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'Ali G' Comedian Risks Riot at U.S. Rodeo
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AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
I do too.
Alex Anderson
Member
I assume he did this as the Borat character?
I want Season 2 on DVD already, dangit.
I want Season 2 on DVD already, dangit.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
android said:
That accent and voice he does for him is hysterical. A product of genius -- which Sasha Baron actually is...I've read up on the guy's test grades and the schools he attended. Holy shit is he fucking smart.
Tenacious-V
Thinks his PR is better than yours.
I love Ali G, but he had to have been Borat while pulling that skit off.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Tenacious-V said:
He was. Read the whole article.
Tenacious-V
Thinks his PR is better than yours.
AlphaSnake said:
That would require clicking.....
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Damn.
And I thought Bam Maguera and Steve-O risked it all for comedy...
And I thought Bam Maguera and Steve-O risked it all for comedy...
BobbyRobby
Member
Ali G is the greatest.
Throw the Jew Down The Well
In my country there is problem,
And that problem is transport.
It take very very long,
Because Kazakhstan is big.
Throw transport down the well,
So my country can be free.
We must make travel easy,
Then we have big party!
In my country there is problem,
And that problem is the Jew.
They take everybody's money,
They never give it back.
Throw the Jew down the well,
So my country can be free.
You must grab him by his horns,
Then we have big party.
If you see the Jew coming,
You must be careful of his teeth.
You must grab him by his money,
And I tell you what to do...
Everybody!
Throw the Jew down the well
So my country can be free
You must grab him by his horns
Then we have big party
Throw the Jew down the well
So my country can be free
You must grab him by his horns
Then we have big party!
In my country there is problem,
And that problem is transport.
It take very very long,
Because Kazakhstan is big.
Throw transport down the well,
So my country can be free.
We must make travel easy,
Then we have big party!
In my country there is problem,
And that problem is the Jew.
They take everybody's money,
They never give it back.
Throw the Jew down the well,
So my country can be free.
You must grab him by his horns,
Then we have big party.
If you see the Jew coming,
You must be careful of his teeth.
You must grab him by his money,
And I tell you what to do...
Everybody!
Throw the Jew down the well
So my country can be free
You must grab him by his horns
Then we have big party
Throw the Jew down the well
So my country can be free
You must grab him by his horns
Then we have big party!
Shogmaster
Member
I don't mind professing that I found his movie hilarious as well. :lol
Cerebral Palsy
Banned
He his funny, but the gimmick gets old kind of fast. I still enjoy his show though.
I liked the one where he's Bruno and he tells them jock blokes (wrestlers) to spell something out and he keeps saying that its not good enough (then one jumps off the roof of the caravan :lol) then he tells them that they're doing it for Austria's gay community and they get all pissed off.
You have to see it but its so funny.
:lol
-SB
You have to see it but its so funny.
:lol
-SB
lilraylewis
Member
:lol I love that song.My F*cking Grandpa said:
Here it is with the video.
www.ThrowTheJewDownTheWell.com
I have to admit, when I saw an episode where Cohen is Ali G, talking to some Law Enforcement officer about narcotics, and he's asking which are ok, and which are illegal (they were all illegal), I laughed out loud. The look on the officer's face when Ali asked him how much he could get on the street for a sac was mint.
However, poking fun at celebrities and officials is one thing. Saying stuff that he knows is going to incite anger in a large crowd is stupid. What he said to that rodeo crowd was rediculously foolish, and would have been offensive to most anyone there, no matter their political standpoint.
I always have a problem with stuff like this, and some of the skits on the Chapelle Show (another show that I really enjoy, ironically), because they like to dance on that line between dark comedy and offensiveness. I never find the racial "humor" humorous, because when it comes down to it, it simply shows that prejudice and racism are still very much a dominant part of society. Its only a matter of time before someone takes a joke too far - a white comedian talks about how to make a black man a slave, using a pair of Jordans, a 20-inch Spreewell rim, and a chicken leg. Or a black comedian who's found a great mexican cleaning product called "'Spic' & Span."
I can enjoy political and prejudical humor, but personally, Ali took it too far this time.
However, poking fun at celebrities and officials is one thing. Saying stuff that he knows is going to incite anger in a large crowd is stupid. What he said to that rodeo crowd was rediculously foolish, and would have been offensive to most anyone there, no matter their political standpoint.
I always have a problem with stuff like this, and some of the skits on the Chapelle Show (another show that I really enjoy, ironically), because they like to dance on that line between dark comedy and offensiveness. I never find the racial "humor" humorous, because when it comes down to it, it simply shows that prejudice and racism are still very much a dominant part of society. Its only a matter of time before someone takes a joke too far - a white comedian talks about how to make a black man a slave, using a pair of Jordans, a 20-inch Spreewell rim, and a chicken leg. Or a black comedian who's found a great mexican cleaning product called "'Spic' & Span."
