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3 Years later and *I* still can't build a PC more powerful than the Xbox One X at the same price. (Step-by-Step Deconstruction)

One of the thing that people have stated across the internet who are PS5 and PC fanatics, is that the Xbox One X, when it was revealed in 2017, was pointless, because $500 is a lot of money and you can make a PC for cheaper. That was false then, and was equally false last year. Xbox One X is not only the best value to power ratio (VTP) but it has been a major reason for the yoy increase seen in 2018 from 2017 for sales. Some countries the One X is the best selling model despite its higher price.

Now that the Xbox One X is $399 (and with some controversial game bundles $350) it is becoming more and more the default option if you want powerful gaming.

So in laymens terms, it is not feasibly possible to build a new PC from scratch (or buy one new) that will give you the same flexibility and power of the Xbox One X (without compromise) unless you end up paying more. It is not possible to meet it at the same price, and now we will go through a step-by-step illustration at to why.

GPU and RAM:

The Xbox One X has 12 GB of GDDR5 Ram, and a heavily customized VEGA CPU with heavy feature-set protocols and translucent flexibility for optimization.

The only way you can build a PC to match that GPU is to throw in a Nvidia 1070. Of course you will need RAM as well, but you can actually beat the Xbox One outright with a 1070 with 8GB of ram instead of 12.

The Issue is a Nvidia 1070 GPU and 8GB of DDR5 is $974. Sure you can get a used one for $695, but you aren't buying a used GPU when you are buying a NEW Xbox One X.

CPU:


Due to Intel and AMD delaying on tick tock cycles, the CPU game has been a bit leafy. But now with Ryzen you can produce a cheap powerful CPU for less. The Xbox One X has good specs, but the CPU aspect is the one that's easily beaten, as its core Jaguar of 8 cycles is quite outdated.

You can get a Ryzen 2600X for $179.99, which is a pretty good price.

STORAGE/MEMORY:

With SSD's becoming cheaper, we are seeing many computers adopt SDD over HDD due to the amount of virtual ram computers take up these days, and it allows the optimization of the OS to run smoother. Since the Xbox One X isn't a console, it doesn't need such a thing as its game focused, so a 1TB HDD is fine. HDD are actually slowly becoming more expensive as companies abandon them.

However, since this is about matching the Xbox One X, we need to look at the cost of a HDD for PC builders. Which to be fair, is still cheaper than SSD's anyway, for now.

You can get a refurbished Dell 1 TB Enhanced SATA 3.5 range HDD for $129.95.

MotherBoard:

One thing computer buyers HAVE to buy when building PC from scratch that console owners don't since it's proprietary, is a Motherboard. Without the motherboard your connections and the thing that holds your frontend and backend services together won't exist. Sure the One X has a motherboard but it's basically at no cost in comparison.

Luckily you can get a pretty cheap Motherboard for gaming. You can get a Rog Asus Stix450 for only $119.

Power Surge Unit:


The PSU is important for cooling to make sure heat escapes and your hardware can maintain it's luster without the fear of overheating. The PSU is one of the cheaper parts to buy fortunately. One of the cheapest I can find that can match the Xbox One X efficiency and power draw is the Thermallake RGB 80, which only costs $74.

Operating System:

On the Xbox One X a customized proprietary from of Windows 10 s included for free, and since it's limited due to the specific functions of a game consoles, and isn't a heavy registry backend riddled PC with running processes all over the place, it's also very cheap and easy to give for free.

However, if you build a PC you won't be so lucky. However, Windows 10 isn't too much money by itself. You can buy Windows 10 pro 64-bit edition for around $109. Which matched the 64-bit modified version on the Xbox One which is also based on the pro edition.

Wifi Connector:

Xbox One has wifi built in and the custom hardware is pretty good. However, wifi is very cheap and you can get a TP-Link Wifi connector for only $19.99, so no need to worry.

Controller:

The Xbox One X comes with an Xbox One controller. Xbox One controllers however, are automatically compatible with PCs,so this works out in your favor. The price for a stand-alone new controller at some stores who have deals is $49.99, so you can easily pick one up.

