Fallout-NL
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Yeah I'm definitely hoping this is going to be a success, cause it sets a very interesting pricing precedent.
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Alan Wake's American Nightmare |OT| Not a lake, a primordial ocean.
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NotMyUsername
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You seem to match my feelings the closest for the original. What did you not like about the first one? The Giant Bomb Quick Look made this one actually look a lot quicker and more enjoyable but I'm not sure if it's enough that I'd really enjoy it. If what you disliked is similar to my thoughts and this game is good enough to overlook them then perhaps I should just suck it up and buy it.
Honestly I disliked just about everything from the first game and it's one of my go-to answers when someone asks if I've ever forced myself through a game I didn't like. I beat it but I absolutely HATED the story by the end and also really didn't enjoy combat that much and learned to have "fun" by challenging myself to run as often as possible and ignore as many enemies as possible. The atmosphere, graphics, and sound were the best part of the first game but for me it wasn't fun to actually play and the story only made me angrier.
25 of my friends online last night and I'm the only one playing it. Sad.
played for several hours last night so i thought i'd share some of my own thoughts...
+ graphics are top notch and even slightly better then the already stunning AW. its a touch sharper, the lighting on wake himself looks much improved, and the environment lighting has far less artifacts that were present in AW.
+ story is pretty awesome, with lots of depth added to the AW and DLC story. also, clues of things to come for the series with Mr. Scratch's, Barry's, and Alice's doings while Wake is away.
+ combat is more varied and fun. love what the splitters and grenadiers bring to battles. the new weapons are super awesome to use and feel great - i love the smg, nail gun, and assault rifle! hope Alan is able to write them into existence in AW3
+ the setting is really well done. i wasnt sure the arizona desert would be that nice to explore, but its both varied and lovely. the hub style structure is much better for exploration and immersion. Hope AW3 takes it even further in this route as its a nice bridge between the gap of truly open world and keeping the player immersed with the pacing of the story.
+ big HELL YEAH to the option to remove the HUD. the game is sooo much better when you dont have a mini map to walk you through the game. i cant imagine the people that have 100% the game and finished in 4-6 hours are playing with this off.
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- difficulty, or lack there of. ammo is soooo plentiful that you never have to use it cautiously. its everywhere, and respawns too. i cant for the life of me figure out why there is no selectable difficulty.
... aaand thats it for complaints. seriously, awesome f-ing game, cant believe this is an arcade title for $15. super excited to see how it will wrap up and what it will mean for AW3. also, havent even checked out the arcade mode, but that should be quite fun too
+ graphics are top notch and even slightly better then the already stunning AW. its a touch sharper, the lighting on wake himself looks much improved, and the environment lighting has far less artifacts that were present in AW.
+ story is pretty awesome, with lots of depth added to the AW and DLC story. also, clues of things to come for the series with Mr. Scratch's, Barry's, and Alice's doings while Wake is away.
+ combat is more varied and fun. love what the splitters and grenadiers bring to battles. the new weapons are super awesome to use and feel great - i love the smg, nail gun, and assault rifle! hope Alan is able to write them into existence in AW3
+ the setting is really well done. i wasnt sure the arizona desert would be that nice to explore, but its both varied and lovely. the hub style structure is much better for exploration and immersion. Hope AW3 takes it even further in this route as its a nice bridge between the gap of truly open world and keeping the player immersed with the pacing of the story.
+ big HELL YEAH to the option to remove the HUD. the game is sooo much better when you dont have a mini map to walk you through the game. i cant imagine the people that have 100% the game and finished in 4-6 hours are playing with this off.
- (dont read if you havent gotten past the drive in section)
not a fan of the time loop dealio. the story aspect of it is fine, but i hate the recycled environments and even recycled fetch quests.
... aaand thats it for complaints. seriously, awesome f-ing game, cant believe this is an arcade title for $15. super excited to see how it will wrap up and what it will mean for AW3. also, havent even checked out the arcade mode, but that should be quite fun too
Totally agree with this! I was grinning the whole time during the parts where this played. So well done, just loved it.
I'm hoping they use the music in the Arcade mode, but after playing the first stage, I get the sense they didn't.
Man, am I loving this game though. It's just such a great setting and the presentation just adds so much to the overall experience. I just can't get enough.
Can't wait to get home, grab my nail-gun, and continue Alan's quest. Need to find me some more manuscripts though. I've only been able to open one weapon-case so far.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
I really hope AN does well. I'm quite loving the game so far. Alan Wake is definitely one of my favourite series as this point.
Did anyone tried to play in 720p to see if the frame-rate is better? I'll try it later to see of there's any difference, I have only played on 1080p thus far and while there is tearing it's definitely not worse than the first game.
