratio and is 0-3.

The Braves offense absolutely sucks. We can't score runs for shit. We've scored a total of 13 runs in our 8 loses. Aside from two games where they exploded for 11 runs in each, we struggle to average 2 runs a game.
 
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