CASE;

Finally, you need a case, a case to put all you built inside of, to hold everything together, and become your tower. Fortunately the last step is the easiest these days. Nowadays, they build the cases so you can easily slot in components without much issue.

You can buy a MicroNZXT 500 case for only $69.99


CONCLUSION AND TOTAL:

When you add up all the necessities, you come to a total of $1725.91!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Xbox One X is currently at max, $399. That's over $1300 LESS than what it would cost to buy a PC with specs that exceed the Xbox One X by the bare minimum.

It is really impressive how they managed to craft such sophisticated hardware in such a way that the price is such a small factor. Truly am amazed at the Surface team, because apparently thy are the ones who made the hardware, and once again, for the third year in a row, you can't build a more powerful PC from scratch, for $400. You have to at least pay over $1700 to reach surpass it.
 
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He's right that a pc is more expensive though; it's just also much more capable. But you could get something similar with used parts and a bit of clever thinking.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
It’s like you seek out what has been done before and retro it yourself.

Are y’all working for the same marketing firm?

 

demigod

Member
It’s like you seek out what has been done before and retro it yourself.

Are y’all working for the same marketing firm?


I could use the extra cash. Let me know if you guys need me to astroturf for MS.
 
On further inspection the issue with this thread might not entirely be the OP's fault. You see most people, don't understand the basics of computers. Most people, know how to log on to Facebook, move icons around, and in some cases, turn the computer off and on, but that's most of their understanding.

There's a reason why there are classes teaching people how to use the mouse and double-click icons among other things, and people pay lots of money for those classes. Very few people know what a Supply unit is, even OP though it was a "Power Surge Unit" whatever that fucking means.

It may be not that he has completely lost his mind like many here think and we were too harsh, instead it may be that he doesn't know the complex details when it comes to computer techno-

a heavily customized VEGA CPU with heavy feature-set protocols and translucent flexibility for optimization.

Ok, ok, maybe he might be slightly a bit behind the rest of the class, but still I'm sure that if he were to-

With SSD's becoming cheaper, we are seeing many computers adopt SDD over HDD due to the amount of virtual ram computers take up these days, and it allows the optimization of the OS to run smoother. Since the Xbox One X isn't a console, it doesn't need such a thing as its game focused, so a 1TB HDD is fine. HDD are actually slowly becoming more expensive as companies abandon them.

You know what, nevermind, fuck it. I tried.
 

Stuart360

Member
As a PC gamer, it doesnt really matter if you can or cant because build a PC with similar specs, and the console will run a game much better than the PC version.
Thats the one major downfall with PC gaming imo, optimization, or a lack of it these days.
 
CPU in xbox1x is weaker than any cheapest 4 core AMD part [Zen3 ~$70], GPU doesn't compare with 1070 but is very close to RX 580 [~$170].

For 500 you could have easily beaten box1x perf years ago.

One example: Forza Horizon 4 while Xbox1x only have 30 fps mode at 4K and 60 fps only at 1080p the 1070 manages to keep 60 fps at native 4K with comparable settings and that game is greatly optimized for amd cards.
 
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Ellery

Member
is this an extremely poorly bait trollpost? Because I see nothing in there that makes any sense and only shows a severe lack of understanding
 
My PC runs games as well or better than Xbox One X and apart from the GPU (a 1070 i bought for ~380 Euros in 2016) it's all budget tier hardware from nearly 5 years ago.

Impressive effort for a shitpost, though.
 

Orenji Neko

Member
What about that deadly laser it contains within? Hmm...it’s reasonably cheap...has a Blu-ray drive....

I got it!

It’s a ploy to get it into many homes, so that as many people as possible are liquidated by the evil Bluray! Those villains! It’s all so clear, why didn’t we notice this before? Alas, I think we may be too late. Oh mankind....why did it have to end like this?
 
Here are some of the highlights that show OP may have never even hooked in a mouse to the back of his case let alone brought any part for a PC:

Due to Intel and AMD delaying on tick tock cycles, the CPU game has been a bit leafy.

What?

CPU aspect is the one that's easily beaten, as its core Jaguar of 8 cycles is quite outdated.