CrazedArabMan
Member
I noticed a tad bit of tearing yesterday with smart on, but I could really care less as I don't really notice it when playing, it was only when I tried to notice to see if it had it and I was like, oh. Doesn't effect the game at all for me.
oddly, most of the tearing i've seen is in parts of the game interacting with NPCs, and not in big fire fights - though, to be truthful, i'm not super sensitive to tearing and it may be that i just am not as likely to notice then as i'm frantically fighting for my life!
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Deleted member 13876
Unconfirmed Member
Hey all,
Glad to hear you guys like the game. A lot of effort went into it
Can you elaborate on this? We've seen a few similar reports and are trying to figure out what the problem is. It could be just a temporary LIVE issue, where retrying a few minutes later should work again, but if the problem persists we'd obv want to get it fixed asap.
Also, it would be great to hear from anyone having issues whether which region they're from (you can PM me and I'll pass the info forward).
Glad to hear you guys like the game. A lot of effort went into it
Can you elaborate on this? We've seen a few similar reports and are trying to figure out what the problem is. It could be just a temporary LIVE issue, where retrying a few minutes later should work again, but if the problem persists we'd obv want to get it fixed asap.
Also, it would be great to hear from anyone having issues whether which region they're from (you can PM me and I'll pass the info forward).
Oh, and for any music fans. High quality versions at:
http://itunes.apple.com/fi/album/balance-slays-demon-single/id504527241
http://itunes.apple.com/fi/album/happy-song-american-nightmare/id504527107
I think both tracks are awesome
http://itunes.apple.com/fi/album/balance-slays-demon-single/id504527241
http://itunes.apple.com/fi/album/happy-song-american-nightmare/id504527107
I think both tracks are awesome
Ravensmash
Member
Rushing through my replay of the original still - such a great game, and cannot wait for this.
How many people are listed on the leaderboards at present?
How many people are listed on the leaderboards at present?
CrazedArabMan
Member
Hey all,
Glad to hear you guys like the game. A lot of effort went into it
Can really tell, the game looks great, much more polished in the graphics (well since you had time to fix them since the first game) looking forward to AW2.
Also, don't know if you can answer this as this is more of a fan question per say, but did you guys think about doing co-op for arcade mode or are you aware that it is something that if you were to do this mode again, that it might be something you would look toward?
It's so confusing to see Alan Wake in ads like this here in Finland:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqiE0WiinyE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqiE0WiinyE&feature=related
Phonomezer
Banned
Say hi to Hotskari
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Deleted member 13876
Unconfirmed Member
About 10k. I think a lot of people are still doing the single player still so I'm not sure how indicative it is of initial sales, but I really hope it does well.
A co-op arcade mode could work. Maybe have Barry and Alan be able to set up light traps to help each other and do combo attacks by crossing the streams and such. I can imagine it would be hard to balance though as the combat is very timing sensitive. Most of the tension comes from being out of battery, not being able to dodge when surrounded and having to reload at crucial moments so having someone there to cover those timing gaps would mitigate those factors a bit too much with the way things are balanced now.
That ad is canon as far as I'm concerned.
Petri is not at RMD anymore, but I guess he still has good contacts. So yeah, say hi to him from GAF
edit: or is he? I am confused, isn't he at rovio now?
plagiarize
Banned
Petri is not at RMD anymore, but I guess he still has good contacts. So yeah, say hi to him from GAF
edit: or is he? I am confused, isn't he at rovio now?
i thought he said he was still on the board, even though it isn't his full time job anymore?
Shake Appeal
Member
I am going to buy the shit out of this.
petethepanda
Member
The way dialogue scenes are shot/composed is strangely terrible. Bad to the point of wondering if there is some actual reason for it.
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Deleted member 13876
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Probably just budget shortcuts. That was probably my biggest issue with the game too. Everything felt very polished except for that detail. Pressing B to hear the next lines of dialog while standing at an awkward angle from the character felt sloppy in contrast with everything else.
As for the music, I really loved that Happy Song from Poets of the Fall, but felt it was a bit wasted maybe. It sets a great mood but the encounter it's used in can be completed in 10-30 seconds upon which the music abruptly ends. The song feels like a theme song for Mr Scratch and I think it could have been used to a much better extent by like having it be played during a moment where Mr Scratch appears really powerful and Alan has to rush to stop him from doing something like making another victim. It really has that frantic, demented feel and tying gameplay urgency to it like a timed event would have made it much more powerful.
desertdroog
Member
Since this takes place in Arizona, if Remedy does any more with the Southwest desert, may I recommend sourcing the band Calexico for a song, if contracts allow for it.
plagiarize
Banned
25% more pixels isn't bad to be honest. FXAA+MSAA is something a few of us are big fans of (even if some don't see the sense of the combining the two).
