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All your WiFi devices are broken, Android/Linux devices particularly devastated

KaoteK

Member
So my one plus 3t was updated at the end of last month. I should be ok right? (Googling doesn't seem to give me any answers)
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
It did, but the ad network Evilore does business with had issues with it. Gotta pay the bills, but I wish he would dump them for someone else.

I did in fact ditch that prohibitive ad partnership back in spring 2016 instead of paying the bills, haha, in large part so that site-wide HTTPS could be viable for all NeoGAF visitors by default. Without parting ways with our ad partners there, full HTTPS browsing would've only been possible for ad-free premium subscribers, and the notion of paywalling HTTPS *really* bothered me (especially after we put in all the work to deploy it as a standard feature and I announced it as such).

You must've missed those few straight months of me being completely delirious from sleep deprivation while I rebuilt our in-house ad solutions from the ground up...live...in the middle of an emerging adblock crisis. ;b

Anyway, long story long, our current ad pipeline *is* HTTPS-compliant and hypothetically ready for action on that front, but this pain-in-the-balls EoL forum platform is teetering precariously on a pile of duct tape and custom mods and isn't viable to update anymore. We'll be migrating to a new forum architecture pretty soon, though, so HTTPS is still en route.
 
You can at least change the login post to be https ?
Only takes a bit more duct tape?
I know the cookie is still http after login so could be hijacked but you can at least say the password isn't ttansmitted in the clear (even if its actually vbulletin hashed now).
 

sangreal

Member
You can at least change the login post to be https ?
Only takes a bit more duct tape?
I know the cookie is still http after login so could be hijacked but you can at least say the password isn't ttansmitted in the clear (even if its actually vbulletin hashed now).

the password is hashed before being submitted to the login page (not sure if that is what you meant, or just the cookie)
 

M3d10n

Member
I did in fact ditch that prohibitive ad partnership back in spring 2016 instead of paying the bills, haha, in large part so that site-wide HTTPS could be viable for all NeoGAF visitors by default. Without parting ways with our ad partners there, full HTTPS browsing would've only been possible for ad-free premium subscribers, and the notion of paywalling HTTPS *really* bothered me (especially after we put in all the work to deploy it as a standard feature and I announced it as such).

You must've missed those few straight months of me being completely delirious from sleep deprivation while I rebuilt our in-house ad solutions from the ground up...live...in the middle of an emerging adblock crisis. ;b

Anyway, long story long, our current ad pipeline *is* HTTPS-compliant and hypothetically ready for action on that front, but this pain-in-the-balls EoL forum platform is teetering precariously on a pile of duct tape and custom mods and isn't viable to update anymore. We'll be migrating to a new forum architecture pretty soon, though, so HTTPS is still en route.

STOP THE PRESSES! BIG SCOOP!!!
 

Blam

Member
I did in fact ditch that prohibitive ad partnership back in spring 2016 instead of paying the bills, haha, in large part so that site-wide HTTPS could be viable for all NeoGAF visitors by default. Without parting ways with our ad partners there, full HTTPS browsing would've only been possible for ad-free premium subscribers, and the notion of paywalling HTTPS *really* bothered me (especially after we put in all the work to deploy it as a standard feature and I announced it as such).

You must've missed those few straight months of me being completely delirious from sleep deprivation while I rebuilt our in-house ad solutions from the ground up...live...in the middle of an emerging adblock crisis. ;b

Anyway, long story long, our current ad pipeline *is* HTTPS-compliant and hypothetically ready for action on that front, but this pain-in-the-balls EoL forum platform is teetering precariously on a pile of duct tape and custom mods and isn't viable to update anymore. We'll be migrating to a new forum architecture pretty soon, though, so HTTPS is still en route.

I will be waiting for that new forum arch very eagerly
 

Izayoi

Banned
As long as we still get the sweet mobile mode, I'm a happy camper.

On topic: I'm glad I have 4G until my phone gets a patch, but the size of this vulnerability is just immense.
 

FLAguy954

Junior Member
It did, but the ad network Evilore does business with had issues with it. Gotta pay the bills, but I wish he would dump them for someone else.

This. I can't even login/post on GAF at work because it is deemed as 'not secure' since it's HTTP instead of HTTPS.

On topic - I'm happy software like LineageOS (14.1) exist for those of us with phones that don't get updates past the first year. Having a 10/5/2017 security patch on my Axon 7 just shows one of the many advantages of rooting a phone.
 
the password is hashed before being submitted to the login page (not sure if that is what you meant, or just the cookie)
It's hashed via a standard vb function then transmitted in clear which is bad because vbulletin hashes suck:

https://www.troyhunt.com/data-breaches-vbulletin-and-weak/

I think It should be sent via https just for the login form, then that URL redirects back to http if that's what the site must stick with. That way the post action is encrypted, but the ads remain http.

It is unclear to me why, if ad serving is bad over https, then a rewritten forum would help. Ad networks that plug ads into boxes on a page are either working well over https or not?
 

Random Human

They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
I just got a notification for an iOS update - will that address this?
 

Random Human

They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Negative. That update is most likely 11.0.3, and the fix will be in 11.1 (currently in beta, release due in the next couple weeks).
Gotcha, thanks! Guess I’ll just keep waiting.
 
Do we need to get new routers? I have Fios internet, which uses Verizon's routers, so I'm not sure if they would update them. I wish buy any wireless router for Fios, but I think you have to use Verizon's router to the Moca or something like that :(
 
From what I'm reading it says Android 6.0+ is affected. Sooo since I've been declining the update install every day for 2 years now (because Lolipop would have broken Puzzle and Dragons and then I just kept doing it after they updated the game) and I'm still on Android 4.4.4, is my phone safe?
 

sangreal

Member
Do we need to get new routers? I have Fios internet, which uses Verizon's routers, so I'm not sure if they would update them. I wish buy any wireless router for Fios, but I think you have to use Verizon's router to the Moca or something like that :(

1) You definitely don't need to use Verizon's router. You can use any MoCa bridge. You lose some features like remote DVR though
2) I don't think their routers support the features that need to be patched on the AP side, but they do put out pretty regular (automatic) updates so I wouldn't worry about it
 

Alphahawk

Member
From what I'm reading it says Android 6.0+ is affected. Sooo since I've been declining the update install every day for 2 years now (because Lolipop would have broken Puzzle and Dragons and then I just kept doing it after they updated the game) and I'm still on Android 4.4.4, is my phone safe?

No, it's easier to exploit on higher level Androids but all Androids are affected.
 
So what information exactly is available to these hacks? If I'm already logged into GAF on my phone and sign into the network, will they see my password? Or is it only if I log in and have to enter my password? Are viruses and Trojans able to get into my phone much easier?
 
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