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[kevin1025]

I wonder where AMC sees their next critical hit, in terms of prestige shows. At the moment it feels like Halt and Catch Fire, and Better Call Saul were their current things, and I wonder what they see as the next one. Or are they going more for the big global hit type shows now?

 

[Jason Frost]

I wonder where AMC sees their next critical hit

A new spin-off of The Walking Dead set in the future.

 

[Tucah]

the time is now

to bring back Low Winter Sun

 

[berzeli]

Bring back Rubicon.

.

 

[dead souls]

Bring back Rubicon.

So I can get a huge smile on my face when it gets canceled again?

Unless it would have had an amazing explosion of quality like Halt did between seasons one and two I'm glad AMC never made another episode of it.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

Bring back Rubicon.

Watch The Bureau. It's much better than Rubicon ever was.

I wonder where AMC sees their next critical hit, in terms of prestige shows. At the moment it feels like Halt and Catch Fire, and Better Call Saul were their current things, and I wonder what they see as the next one. Or are they going more for the big global hit type shows now?

Dietland, I think.

 

[berzeli]

Watch The Bureau. It's much better than Rubicon ever was.

.
And i fucking loved Rubicon.

 

[kevin1025]

Dietland, I think.

Yeah, of the upcoming ones, that's probably the best bet.

 

[NKnight7]

Thank you AMC for giving us 4 seasons of this fantastic show...

BTW Episode S04 E08 had a rating of 0.08

That's me with Turn, I'm glad AMC gave that show four good seasons and a solid ending.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

AMC has apparently relaxed their "1 fuck per season" rule - now they allow "2 fucks per season"!

Also, speaking of Turn, there was an interesting tidbit about its performance on AMC Premiere (their $5 per month ad free thing that's Comcast exclusive):

Collier and AMC head of innovation Mac McKean say early data from the first three months of the service have shown some surprising results in terms of what kinds of programs do well on the premium platform. Per McKean, the AMC Revolutionary War drama Turn: Washington’s Spies, which was never a massive hit when it aired on the network, has “had a significant viewership on AMC Premiere.” The series skewed old when it was a linear series, something that’s not ideal for an ad-driven network like AMC, since advertisers pay a premium for younger audiences. “But subscription knows no demo,” McKean says. Because audiences “of all ages have pooled together” to watch Turn on Premiere, the series has become a “powerful” show for the service.

Source

One of the good things about OTT services is that shows that skew old aren't necessarily DOA - they have the potential to survive linearly due to their success on VOD services. (which isn't what happened with Turn because that show ended before AMC Premiere launched, but still)

 

[Jason Frost]

AMC has apparently relaxed their "1 fuck per season" rule - now they allow "2 fucks per season"!

Considering that many shows on AMC are now airing in two parts, it makes sense to have two fucks, lol.

 

[berzeli]

AMC has apparently relaxed their "1 fuck per season" rule - now they allow "2 fucks per season"!

lol, I'm still not over American puritanism when it comes to swears. There's more swearing on our morning shows than in The Walking Dead.

It gets doubly ridiculous since it is cable so they aren't mandated to be so strict (other than to not scare off advertisers).

Also, speaking of Turn, there was an interesting tidbit about its performance on AMC Premiere (their $5 per month ad free thing that's Comcast exclusive):
Source

One of the good things about OTT services is that shows that skew old aren't necessarily DOA - they have the potential to survive linearly due to their success on VOD services. (which isn't what happened with Turn because that show ended before AMC Premiere launched, but still)

"subscription knows no demo" is a fairly succinct point, and it really is a good thing that allows for more diversity in programming.

 

[Zoe]

FX and USA showing them how it's done!

 

[NKnight7]

FX has surprised me with the swearing, especially on AHS. I guess I'm still getting used to it.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

lol, I'm still not over American puritanism when it comes to swears. There's more swearing on our morning shows than in The Walking Dead.

It gets doubly ridiculous since it is cable so they aren't mandated to be so strict (other than to not scare off advertisers).

Yeah, but you got like unsimulated sex in soap ads so like...

I'm really curious to know which advertiser/s they're afraid of scaring away.