I don't think he knows what cycles mean.

With SSD's becoming cheaper, we are seeing many computers adopt SDD over HDD due to the amount of virtual ram computers take up these days, and it allows the optimization of the OS to run smoother.

?

HDD are actually slowly becoming more expensive as companies abandon them.

????????????

Without the motherboard your connections and the thing that holds your frontend and backend services together won't exist.

My what?

Power Surge Unit:

Lol wut???

The PSU is important for cooling to make sure heat escapes and your hardware can maintain it's luster without the fear of overheating.

Basically said the same thing three times in one sentence.

and isn't a heavy registry backend riddled PC with running processes all over the place, it's also very cheap and easy to give for free.

The Xbox has running processes...

When you add up all the necessities, you come to a total of $1725.91!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, if you don't know how to look for deals and buy a $300 1070 for almost a grand, and paying over $100 for Windows 10, you will get such a high number.

Issue is people looking to build a PC (hopefully) are that freaking stupid that they will not check out newegg, Ebay, or Amazon and pay 7x the price for the same parts.
 
It’s like you seek out what has been done before and retro it yourself.

Are y’all working for the same marketing firm?


Voost Kain knew how to get everyone to fight with eachother for 7 pages while he left the thread. FG don't got dem skillz.
 

tkscz

Member
One of the thing that people have stated across the internet who are PS5 and PC fanatics, is that the Xbox One X, when it was revealed in 2017, was pointless, because $500 is a lot of money and you can make a PC for cheaper. That was false then, and was equally false last year. Xbox One X is not only the best value to power ratio (VTP) but it has been a major reason for the yoy increase seen in 2018 from 2017 for sales. Some countries the One X is the best selling model despite its higher price.

Now that the Xbox One X is $399 (and with some controversial game bundles $350) it is becoming more and more the default option if you want powerful gaming.

So in laymens terms, it is not feasibly possible to build a new PC from scratch (or buy one new) that will give you the same flexibility and power of the Xbox One X (without compromise) unless you end up paying more. It is not possible to meet it at the same price, and now we will go through a step-by-step illustration at to why.

GPU and RAM:

The Xbox One X has 12 GB of GDDR5 Ram, and a heavily customized VEGA CPU with heavy feature-set protocols and translucent flexibility for optimization.

The only way you can build a PC to match that GPU is to throw in a Nvidia 1070. Of course you will need RAM as well, but you can actually beat the Xbox One outright with a 1070 with 8GB of ram instead of 12.

The Issue is a Nvidia 1070 GPU and 8GB of DDR5 is $974. Sure you can get a used one for $695, but you aren't buying a used GPU when you are buying a NEW Xbox One X.

CPU:

Due to Intel and AMD delaying on tick tock cycles, the CPU game has been a bit leafy. But now with Ryzen you can produce a cheap powerful CPU for less. The Xbox One X has good specs, but the CPU aspect is the one that's easily beaten, as its core Jaguar of 8 cycles is quite outdated.

You can get a Ryzen 2600X for $179.99, which is a pretty good price.

STORAGE/MEMORY:

With SSD's becoming cheaper, we are seeing many computers adopt SDD over HDD due to the amount of virtual ram computers take up these days, and it allows the optimization of the OS to run smoother. Since the Xbox One X isn't a console, it doesn't need such a thing as its game focused, so a 1TB HDD is fine. HDD are actually slowly becoming more expensive as companies abandon them.

However, since this is about matching the Xbox One X, we need to look at the cost of a HDD for PC builders. Which to be fair, is still cheaper than SSD's anyway, for now.

You can get a refurbished Dell 1 TB Enhanced SATA 3.5 range HDD for $129.95.

MotherBoard:

One thing computer buyers HAVE to buy when building PC from scratch that console owners don't since it's proprietary, is a Motherboard. Without the motherboard your connections and the thing that holds your frontend and backend services together won't exist. Sure the One X has a motherboard but it's basically at no cost in comparison.

Luckily you can get a pretty cheap Motherboard for gaming. You can get a Rog Asus Stix450 for only $119.

