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A new year, a new Netflix price hike

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Netflix is hiking its prices once again. Starting today, the cheapest Netflix plan will cost $7.99 per month, while the top-of-the-line plan with 4K streaming will cost you a cool $24.99 monthly.

Netflix’s latest price increase​


Here are the details of the impending Netflix price increase, which impacts all three of its plans:
  • Standard with ads: $7.99 (up from $6.99) per month
  • Standard without ads: $17.99 (up from $15.49) per month
  • Premium: $24.99 (up from $22.99) per month

The price increases affect users in the United States, Canada, Portugal and Argentina.

In a letter to shareholders today, Netflix said the price increase will let it continue to invest in programming:

As we continue to invest in programming and deliver more value for our members, we will occasionally ask our members to pay a little more so that we can re-invest to further improve Netflix. To that end, we are adjusting prices today across most plans in the US, Canada, Portugal and Argentina.

Netflix’s latest price increase comes the same day the company reported monster earnings for Q4 2024. The streaming service added 18.9 million new subscribers in the quarter, beating analyst expectations of 9.6 million additions. It now has a whopping 302 million paid subscribers around the world.

Netflix also reported revenue of $10.25 billion, beating estimates of $10.11 billion. Earnings-per-share came in at $4.28, compared to estimates of $4.20. It also declared a $15 billion share buyback program.


Netflix last increased its prices in October 2023, when the Premium tier increased from $19.99 to $22.99 monthly. Shortly thereafter, Netflix discontinued its popular ad-free Basic subscription. This served as an effective price increase for anyone wanting an ad-free Netflix experience, raising the ad-free floor from $11.99 to $15.49 per month (now $17.99 with today’s price hike).

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It's a fucking scam. Record earnings and still they raise prices by roughly 10% (much higher than inflation).
 
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LordCBH

Member
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Not too surprising to see a company raise prices and will continue to until there is a substantial decline. Their monthly fee is whatever most are willing to pay and obviously hasn't reached a breaking point yet.
 

Fbh

Member
Damn I pay like $6 for it in my country (it's a $12 shared plan I split with my sister) and still often think about dropping it.
Can't imagine paying $18 for it.
 

Paltheos

Member
Just to rub some salt into the wound, Netflix was substantially more profitable in 2024 than 2023. From their (unaudited) income statement:

(in thousands)
20242023
Revenue$39,000,966$33,723,297
Operating Income$10,417,614$6,954,003
Net Income$8,711,631$5,407,990

Pretty favorable operating and profit margins, both of which are big steps up from the year prior.
 

jakinov

Member
Whether or not you personally like the content Netflix. Netflix as a service is great value for the price for the general consumer. Netflix releases a new shows and movies almost every week. That's in addition to all the comedy specials, live events, documentaries, and games. People used to pay $13-15 ($20-25 depending on how you adjust for inflation) just to get access to HBO to watch a movie on a schedule and a bit of TV on a schedule at 480P-720P. Netflix top plan today which offers up to 4K HDR cost $23 bucks to watch all the stuff I mentioned on-demand. Again even if you personally don't like it, a lot of people do, Netflix engagement on their content stomps that of their competitors.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Just to rub some salt into the wound, Netflix was substantially more profitable in 2024 than 2023. From their (unaudited) income statement:

(in thousands)
20242023
Revenue$39,000,966$33,723,297
Operating Income$10,417,614$6,954,003
Net Income$8,711,631$5,407,990

Pretty favorable operating and profit margins, both of which are big steps up from the year prior.
Crazy. Rev up about $5.3B. Net Income up $3.3B. I dont follow the company, but whatever critical mass business strategies and sub plan gains thy are doing are practically going right to the bottom line.
 

jakinov

Member
Just to rub some salt into the wound, Netflix was substantially more profitable in 2024 than 2023. From their (unaudited) income statement:

(in thousands)
20242023
Revenue$39,000,966$33,723,297
Operating Income$10,417,614$6,954,003
Net Income$8,711,631$5,407,990

Pretty favorable operating and profit margins, both of which are big steps up from the year prior.
They told investors they are using the extra money to re-invest into the business to add more value. Which they've historically done by expanding their output of shows, moving into movies, expanding movies, games, etc. They've explicitly said that the cycle normally goes, elevated churn due to price hike, re-invest revenue, value goes up, most people come back and even more people sign up because the service now offers more.
 

Mr Reasonable

Completely Unreasonable
It's a fucking scam. Record earnings and still they raise prices by roughly 10% (much higher than inflation).
I haven't paid attention and I'm not a Netflix subscriber so I don't care, but aren't they a company that was just burning through investor cash for years, losing money constantly?

To that end, is it a scam or just time for those who bankrolled the company to get paid?
 

MayauMiao

Member
Well seeing how I barely touch Netflix I wouldn't mind stop monthly subscription and subscribe for a month 2-3 times per year. I've got plenty of cheaper alternatives to pick, Netflix price increase made it easier.
 

ReBurn

Gold Member
Well seeing how I barely touch Netflix I wouldn't mind stop monthly subscription and subscribe for a month 2-3 times per year. I've got plenty of cheaper alternatives to pick, Netflix price increase made it easier.
It's the way to do it. No need to keep multiple services going.
 

Paltheos

Member
They told investors they are using the extra money to re-invest into the business to add more value. Which they've historically done by expanding their output of shows, moving into movies, expanding movies, games, etc. They've explicitly said that the cycle normally goes, elevated churn due to price hike, re-invest revenue, value goes up, most people come back and even more people sign up because the service now offers more.

This isn't consistent with their income statement and balance sheet, at least for 2024. Their total increase in operating expenses amounted to $1.8B, but stock buybacks (changes in treasury stock) totaled $6.2B.*

*Calculated from the same source as my previous post
 

Quasicat

Member
Well seeing how I barely touch Netflix I wouldn't mind stop monthly subscription and subscribe for a month 2-3 times per year. I've got plenty of cheaper alternatives to pick, Netflix price increase made it easier.
That’s where I’m at. I do have a Plex server, but once every 6 months I’ll subscribe to something and watch the exclusive stuff. I just finished Disney Plus for the Star Wars Skeleton Crew show and will see what’s going on in June to see what I’ll subscribe to next.
 

jakinov

Member
This isn't consistent with their income statement and balance sheet, at least for 2024. Their total increase in operating expenses amounted to $1.8B, but stock buybacks (changes in treasury stock) totaled $6.2B.*

*Calculated from the same source as my previous post
I don't think you can look at those two aggregates to paint an accurate picture here of whether or not they are using the extra revenue to re-invest. Business expenses can go down for various reasons such as investment in technology, cutting costs, etc. The money from stock buy backs can also come from cash and it's value can be driven up by stock prices going up like they have been. There's also a lot of nuance here with timing, offsetting the churn, what regions are effected, what plans are effected and the pricing in that individual region.

My point is that historically Netflix has told investors it's not just free money for these price increases but that they'll reinvest the money to increase value of the service to customers like they said today. When Netflix was $10-$15 bucks it didn't have a first-run movie and tv show coming out every weeks with random comedy specials and live events. There's a big difference in the value proposition today versus when it was cheaper.
 

Rival

Gold Member
We have the pheasant ad tier and it’s actually not too bad. I’m getting older so I use the ads to take a pee break.
 

Jsisto

Member
Wow this reminds me I really should cancel my netflix. I hardly ever even use it and mostly just watch stuff on YouTube nowadays. I bet they make bank off of passive Netflix subscribers like myself that barely use it but never cancel it because it doesn’t break bank.

Edit: Done. Thanks for sharing this.
 
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