"subscription knows no demo" is a fairly succinct point, and it really is a good thing that allows for more diversity in programming.

Yep. I think Netflix would have revived Harry's Law if they had been in the business of doing that when HL was on the air. I remember it being, like, NBC's most watched show (in total viewers) but the execs were like "old people are irrelevant" so they canned it.

 

[KonradLaw]

Yep. I think Netflix would have revived Harry's Law if they had been in the business of doing that when HL was on the air. I remember it being, like, NBC's most watched show (in total viewers) but the execs were like "old people are irrelevant" so they canned it.

Well, they did pick up Longmire afterall, which was canceled while being the most watched show on WGN, but it was mostly watched by old people.
And there's no way Grace and Frankie would have been made on anything that relies on advertising.

 

[Jason Frost]

Well, they did pick up Longmire afterall, which was canceled while being the most watched show on WGN, but it was mostly watched by old people.

I think it was A&E.

 

[KonradLaw]

I think it was A&E.

Yeah, you're right.

 

[xrnzaaas]

AMC has apparently relaxed their "1 fuck per season" rule - now they allow "2 fucks per season"!

There should be a Talking Dead episode devoted entirely to when Negan ought to use the swear words. Should it come unexpectedly or should they leave them for the season finale? Or maybe they'll introduce a shocking twist and have someone like Coral swear?

Well, they did pick up Longmire afterall, which was canceled while being the most watched show on WGN, but it was mostly watched by old people.
And there's no way Grace and Frankie would have been made on anything that relies on advertising.

I don't see the 50+ audience being that important to Netflix either.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Thinking more about it, Once Upon A Time absolutely destroyed themselves with that season premiere.
Basically seemed like everything you don't want in a spinoff/sequel that absolutely ruins the original(and especially the pretty good ending they had with S6)

Along comes episode 2 and completely fixes those issues or side stepped them all together.
So glad I just put it on while I was doing a few things because after episode 1 I despised it and certainly wasn't planning to watch another episode.


On the other hand one of the new leads(Cinderella) is still complete garbage though.

 

[KonradLaw]

I don't see the 50+ audience being that important to Netflix either.

Their subscription is worth every bit as much as young persons. There are of course issues like social importance and influence, but relying on subs instead of adds means Netflix can pander to older people just fine. Especially since as a streaming service it's not done by sacrificing appeal to younger audience.

 

[WaffleTaco]

There should be a Talking Dead episode devoted entirely to when Negan ought to use the swear words. Should it come unexpectedly or should they leave them for the season finale? Or maybe they'll introduce a shocking twist and have someone like Coral swear?



I don't see the 50+ audience being that important to Netflix either.

Have the opening words of Season 8 be:
Coral: Fuck Negan
Rick: We will fuck Negan son.

 

[berzeli]

MipCom is underway:
The Terror has apparently been pushed to 2018
(Then again, it's so unfinished you can see the green screen in the promo pic):

First key art from the new show from the creator of Luther set in a pre-apocalyptic world:

Key art from the upcoming The City & The City adaptation:

And key art for that upcoming Starz supernatural spy show thing:

2nd edit: Woops I forgot my favourite of the bunch, this trippy thing for the new adaptation of Picnic at Hanging Rock:

Crackle has a strategy?:

Some netflix stats:

Bonus bit of stat:

edit: Almost forgot to link the trailer for Britania, the "toally not GoT you guys"-show
There's also like three shows about the Russian Revolution being promoted, which a touch weird.

 

[Linkura]

MipCom is underway:
The Terror has apparently been pushed to 2018
(Then again, it's so unfinished you can see the green screen in the promo pic):

Hahahahhahaha

 

[Grizzlyjin]

Ten Days in the Valley death watch.

 

[vypek]

Toy Box came back for another season? I didn't think it did well for ABC last season

 

[berzeli]

Yo, the CEO of HBO just announced that they will launch a global platform/service next year
https://twitter.com/mip/status/919946079239581696

 

[Grizzlyjin]

Yo, the CEO of HBO just announced that they will launch a global platform/service next year
https://twitter.com/mip/status/919946079239581696

Now and GO aren't already global? Or maybe I've just been seeing people post about HBO Nordic and assumed. How has the rest of the world been watching Thrones, y'all?