Power Surge Unit:

The PSU is important for cooling to make sure heat escapes and your hardware can maintain it's luster without the fear of overheating. The PSU is one of the cheaper parts to buy fortunately. One of the cheapest I can find that can match the Xbox One X efficiency and power draw is the Thermallake RGB 80, which only costs $74.

Operating System:

On the Xbox One X a customized proprietary from of Windows 10 s included for free, and since it's limited due to the specific functions of a game consoles, and isn't a heavy registry backend riddled PC with running processes all over the place, it's also very cheap and easy to give for free.

However, if you build a PC you won't be so lucky. However, Windows 10 isn't too much money by itself. You can buy Windows 10 pro 64-bit edition for around $109. Which matched the 64-bit modified version on the Xbox One which is also based on the pro edition.

Wifi Connector:

Xbox One has wifi built in and the custom hardware is pretty good. However, wifi is very cheap and you can get a TP-Link Wifi connector for only $19.99, so no need to worry.

Controller:

The Xbox One X comes with an Xbox One controller. Xbox One controllers however, are automatically compatible with PCs,so this works out in your favor. The price for a stand-alone new controller at some stores who have deals is $49.99, so you can easily pick one up.

CASE;

Finally, you need a case, a case to put all you built inside of, to hold everything together, and become your tower. Fortunately the last step is the easiest these days. Nowadays, they build the cases so you can easily slot in components without much issue.

You can buy a MicroNZXT 500 case for only $69.99


CONCLUSION AND TOTAL:

When you add up all the necessities, you come to a total of $1725.91!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Xbox One X is currently at max, $399. That's over $1300 LESS than what it would cost to buy a PC with specs that exceed the Xbox One X by the bare minimum.

It is really impressive how they managed to craft such sophisticated hardware in such a way that the price is such a small factor. Truly am amazed at the Surface team, because apparently thy are the ones who made the hardware, and once again, for the third year in a row, you can't build a more powerful PC from scratch, for $400. You have to at least pay over $1700 to reach surpass it.
I'm assuming this entire post is japes and not serious. Like, you pretty much lost me saying that a GTX 1070 is the only equivalent of the XBOX's GPU when it's pretty much a custom RX580. A GPU that cost $170 bucks.
 

DForce

NaughtyDog Defense Force
One of the thing that people have stated across the internet who are PS5 and PC fanatics, is that the Xbox One X, when it was revealed in 2017, was pointless, because $500 is a lot of money and you can make a PC for cheaper. That was false then, and was equally false last year. Xbox One X is not only the best value to power ratio (VTP) but it has been a major reason for the yoy increase seen in 2018 from 2017 for sales. Some countries the One X is the best selling model despite its higher price.

Now that the Xbox One X is $399 (and with some controversial game bundles $350) it is becoming more and more the default option if you want powerful gaming.

So in laymens terms, it is not feasibly possible to build a new PC from scratch (or buy one new) that will give you the same flexibility and power of the Xbox One X (without compromise) unless you end up paying more. It is not possible to meet it at the same price, and now we will go through a step-by-step illustration at to why.

GPU and RAM:

The Xbox One X has 12 GB of GDDR5 Ram, and a heavily customized VEGA CPU with heavy feature-set protocols and translucent flexibility for optimization.

The only way you can build a PC to match that GPU is to throw in a Nvidia 1070. Of course you will need RAM as well, but you can actually beat the Xbox One outright with a 1070 with 8GB of ram instead of 12.

The Issue is a Nvidia 1070 GPU and 8GB of DDR5 is $974. Sure you can get a used one for $695, but you aren't buying a used GPU when you are buying a NEW Xbox One X.
Memory can be bought for around $80

GTX 2060 costs $350
CPU:

Due to Intel and AMD delaying on tick tock cycles, the CPU game has been a bit leafy. But now with Ryzen you can produce a cheap powerful CPU for less. The Xbox One X has good specs, but the CPU aspect is the one that's easily beaten, as its core Jaguar of 8 cycles is quite outdated.

You can get a Ryzen 2600X for $179.99, which is a pretty good price.