I can enjoy political and prejudical humor, but personally, Ali took it too far this time.
How a joke was meant to be taken has nothing to do with how someone reacts to it.Minotauro said:
I mean I could make a joke. Now if I *meant* the joke to be funny, but nobody laughed, then is it their fault? I'm making the joke and I want people to think it's funny, if they don't then the failiure is MINE, not theirs.
The same exact thing applies to this case.
You make a joke. Now you *meant* for that joke to not offend anybody, but it did. Whose fault? Yours, for not knowing your audience.
I'm not saying that you shouldn't make jokes that someone somewhere won't take offense to, but to blame the person being offended for being offended is stupid.
Azih said:
Actually, it has everything to do with it.
Azih said:
There's a fundamental difference to someone reacting to a joke by laughing and reacting to one by being offended. One is an involuntary act and one is not. You choose whether you're offended by something or not. You don't choose whether you find something humorous enough to laugh at it. If the intent was not to be offensive, then the blame for taking offense should be placed on the audience, not the comedian.
We've strayed a bit from the original topic and my argument applies doesn't really in this specific case because the people he was performing in front of weren't actually the intended audience for the joke in the first place. The joke was for the eventual home audience. The people who reacted by nearly rioting did just what they were supposed to do. Now, if someone from the home audience was offended by watching this, I would have argument with that.
Azih said:
Why? They have biases that prevent them from seeing the humor in something that was in no way intended to be malicious towards them.
Tenacious-V
Thinks his PR is better than yours.
What's really funny is what he does to make Borat so convincing...he wears the same suit every time and......he doesn't wash it!!!! So Borat really really smells.
I also love how as Borat he can never get through a door properly. Every time.
I also love how as Borat he can never get through a door properly. Every time.
They're both involuntary. Sure you could *condition* me to not find something offensive, just as you could *condition* me to find something funny. But they're both instant gut reactions though.Minotauro said:
I mean really dude, If someone came up to you and went 'yo momma so slutty, I fucked her up the ass last night' you don't go 'hrmm, should I be offended, or not be offended?'. It doesn't matter one whit what the guy meant. Hell maybe he just grew up around guys who made those kinda jokes all the time.
Your rules are getting a mite bit complicated. So it's ok to be offended if the person intended the joke for someone else but if it was intended for you you shouldn't be offended? You're expecting the audience to be freaking mind readers here. I don't care *what* your intent was if you say something to me that I find offensive. I'll be offended. I'm not going to stand there 'hrm, did he *mean* for it to be offensive or just funny? Was the joke meant for someone else or me?'
Azih said:
Maybe it's because I don't generally get offended by things but I just don't agree with you here. I honestly don't think taking offense is an involuntary response.
Azih said:
It really depends on the situation. If he obviously meant it as a joke and didn't mean for it to harm me, I don't know why I would be offended. It's all about context and the way in which it was intended.
Azih said:
Cohen wasn't in a comedic venue when he did what he did. His intention wasn't for the crowd listening to laugh. That's why I think this is a shitty example to support my argument. Originally, I was responding to your blanket statement about how comedians should know their audience. The original instance spoke of in this thread isn't a typical comedic situation. Basically, I don't blame that audience for being offended.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Teza said:
He's smarter than you and everyone else on this forum. Stop hatin, bitch.
Fresh Prince
Banned
Borat makes the show.
Anyway Azih- it is a piece of social commentary. Proving that southerners are rednecks.
Anyway Azih- it is a piece of social commentary. Proving that southerners are rednecks.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Screenboy said:
Hahaha, yes!
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Teza said:
You may not find him funny...but that doesn't change the fact that he scored at genius levels on his tests. Seriously, shut up.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Azih said:
So...point out exactly where I said that. Nevermind the fact that it was just a random bit of info thrown in by me that I never meant to be disputed. You may think he's not funny, I don't care. But when you flat out deny the guy's a proven genius on many accounts, you're just flat out hating the guy for no reason.
You must be insane.AlphaSnake said:
Either that or you're drunk on hyperbole.
Look at what you're saying. 'Ali G' ... is ... a ... genius. A genius.
Ok, I accept that intelligent is relative, but I can't think of any useful standard against which Ali G would deserve the title 'intelligent', let alone 'very intelligent', let alone 'very, very intelligent', let alone 'holy fuck this guy is bright', let alone 'genius'.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Teza said:
You must be a moron if you can't look past a character and look at the damn facts. The dude graduated Cambridge at the top of his class.
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