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

Toy Box came back for another season? I didn't think it did well for ABC last season

Really should be Shark Tank but for kids stuff.
make the things have to get past the kids but then go to actual experts and business people.

 

[Lupercal]

Now and GO aren't already global? Or maybe I've just been seeing people post about HBO Nordic and assumed. How has the rest of the world been watching Thrones, y'all?

Syndications over here. Always a year behind though unless you pay an extra fee for the current season.

 

[berzeli]

Now and GO aren't already global? Or maybe I've just been seeing people post about HBO Nordic and assumed. How has the rest of the world been watching Thrones, y'all?

It's kind of messy.

I think HBO Nordic is the only straight up port of HBO Now/Go (but with more content), but I could be wrong about that.

 

[Busty]

Yo, the CEO of HBO just announced that they will launch a global platform/service next year
https://twitter.com/mip/status/919946079239581696

Inevitable. I believe most of HBO's output deals start to run out in the next year or two (I think their Sky deal is until 2020) so it makes sense for them to big a global roll out in an effort to compete with Netflix, Apple and whoever else is going to jump into the SVOD shark pool.

Now the question becomes when does HBO announce an increase in output and adopt a partial 'binge model' where some shows air weekly while others get rolled out Netflix style?

 

[berzeli]

Not only is HBO coming to the world, the world is coming to HBO, via Variety:

HBO is looking to bridge the global gap by bringing some of its original international series production to its U.S. streaming and VOD platforms.

In December, two original series from the key regions where HBO operates branded channels — Latin America, Europe and Asia — will become available via HBO Now, HBO Go and HBO’s linear VOD platforms.

HBO aims to establish a regular showcase for its international series as the company steps up its investment in local-language productions. HBO originals produced outside the U.S. are distributed widely across its international outlets.

Some of HBO’s Latin American productions have aired in the U.S. on the HBO Latino channel, but the December launch of “Best of HBO International” marks the first time HBO has crafted a block of international productions for U.S. consumption.

(took them long enough)
Trailer

 

[vinnygambini]

Inevitable. I believe most of HBO's output deals start to run out in the next year or two (I think their Sky deal is until 2020) so it makes sense for them to big a global roll out in an effort to compete with Netflix, Apple and whoever else is going to jump into the SVOD shark pool.

Now the question becomes when does HBO announce an increase in output and adopt a partial 'binge model' where some shows air weekly while others get rolled out Netflix style?

Same for Bell in Canada.

 

[chadskin]

Hopefully HBO's own platform is better than Sky's which has terrible, terrible apps here.

 

[berzeli]

An article on the HBO keynote at mipcom:
HBO boss Richard Plepler: “We’re not trying to be Netflix” — MIPCOM report

HBO Nordic played a role in that: a direct-to-consumer play launched in Scandinavia, partly as a learning exercise. “We learned a lot about marketing, we learned a lot about technology, and we learned a lot about direct-to-consumer,” said Plepler. “Our growth in the Nordics has been fantastic… What’s exciting for us internationally, just as we’re running a multilateral strategy in the United States, we’re running a multilateral strategy around the globe.” So HBO prizes its partners abroad as well as the opportunities to go direct to viewers.

Oh cool, so we were guinea pigs? That explains a lot.

“We will be ready at some point in the middle of next year with one global [OTT] platform,” he added, while stressing that HBO isn’t tearing up its existing distribution deals. “We have terrific licensing deals which are very very high-margin, low-risk revenue businesses. They are businesses that have performed very well for us… So those are wonderful deals for us, they go out a number of years. We wanted to build the kind of flexibility so that we can do whatever we decide to do down the road,” he added. “We’ll decide market by market… Where we have built OTT businesses, we’ve seen a lot of progress.”

“We’re not trying to be Netflix. Netflix has grown, we’ve grown. We over-index in their homes, they over-index in our homes… The reason I think that we over-index in each other’s homes is these are entertainment junkies. They love great content. This has never been about them or us. It’s about them and us.”