STORAGE/MEMORY:

With SSD's becoming cheaper, we are seeing many computers adopt SDD over HDD due to the amount of virtual ram computers take up these days, and it allows the optimization of the OS to run smoother. Since the Xbox One X isn't a console, it doesn't need such a thing as its game focused, so a 1TB HDD is fine. HDD are actually slowly becoming more expensive as companies abandon them.

However, since this is about matching the Xbox One X, we need to look at the cost of a HDD for PC builders. Which to be fair, is still cheaper than SSD's anyway, for now.

You can get a refurbished Dell 1 TB Enhanced SATA 3.5 range HDD for $129.95.

1TB harddrive for around $45.

MotherBoard:

One thing computer buyers HAVE to buy when building PC from scratch that console owners don't since it's proprietary, is a Motherboard. Without the motherboard your connections and the thing that holds your frontend and backend services together won't exist. Sure the One X has a motherboard but it's basically at no cost in comparison.

Luckily you can get a pretty cheap Motherboard for gaming. You can get a Rog Asus Stix450 for only $119.
You don't need to spend this much for a motherboard.

Power Surge Unit:

The PSU is important for cooling to make sure heat escapes and your hardware can maintain it's luster without the fear of overheating. The PSU is one of the cheaper parts to buy fortunately. One of the cheapest I can find that can match the Xbox One X efficiency and power draw is the Thermallake RGB 80, which only costs $74.

You don't need to spend this much for a PSU

Operating System:

On the Xbox One X a customized proprietary from of Windows 10 s included for free, and since it's limited due to the specific functions of a game consoles, and isn't a heavy registry backend riddled PC with running processes all over the place, it's also very cheap and easy to give for free.

However, if you build a PC you won't be so lucky. However, Windows 10 isn't too much money by itself. You can buy Windows 10 pro 64-bit edition for around $109. Which matched the 64-bit modified version on the Xbox One which is also based on the pro edition.

You can get Windows 10 for 20 bucks or less.

Wifi Connector:

Xbox One has wifi built in and the custom hardware is pretty good. However, wifi is very cheap and you can get a TP-Link Wifi connector for only $19.99, so no need to worry.

Moterhboards have build-WiFi. Also, internet gaming is free.

Controller:

The Xbox One X comes with an Xbox One controller. Xbox One controllers however, are automatically compatible with PCs,so this works out in your favor. The price for a stand-alone new controller at some stores who have deals is $49.99, so you can easily pick one up.

This isn't an Xbox. You can use any controller. Mouse and Keyboard are standard, but you can also get a cheap controller.

CASE;

Finally, you need a case, a case to put all you built inside of, to hold everything together, and become your tower. Fortunately the last step is the easiest these days. Nowadays, they build the cases so you can easily slot in components without much issue.

You can buy a MicroNZXT 500 case for only $69.99


CONCLUSION AND TOTAL:

When you add up all the necessities, you come to a total of $1725.91!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Xbox One X is currently at max, $399. That's over $1300 LESS than what it would cost to buy a PC with specs that exceed the Xbox One X by the bare minimum.

It is really impressive how they managed to craft such sophisticated hardware in such a way that the price is such a small factor. Truly am amazed at the Surface team, because apparently thy are the ones who made the hardware, and once again, for the third year in a row, you can't build a more powerful PC from scratch, for $400. You have to at least pay over $1700 to reach surpass it.

Seems like someone hasn't taken the time to build a PC before or even researched this properly. lol
 

Redneckerz

Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
This would only make sense if we factor in size. To which yes, Xbox One X is rather something. You cannot get something equally performant in that size bracket for that cost, new.

The GPU price however tells me Freedom Gate Co. Freedom Gate Co. is not exactly attempting to establish a balanced thread.

And assuming troll, the quality of it is as good as the HD-DVD: it failed to gain any momentum.
 
is freedom gate an artificial intelligence you guys have created based on gaf postings?
I think he might have started off as a serious poster. But was mocked and accused of being a troll so often that he's fully embraced the role. He used to reply to almost every dissenting voice. Now he starts a troll thread, sits back and watches for a few pages, then doubles down on the troll.
 
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