That and the tearing i've been having are the only negatives. And it probably was due to budget.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Neither of these two bug me at all really. It's really the first XBLA game I've ever played, and it's impressing the hell out of me.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Really love the game so far, just wish it didn't repeat the environments so much. I guess it was a budget or size thing.
higherARC05
Banned
4xMSAA + FXAA
OMG Let this be the standard for all future games. HALO 4 with this would be MAGICALLY.
dr3upmushroom
Banned
Is the Arcade thing anything like Mercenaries? I looove Mercs, and score attack games in general. Alan Wake has always seemed pretty interesting to me, and $15 for a taste of the game along with an arcadey score attack mode is really appealing to me. Is the arcade kind of a throwaway bonus or are the controls and feel good enough that you'll play it competitively?
How standalone is the campaign part? Will I be totally lost without having played the first game? I'm already playing a few other games at the moment, so I'm not going to get the first and plow through it just to get ready for a 4-hour XBLA game. If the arcade mode is fun that'll probably be enough to justify the price for me anyway, but is AM a whole new story or a continuation/ epilogue kind of thing?
How standalone is the campaign part? Will I be totally lost without having played the first game? I'm already playing a few other games at the moment, so I'm not going to get the first and plow through it just to get ready for a 4-hour XBLA game. If the arcade mode is fun that'll probably be enough to justify the price for me anyway, but is AM a whole new story or a continuation/ epilogue kind of thing?
Eh, the tearing was in the original too. Game still looks damn impressive. First XBLA game? Man, theres a lot you've missed unless you played the best (Bastion, etc) on PC.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Haven't touched XBLA other than to download some DLC for a couple SP titles I have. My Xbox mostly goes untouched.
Beat it last night. Loved it. But I adore the series. I liked the first game a bit more, but this is a steal at $15. Amazing.
Graphically, the game has a higher resolution, but I actually like how the first game looks more. I like a bit of blur in my games.
I was slightly annoyed by the
Also, the crossbow/ sawed off is easily the best weapon combo.
Need to get stuck into arcade mode now.
Graphically, the game has a higher resolution, but I actually like how the first game looks more. I like a bit of blur in my games.
I was slightly annoyed by the
recycling of the same 3 levels.
Couldn't they have had the 3 levels, but each loop unlocks a certain section?
Couldn't they have had the 3 levels, but each loop unlocks a certain section?
Also, the crossbow/ sawed off is easily the best weapon combo.
Need to get stuck into arcade mode now.
higherARC05
Banned
4xMSAA + FXAA does its job very well.
This is probably the best AA solution on consoles I've seen.
If it was 720p, yes. But I think 720p, 2xMSAA and ppAA(not aggressive, something like ACR) would work even better.
Fudgepuppy
Banned
Just completed if after a marathon-session.
I don't really know what to think. It's a bit "out there" and bit too outlandish for me who loved Alan Wake.
Gonna have to chew on this experience for weeks before I formulate an opinion.
I don't really know what to think. It's a bit "out there" and bit too outlandish for me who loved Alan Wake.
Gonna have to chew on this experience for weeks before I formulate an opinion.
GazzaScotland
Member
Finally got round to finishing the DLC for AW so will pick this up tomorrow. More Alan Wake, is always welcome!
Phonomezer
Banned
Put about 1.5 hours into it, love it.
Dat lighting.
Dat lighting.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
This game is fucking awesome.
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Just finished the observatory for the second time and now I'm at the Drive-In... Again
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Holy shit! I just listened to the radio in the office again! That was awesome! Love how they change every experience up even though you're playing through the same map again!
UpperCaseN
Member
I love this game. I made a little too much progress for comfort today; I like to pace myself to prolong the experience. Ever play so much of a game where you kind of space out? I refuse to let this happen to me anymore.
So far I've been primarily a 1 weapon guy. I've played with everything I came across but it always goes straight back to SMG. I've got enough manuscript pages for some of the bigger weapons now, just need to stumble across those chests again.
Music, atmosphere, everything about this game is great! No one on my friends list is playing, though.
I'm really impressed by the shadows the flashlight casts. if you shine the light through a car, you actually get like an outline of the car where the light travels through the windows but not through the solid parts. I'm worried that this is going unnoticed, because it's awesome and should be pointed out.
So far I've been primarily a 1 weapon guy. I've played with everything I came across but it always goes straight back to SMG. I've got enough manuscript pages for some of the bigger weapons now, just need to stumble across those chests again.
Music, atmosphere, everything about this game is great! No one on my friends list is playing, though.
I'm really impressed by the shadows the flashlight casts. if you shine the light through a car, you actually get like an outline of the car where the light travels through the windows but not through the solid parts. I'm worried that this is going unnoticed, because it's awesome and should be pointed out.