The final topic was the in-progress merger with US telco AT&T. What effect will that have on HBO’s business and creativity? “Having the kind of data that will come from this merger, which will I think help our ability to talk to consumers, to talk to potential consumers, to help with subscriber acquisition. I can’t help but think that is a terrific added advantage to us,” said Plepler. “If we have access to that kind of consumer data, I think that helps us market, I think that helps us keep our customers stickier, I think that helps us churn and I think that helps us design our UI and UX for our product.”

Finally, Plepler was asked about HBO’s plans for new shows set in the world of Game of Thrones after its last series airs in 2018. The network already has teams of writers and creatives working on ideas for new spin-offs, but the chairman and CEO played a straight bat to a question about whether he could share any details.

“No! Other than to say to you that it’s a fantastic group of writers and talent, most of whom have lived inside the Thrones ecosystem, so are very, very familiar with its intricacies. None of those groups would do anything just to do it. And of course nor would we,” he said.

No news is, um, no news.

Hopefully HBO's own platform is better than Sky's which has terrible, terrible apps here.

lol.
HBO Nordic is pretty bad tech wise.

 

[FoneBone]

Whoa, I'd thought The City and The City was dead (there'd been no news for quite a while after the BBC originally announced the project in 2015). Totally missed the casting announcement earlier this year.

 

[Mindwipe]

Yo, the CEO of HBO just announced that they will launch a global platform/service next year
https://twitter.com/mip/status/919946079239581696

It's more about technical platform than anything.

HBO Nordic isn't built on anything to do with HBO Now for example.

As the man says, they're "not tearing up" their existing syndication deals with international clients, and I expect them to renew them for at least another twenty years.

You might see them use that platform to go to market more quickly in an individual new country when existing arrangements fail, but for instance the chances of this platform replacing the UK Sky deal are nil.

 

[berzeli]

It's more about technical platform than anything.

HBO Nordic isn't built on anything to do with HBO Now for example.

As the man says, they're "not tearing up" their existing syndication deals with international clients, and I expect them to renew them for at least another twenty years.

You might see them use that platform to go to market more quickly in an individual new country when existing arrangements fail, but for instance the chances of this platform replacing the UK Sky deal are nil.

It's not just technical platform, they talk about going multilateral and doing direct to consumer. The extent of it isn't known yet, which is also why I didn't make a thread of this so that people won't be to disappointed when "global" doesn't mean "everywhere".

It's sort of the reverse, HBO Now is built on some of the HBO Nordic tech iirc.

 

[Rhaknar]

Now and GO aren't already global? Or maybe I've just been seeing people post about HBO Nordic and assumed. How has the rest of the world been watching Thrones, y'all?

...do you really want to know? :3

Actually its on tv here on some random chnnel, but m like 2 seasons behind.

 

[kevin1025]

Same for Bell in Canada.

I wonder if they would renew with Bell and keep that Movie Network/CraveTV deal or finally break free. I’m not a fan of new content behind a cable paywall and old content separate on a streaming service. I’d be fine if they just made CraveTV the home for everything.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Ten Days in the Valley death watch.

They need to hurry up and market Ten Days in the Valley as a special fall event series, so it can look good on paper.

Now we just wait for WisdomCBS s2, I guess his daughter's "death" wont get solved this season.

 

[Norwegian Rudo]

One that's totally slipped under my radar: Slasher season 2 debuts tomorrow on Netflix.

Last I heard must have been a year or so ago when the Canadian channel it was made for was closed down and the rights reverted back to the creator. Can't even find a trailer so it's safe to say Netflix aren't exactly pushing it.

Also debuting tomorrow is Travelers season 2, at least in Canada. Now with Enrico Colantoni!

I guess it's a good day for fans of Canadian genre TV like me.

 

[kevin1025]

One that's totally slipped under my radar: Slasher season 2 debuts tomorrow on Netflix.

Last I heard must have been a year or so ago when the Canadian channel it was made for was closed down and the rights reverted back to the creator. Can't even find a trailer so it's safe to say Netflix aren't exactly pushing it.

Also debuting tomorrow is Travelers season 2, at least in Canada. Now with Enrico Colantoni!

