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[MAtgS]

Yes this is important, the worlds we will see in KH4 will most likely be stuff we've never seen before, because of where sora / the story is now. However, I still don't want Star Wars / Marvel lol The worlds could be fun yeah, but... I still think they would feel off, and also we see Star Wars / Marvel everywhere now, so KH would feel less authentic with these, less original. I just don't want for KH to feel like Fortnite with too much random stuff. Even if it might seem like it's already the case for people looking at it from a distance, KH managed to still feel quite consistent so far.

The way I see it, if SW and Marvel don't belong, then neither does Nightmare Before Christmas. I didn't even knew NBC was a Disney production before KH1. It was utterly atypical of Disney and distributed under the Touchstone label instead.

Of course, you never see KH fans complain about it. No one ever rightfully call out how it's out of place with all of the other Disney worlds. Funny that.

 

[March Climber]

The fact that people have a hard time figuring out the story even after playing the game and watching recaps means its shit and no amount of fanboy drivel around here will prove me wrong.

No one on this site is going to. You put on your boxing gear just to show up at the wrong ring lol.

 

[The Cockatrice]

No one on this site is going to

You'd be surprised.

 

[Kenpachii]

I think what a lot of are overlooking is that Sora's not in the regular KH universe anymore. He's in "the real world" or whatever's passing for such in this story. If would kinda kill the point of him being isolated & far away from his home if he just goes to the same old animated Disney worlds as usual. KH4's worlds pretty much have to categorically different from any that have appear before. They have to be Disney properties that would not have appeared before.

Plus he's all live-action looking now. This is not a Sora that you put in 2D animated worlds. No, this looks like a Sora who's going to be hanging around Live action worlds, lots of them.

For all the fans who say Star Wars & Marvel don't belong in KH, Square has essentially addressed that by purposefully creating a new setting where they can.



The pragmatic answer is Square realized they can do their own crossovers without having to involve the mouse. Dissidia, Theatrhytham, Record Keeper, World of Final Fantasy, Strangers of Paradise. The increase in direct sequels and remakes. & no paying royalties to Disney for any of it. On the KH side, they've basically replaced FF characters with more originals. Hayner/Pence/Olette effectively took the place of Tidus/Wakka/Selphie as "those 3 friends at home". Diz & his apprentices replaced Leon & company as the faces of Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden. There ain't a need for more FF cameps anymore.

In short, FF & KH "outgrew" eachother.

I can see them going for starwars/guardians to attract new audiences. Do we even know if kingdom hearts 3 sold anything well or was it a massive bomb?

 

[March Climber]

You'd be surprised.

They'd mainly be defending the quality of the gameplay, which I also was fond of when playing the series. It's fun but we all know the story can be very overly convoluted and anime-esque. It's been 20 years at this point.

Somewhere like Reddit or Gamefaqs might still have those plot defenders you're seeking.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

I loved 1 and 2, so I tried playing 3 but I have no nostalgia for pixar outside of toy story. and ended up just dropping it midway through.

Both the combat and story were very dissapointing.

I had to force myself to get to the end, just to see how all this mess would wrap up.
Skipping basically all the spin-offs and returning to the series after the 13(!) years since KH2 didn't help things, admittedly.
Anyway, I had never seen a story pull SIX deus ex machinas in the span of an hour. And of course the damn thing isn't over.

The pragmatic answer is Square realized they can do their own crossovers without having to involve the mouse. Dissidia, Theatrhytham, Record Keeper, World of Final Fantasy, Strangers of Paradise. The increase in direct sequels and remakes. & no paying royalties to Disney for any of it. On the KH side, they've basically replaced FF characters with more originals. Hayner/Pence/Olette effectively took the place of Tidus/Wakka/Selphie as "those 3 friends at home". Diz & his apprentices replaced Leon & company as the faces of Hollow Bastion/Radiant Garden. There ain't a need for more FF cameps anymore.

In short, FF & KH "outgrew" each other.

Great take! After all, KH came out at the highest of the FF craze. At the time, the crossover was mindblowing. And let's face it, KH2 could be ridiculously epic if you were the right age. That multi-phase final battle was all the shades of crazy.

Unfortunately they felt the need to dilute the whole thing into the most convoluted manga drivel with all the spin-offs.
I never finished Chain of Memories, but I watched the cutscenes and it's worse (not to mention longer) than I imagined.
On the bright side, some of the writers do have some self-consciousness. Sometimes a character would have a dig at Sora and his ridiculously one-way dedication.

Oh well, we got a treasure trove of good game music and a good rhythm game out of the whole thing, at least.

 

[Chuck Berry]

 

[peronmls]

I remember when the FFv13 trailer was revealed

Not the same team.

 

[Loomy]

Not the same team.

Pretty much is.

Kitase as the manager of the overall group, with Tetsuya Nomura as director of the game. There's been some reshuffling, but the two leads are still there.

Also not saying the same thing is going to happen to this game, but Versus 13 is the game that taught me until the release date is ~ a month away, the game might as well not exist.

 

[Krappadizzle]

I thought it looked really cool when it released years ago, but I was waiting for a Steam release to pick it up.