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Am I alone in thinking the Mouth of Sauron sequence in the ROTK EE DVD was crap?

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If you haven't read the books or seen the movies, beware of

SPOILERS!

So the Black Gate opens and out comes the Mouth of Sauron. Sauron's liutenant in the Dark Tower, one of his most powerful servants. A real bad-ass who despises Gayndalf and his merry (no pun intended) band of moroons. A very dark and menacing figure, he's the closest the books get to a physical representation of Sauron.

What do we get in the film? Stevie Wonder. He arrives and smiles. Moves his head in arcs, grinning, or rather showing his teeth, but it looks like a colgate smile. He nods.

I just called to say I love you.

SPOILERS!
 

Drozmight

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I'd be lieing if I said I wasn't expecting an actual fight. I mean the witch king demolished gandalf by only raising his sword, and then this dude is just cake?
 

bachikarn

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Spoilers, i guess

I liked the actual interpretation of him in the movie, but I did not like how his dialogue was significantly shorter than the book and how Aragorn kills him so randomly.
 

Eminem

goddamit, Griese!
i thought it was really, really well done. when i read the book i imagined it i guess bigger and more menacing....but i the way PJ did it was fine with me. i liked it.
 

DrForester

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I imagined the cahracter to be a bit more menacing, though I loved how he looked, with the mouth enlarged to take up whole face not covered by armor.

My problem with the scene wasnt a visual problem, its how much the scene deviated from the book. That scene was really pointless in teh film the way they did it. In the book, the scene brought everyone to their lowest. They had no hope at that point, in their mind, their plan had failed, they lost, it was over.

They didnt do that in the movie.
 

teiresias

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Well, Jackson discusses that aspect of the narrative and that scene in the extras. In the novel I believe the last time we'd seen Sam and Frodo was after Frodo was taken to the tower after being biten by Shelob, so in the book even the reader doesn't know if the Mouth of Sauron actually is telling the truth and Frodo is dead. That doesn't work too well with the intercut structure of the film though since we already know he's not actually dead in the film.

I think the reaction works in the film though, with the Hobbits being in the most despair, and Gandalf, obviously shaken but determined not to let leak any information. I think it's rather obvious to them, at least to Gandalf, that even if Frodo is dead that Sauron doesn't have the ring yet or even know it was on Frodo's person, otherwise the MoS wouldn't be there putting on this little show for them, hell-on-middle-earth would have started already.
 

Drozmight

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The one thing that bugs me in the movie the most is that sauron sees frodo and doesn't even send a nazgul or two over there to check out what he saw.
 

Suerte

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Littleberu said:
Why would you enter a thread concerning Mouth of Sauron if you don't want to be spoiled?

Then why bother writing SPOILERS, just saying to him that there is in fact a spoiler tag. Jobby.
 

gunstarhero

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I thought it was a great scene - although I could have done without the new scene where
Gimli and Legolas have a drinking contest - makes Gimli's "comic relief" role even more so - lame imo
 

Lathentar

Looking for Pants
gunstarhero said:
I thought it was a great scene - although I could have done without the new scene where
Gimli and Legolas have a drinking contest - makes Gimli's "comic relief" role even more so - lame imo
I actually thought that was funny.
Now the scene where Gimli almost crapped himself scared of the undead was unnecessary
 

Drozmight

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Lathentar said:
I actually thought that was funny.
Now the scene where Gimli almost crapped himself scared of the undead was unnecessary

What? When the hell was that?
I thought the part where he was stepping on the skulls was hilarious.
 

ManaByte

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The drinking game was perfectly in character for a dwarf (along with Gimli's burp in TTT) and it helped to strengthen the Gimli/Legolas friendship.
 

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Drozmight said:
What? When the hell was that?
I thought the part where he was stepping on the skulls was hilarious.
I thought that was way out of place, trying to quickly switch back and forth between creepy/moody and funny just ruins both.

Eowyn rocks my face
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
Dice said:
I thought that was way out of place, trying to quickly switch back and forth between creepy/moody and funny just ruins both.

Eowyn rocks my face

Eowyn >>>> Arwen
 

mrkgoo

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A girl i know looks just like Eowyn.

The part I didn't like most about EE was the killing of the pirates and hijacking their ships - it ruins the reveal later, and is just heir for the glory of some of the production crew dressing up as pirates and getting hteir cameos.
 
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