I guess it's a good day for fans of Canadian genre TV like me.

With our new Netflix deal as well, Canada is slowly taking over! I'm looking forward to more Travelers.

 

[vinnygambini]

I wonder if they would renew with Bell and keep that Movie Network/CraveTV deal or finally break free. I’m not a fan of new content behind a cable paywall and old content separate on a streaming service. I’d be fine if they just made CraveTV the home for everything.

I think the economics for HBO are simply too good to pass, so I doubt a HBO GO subscription will ever be released by itself in the Canadian market without cable bundling. What I do see perhaps happening, is Bell providing an added tier to CraveTV for HBO content. Bell would be protecting their investment, and HBO will still be getting that Canada monies.

 

[kevin1025]

I think the economics for HBO are simply too good to pass, so I doubt a HBO GO subscription will ever be released by itself in the Canadian market without cable bundling. What I do see perhaps happening, is Bell providing an added tier to CraveTV for HBO content. Bell would be protecting their investment, and HBO will still be getting that Canada monies.

The added tier would be nice. They have nearly all Showtime stuff already airing simultaneously on CraveTV, it'd be nice if they could push HBO over there for a little extra, too. Paying $9 for CraveTV and then $20 for the new HBO stuff over cable isn't fun anymore.

 

[TDLink]

One that's totally slipped under my radar: Slasher season 2 debuts tomorrow on Netflix.

Last I heard must have been a year or so ago when the Canadian channel it was made for was closed down and the rights reverted back to the creator. Can't even find a trailer so it's safe to say Netflix aren't exactly pushing it.

Also debuting tomorrow is Travelers season 2, at least in Canada. Now with Enrico Colantoni!

I guess it's a good day for fans of Canadian genre TV like me.

I'm assuming Travelers won't be on Netflix until after the season has completely run in Canada?

 

[kevin1025]

I'm assuming Travelers won't be on Netflix until after the season has completely run in Canada?

Yep, Canada has it weekly and then it'll be on Netflix once the season is complete. Probably super late in December.

 

[TDLink]

Yep, Canada has it weekly and then it'll be on Netflix once the season is complete. Probably super late in December.

I wish with this show (and other shows like it) they would do what they're doing with Star Trek Discovery in other regions -- release each episode the day after it airs in its native country.

 

[berzeli]

Someone fetch Lionel Mandrake!
Pure Flix unveils MIPCOM slate

The Pure Flix slate screening at MIPCOM include:

Hilton Head Island, an original 13x1 hour soap opera in the tradition of All My Children, General Hospital, and Falcon Crest. When Daniel Trask, family patriarch and founder of the ISLE Television Network, falls seriously ill, his wife and children are suddenly at odds over control of the family's media empire. Donna Mills, Antonio Saboto Jr, Crystal Hunt, and Michael Swan star.

Malibu Dan: The Family Man stars David A.R. White, Kelly Stables, Andrea Logan White, John O'Hurley, and Robin Givens. The 13x25 family comedy centres on Dan Marshall as he juggles his home life with wife and daughter and the demands as co-host of the pre-dawn talk show Good Morning, Malibu.

Family film The Stray stars Michael Cassidy as the distracted patriarch of the Davis family, Sarah Lancaster as his unhappy wife, Connor Corum as their lonely young son, and Jacque Gray. The Stray tells the story of how a stray dog, Pluto, impacts the life of the struggling Davis family. In just a short time, Pluto the ”wonderdog" manages to save a toddler, bring comfort and companionship to a hurting 9-year-old boy, help restore a marriage, and repair a broken father-son relationship. The film was directed, produced, and written by Mitch Davis, and co-written by Parker Davis.

The Dating Project, directed by Jonathan Cipiti, is a docu-feature film that reflects on the Millennial dating culture of today's world. The film follows five young single people who are trying to figure out dating in the age of social media, texting, hanging out and hooking up. The film is set to premiere for limited release on Valentine's Day 2018.

I like that the faith based media creator Pure Flix is now so out of touch that they basically only make scripted shows about faith based media. Also I think there were typos in their press release (who's Saboto). lol.