Mammoth Jones
Member
Ah, public school, public funds. Makes sense. Thank you.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Actual Nazi Richard Spencer protested at A&M speaking engagement
- Thread starter EdibleKnife
- Start date
- Status
Ah, public school, public funds. Makes sense. Thank you.
The university has known this event was going to take place for about a month. I work at a university, and this has been covered pretty widely in InsideHigherEd and The Chronicle of Higher Education.
The folks telling you that it was out of A&M's hands are absolutely correct. The president of the university led a counter-event elsewhere on campus, which was the right thing to do.
There are plenty of measures that could have been taken to help interfere and make it difficult for him to hold this speaking engagement. Turn the lights off, whatever. Protecting the 1st amendment is not more important than protecting common human decency.
I'm glad to hear their was a counter event. Wish that got more light shined on it.
Well since they'd lose their funding it's probably important to them and I'd also say freedom of speech is even more important when the alt-right and Donald Trump are in charge otherwise they could haul us all away
GoldenEye 007
Member
"...Shall not be infringed." They'd get sued and lose badly.
notworksafe
Member
Protecting the 1st amendment absolutely stands above disallowing any speaker I disagree with booking space there.
All of those will probably end in a lawsuit where this piece of shit gets a payday and eventually ends up speaking there anyway.
The law needs to be amended for these kind of instances.
Imagining a hypothetical situation and then getting upset about how it was hypothetically resolved is pointless.
I'm a liberal Texan and a UT grad, I have no love for A&M, but I really don't think they're the bad guy here.
D
Deleted member 20415
Unconfirmed Member
You can't ban speech, you can find loopholes though.
You don't want additional laws to abridge speech, lest they be used as weapons later.
The first amendment protects speech, regardless of content, however unpopular may be. This example is the best our country has - shitty guy speaks, people protest.
What I think should be drawn into question is using police force to stop protest... that's a greater question.
Yeah I'm seeing that now as I learn more about it
Skellig Gra
Member
Everything's bigger in Texas. Including free speech for Nazis.
cheezcake
Member
"White people built the pyramids"
I just can't guys, did this guy watch that Ridley Scott Egypt movie and think it was historically accurate?
Red Liquorice
Member
What a fucking cunt. Tripping over his own bumbling dumbass answers.
Tallshortman
Member
Interfering blatantly in the event would, in court, be very similar to simply denying him. As much as I'm disgusted by his idealogy, I don't agree with throwing aside the first amendment, which is what trump has threatened to do.
As I'm learning more about this, I'm right there with you. The amount of coverage this fuckwit is getting from the media is problematic.
EstoyBlackWaldo
Member
Wow, this guy is a moron.
"Do you know who created Affirmative Action?"
"I don't know white people probably."
Red Liquorice
Member
http://today.tamu.edu/2016/11/23/no...rsial-speaker-university-officials-emphasize/
They commented on that, with the presidents official response here: http://www.kbtx.com/content/news/AM...t-Announces-Aggie-United-event-403649946.html
They neither invite nor support the man, but as a public university they are not legally allowed to block him from renting a room to speak just because of his views. He only got 400 people and I heard that only 12 of those supported him. The rest were hecklers. The student body as a whole was enraged about the man.
So A&M set up a counter event to protest this Nazi asshole
and my friend who is in the sociology department at A&M set up their own event to counter the visit as well
radios shipping overview
Member
The only good Nazi is a...
"We do Nazi salutes in the spirit of fun". Lol. Truly embarrassing that he was given a platform at a university.
JordanN
Banned
I couldn't make it past 5 mins.
"Are you proud to be American?"
"Yes"
"Do you believe America should have beat Nazi Germany in WW2?"
"I wish that we avoided that conflict."
White supremacists are literally worse than comic book villains.
I see some of your countrymen are still jerking off to that Manifest Destiny dream eh?
The point stands.
EstoyBlackWaldo
Member
Cut that interview off at 24 minute mark.
This boy really gonna ask if Egyptians and South Africans are actually "African" though, foh.
This boy really gonna ask if Egyptians and South Africans are actually "African" though, foh.
I'm pretty sure there's no right to be heard. Guy can say what he wants but no public institution is forced to host him and his abhorrent ideas.
Wow. This is really amazing throughout. Interviewer calls him out on so many things with succinctness and cold hard facts.
There needs to be laws about this kind of hate speech. It shouldn't be legal to promulgate these beliefs at a University, public or not.
Admiral Woofington
Member
Thanks for this manhttp://today.tamu.edu/2016/11/23/no...rsial-speaker-university-officials-emphasize/
They commented on that, with the presidents official response here: http://www.kbtx.com/content/news/AM...t-Announces-Aggie-United-event-403649946.html
They neither invite nor support the man, but as a public university they are not legally allowed to block him from renting a room to speak just because of his views. He only got 400 people and I heard that only 12 of those supported him. The rest were hecklers. The student body as a whole was enraged about the man.
So A&M set up a counter event to protest this Nazi asshole
and my friend who is in the sociology department at A&M set up their own event to counter the visit as well
Texas A&M may not be perfect but the immediate assumption we're pro Nazi or uncaring was an attitude that is undeserved.
Ironically it also makes them forget about Mexico
"This is the problem when you are a smart black man who can read"
I love this man. Where have you been my whole life?
NobleXenon
Member
Culture Christian - that perfectly sums up most of modern Christianity.
Thank you Roland Martin for that term.
Raven117
Member
Oh come on my fellow Aggie! Actually, Im a little proud of the entire thing actually. Let's get one thing straight...what Spencer is and what he stands for is deplorable...no question...no shades of grey...nada....its terrible.
However, due to the rules of Texas A&M he was able to use that space to spill his vile ideas. That's freedom of speech. It sucks...we don't like it...but that's what it is.
I also could not be more proud of the student Aggies who protested (also the First Amendment) demonstrating this has no place anywhere.
All around pretty "Good Bull" (except the asshole who actually spoke).
Edit: and that Texas A&M fighting Nazi sign is pretty bad ass.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Do I listen to Richard Spencer or Richard Spencer?
EDIT:
Don't you fucking put those words in my mouth you rotten piece of shit.
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked