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Alien Covenant - Trailer 2

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Hm, not really expecting much from this. Just doesn't look all that interesting either visually or in respect to the premise.
Just another monster flick tbh. I expect someone in the audience to shout "we've seen this shit before!" and everyone laugh.

Also what the hell is the rating on that trailer?

"This has been Approved for Appropriate Audiences!" makes sense. . .

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I hate Terminator 3 every bit as much as Alien 3, yet even then I still can't hate this.
 
I'm getting the same vibes I did from the Batman v Superman trailer: Studio is panicking so they're holding nothing back in the trailer so that maybe they can at least get asses in seats on opening weekend before WoM sinks the film.

I would have much rather seen whatever Blompkaff could have given us over this.

Same, it probably would've sucked and had Sharlto Copley and his squeaky voice ruining it, but visually it would've been amazing.
 
lol I'm not sure what you're expecting with a movie in the Alien franchise. Looks fine to me.

And we've had CG xenos since Alien 3.
Heck, even Paul W.S. Anderson's Alien vs. Predator had guys in suits/animatronics for a lot of shots.

I'm getting the same vibes I did from the Batman v Superman trailer: Studio is panicking so they're holding nothing back in the trailer so that maybe they can at least get asses in seats on opening weekend before WoM sinks the film.
So now this movie is going to be the one that we get dozens of LTTP/RTTP threads of for the next year.
 
Because the giant bio-mechanical sex monster that launches an auxiliary projectile jaw filled with teeth into it's victims faces in the 1979 original was really subtle with it's threatening nature.
It wasn't subtle. It was more alien. Which is the point. The design is meant to evoke a creature that is, in essence, unknowable. By making it essentially part human with expressions it removes a core reason why the original was such a great horror film.
 
When does this take place?

Love the trailer but at the same time I'm kinda done seeing everything again for the umpteenth time.
 
So now this movie is going to be the one that we get dozens of LTTP/RTTP threads of for the next year.

Did Prometheus? The only time I see that movie ever mentioned is to:

1.) Praise the visuals

and then immediately after

2.) shit on the story and its many plot holes.
 
Oh man. This looks pretty fucking stupid. Alien is the fucking Sonic the Hedgehog of movies. People need to accept that it ain't coming back, haha. Put that money into a new idea.
 
I'm going into this with low expectations.

Prometheus is basically a beautiful, pretentious-but-dumb haunted house/stalker movie. This looks like it'll be more of the same, but I'm okay with that. It'll be fun.

That last couple of shots were fucking hilarious.
 
it seems Ridley Scott have no idea how to make a good Alien movie.

it's even a miracle that we got movie like Alien, but that's thanks to Dan O'Bannon https://alienseries.wordpress.com/2014/04/10/interview-with-dan-obannon/

Did they film your original script without too many changes?

Well, David Giler, who is one of the producers, sat down and just kept rewriting it all. Just kept rewriting and rewriting it, and rewriting it, until there was very little resemblance to the original screenplay. I wasn't allowed to participate in that because he didn't want me to. He was producer.

Then two weeks before we started shooting, he left for mysterious reasons. He left the production. The main producer, Gordon Carroll, and the director called me in and there were two week of frantic mutual work between all of us trying to put the script into shape. By the time we got done, it was maybe 80 percent of what the original draft was. What we got on the screen was actually very close to the original draft.


as bonus:
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/alien/13160/the-den-of-geek-interview-dan-obannon

Where would you like to see the next Alien film head? Perhaps back to the more high-budget universe that you---

I'd like to see it stop. A horror movie's a fragile thing, and once you've gotten past the original, it isn't scary anymore. So you do a bunch of sequels to a horror movie, all they do is drain any remaining impact out of the original. All of the sequels to for instance Invasion Of The Bodysnatchers, same thing; they over-expose the ideas, and when you look at the original, it's not as effective as it would have been if you had just left it alone.

But money makes the world go round and Hill and Giler saw that as the best way to make more money without having to do any work. So as producers with an in at Fox, they just continue to shove those things through.

So as far as you're concerned the Alien franchise is pretty much played out now?

It was played out after the first one, as far as I'm concerned. Cameron, in the first one, did about the only thing you could do, which was that he changed to a different genre, from a horror movie to an action film. But once he had done that, there really was nothing left to do. And they just keep squeezing the thing till it's an empty bag. But as long as it keeps bringing in money to them, they'll keep doing it.

Gordon Carroll was the only decent one among the producers. He had a falling out with them over Alien and they stopped liking him too, and he passed away a couple of years ago.
 
Probably. David's on that planet somewhere.

It kinda seems like Ridley's gone ahead and went with the Aliens being slavering, agitated monsters instead of the smooth, gliding, inscrutable evil of the first movie.


Where's Elizabeth Shaw? I'm guessing it's the engineer's planet, Paradise, seeing the ship Shaw and David was in the trailer? I'm guessing David fucked everything again and the goo killed the planet?
 
Egg -> Facehugger -> All Hell Breaks Loose -formula is starting get a bit stale...

Love the cold visual look though.
 
Probably. David's on that planet somewhere.

It kinda seems like Ridley's gone ahead and went with the Aliens being slavering, agitated monsters instead of the smooth, gliding, inscrutable evil of the first movie.

You know, as much as Cameron gets shit on by Alien 1 purists for "turning the Alien in bugs" as least he made them intelligent bugs: setting ambushes, cutting the power, learning how to work an elevator.

Here, its just bashing its head on a cockpit window like a PCP-addict with no rhyme or reason.

They also ran headfirst into multiple turrets until those ran out of bullets.

That was just the queen sending political dissidents to the frontline.

But yeah, that part just doesn't fit with the rest of their behavior. You'd think they would've stopped after the first 5 of them got splattered.
 
You know, as much as Cameron gets shit on by Alien 1 purists for "turning the Alien in bugs" as least he made them intelligent bugs: setting ambushes, cutting the power, learning how to work an elevator.

Here, its just bashing its head on a cockpit window like a PCP-addict with no rhyme or reason.

They also ran headfirst into multiple turrets until those ran out of bullets.
 
You know, as much as Cameron gets shit on by Alien 1 purists for "turning the Alien in bugs" as least he made them intelligent bugs: setting ambushes, cutting the power, learning how to work an elevator.

Here, its just bashing its head on a cockpit window like a PCP-addict with no rhyme or reason.

aslo I don't think it's even possible to break a cockpit window like that.

Do you think this is Elizabeth?
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Well, the mystery is solved.

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It's Lord Nibbler.
 
Ridley makes Prometheus to try and distance himself from Alien, reactions: "wtf is thiiiiis? I wanted another Alien movie!!!"

Ridley makes another Alien movie: "Welp, another Alien movie."

Can't win.

Anyways, looks great and the Xeno is amazing so I'll be there day one.
 
The more I see the worse it looks. Also interesting that we don't see anything of Franco in this trailer despite him being in that similarly awful 'Last Supper' garbage. I wonder if his character
dies in hyper sleep
or something...,

The shot at the end plays like an action beat from a broad comedy rather than sci-fi horror. I honestly think I may skip this one at the cinema given how much I hated Prometheus.

Got a quick glimpse of the neomorph. Which is apparently what happens after you step on the little black thingys out by the wheat. The spores go in your ear, you get dragged back to the ship with your mouth bleeding, and then it bursts out of your back.

People can talk about endless remakes and reboots all they want but trying to freshen up the Alien franchise with a prequel where the aliens burst out of the hosts back rather than their chest is probably the best example of creative bankruptcy that I've ever seen.

And when this film turns out to be awful just like Prometheus Sir Ridley won't be able to blame it on Lindeloff this time.
 
And another CGI alien. I don't understand Ridley. He removed the aliens from the first movie to focus this trilogy on the engineers and their homeworld.

It resulted in a mediocre first movie and the concept has been totally forgotten for a second installment that turns into a full alien movie. It doesn't really make any sense, I wish John Spaiht would tell us what his ideas originally were for the sequels.
 
Looks extremely stupid. AVP level pointlessness. I guess the series will only ever have one great film.
 
Egg -> Facehugger -> All Hell Breaks Loose -formula is starting get a bit stale...

Love the cold visual look though.
Yeah, I want to believe they just want to be misleading with the trailer, but this looks super generic and a retread of the same things over and over again.

I hope there is some strong connection with the first film that makes the plot go forward a bit because the structure is becoming really repetitive, which is a shame.

I kind of enjoyed Prometheus with the general atmosphere it had and the motivations of the crew. This just seems too simple for now.
 
Looks awesome. I'm so in.

Alien looks more nimble than it has ever been. Very convincing CGI as well.
Love the visual look of the movie in general and it has good actors (now it remains to see how the characters are written).
 
The cloaked person is the only interesting part.

We've seen all the rest and there is no tension repeating it.
 
If I was told I was going to "paradise" and landed there, I'd feel I was a bit over-sold.
 
man I love the production design of this series. day one to see this world in theaters again, it looks great.

but the movie itself seems like it will prolly end up kinda...shit. and man as great as it is to see a full blown xenomorph again don't put him in broad daylight like that, it feels wrong. like seeing batman in a well lit room. that final scene was fuckin terrible.
 
They also ran headfirst into multiple turrets until those ran out of bullets.
Which was actually indeed a clever move. They recognized that the marines only had a limited amount of ammo and just threw themselves at the guns until they were out. Makes sense when you think of the xenos as insects.
 
Looks very gray.

And the alien is way too overexposed. Was that last shot supposed to be cool? scary?

I think there is a problem with... well, how much we expose the Alien since, we know who they are and what they do.

I don't really know. I felt this is a bit over the top for being an Alien movie. I wouldn't really expect them to just hide and run away, you can create tension by having capable character that are facing a threat much bigger than what they can handle. Just like how having weapons doesn't automatically turn a survival horror game into a shooter.

But those big setpieces... they felt a bit out of place, yeah.
 
Couple of random observations:

feel's like multiple movies crammed into one - continuation of what I presume Scott had in mind with Prometheus, return of facehuggers/etc because you asked for it and Aliens style combat because you asked for that too. That's a lot to combine and I'm more than nervous they'll struggle with it but hopefully they create something cohesive

as we see spore infection/back buster as well as eggs/facehuggers I presume we're seeing two distinct Alien types depending on the infection/birth method (the former feels like continuing with the black goo/engineering style of Prometheus and the latter a return to eggs/facehugger classic life cycle)

the fast moving Alien feels like Scott going back to earlier ideas TBH. It's documented and known that in Alien Scott actually wanted the Alien moving fast like that. In earlier drafts/concepts Dallas for example would emerge from the vent into a large open central chamber and the Alien would come barrelling at him running on the walls moving so fast he couldn't get a bead on it with the flamethrower. Limitations of the costume, effects and budget steered Scott to the slow, methodical unhurried Alien we got instead. Here - as with Prometheus - he's going back to his original ideas (that were taken up later by the franchise anyway)

Looks like a mixed tone which also concerns me a little. Films that successful support mixed tones can be great but its hard to do and the mix of stylistic, simple shots, hectic action, slasher style set-ups and character's veering from intense to bland to almost comedic worries me that - as with the impression of multiple movies crammed into one - the tone may veer around the place in a way that's not good - again I hope not and they get a good balance

Trailer itself feels like a hodgepodge trying to cover the bases so it's hard to tell if it's implying issues that might not exist or reflecting a possibly muddled, fussy film trying to cram too much into it's runtime (particularly compared to the original Alien which at a shade under two hours had way less plot/content/cast and was elegant and measured in its pace and narrative construction).

Anyway my expectations are set to medium/of morbid interest and will remain there until it's out, some reviews are in and I've got around to seeing it myself.
 
Looks very derivative. Like some kind of a 'best of' collection from Alien movies with nothing to bind them together.

Also, why do movie people keep sticking their heads into giant slimy eggs that make threatening slime sounds on a foreign planet. Jeeee-sus.
 
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