Am I just crazy? (portable gaming)

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Kabuki Waq

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$250 for a PSP 200 for a DS?

Why is it people buy these expensive port machines? Really the most people end up playing their "portable" system at home in their room plugged into a wall. i barely see anyone playing their system when they actually are traveling and such. The most popular games on each system seem to be games that have already been released on previous consoles. why not bust out your n64 and play mario kart 64 on your tv instead of looking at that small screen? Mario 64 port? Ridge racer port? why bother? Im sure there are a few unique games for each portable but really all i see are kids buying the same old shit that was released years ago. Maybe its just where i live, i dunno but paying $200 for these machines just seems like a waste. IMO
 
Kabuki Waq said:
$250 for a PSP 200 for a DS?

Why is it people buy these expensive port machines? Really the most people end up playing their "portable" system at home in their room plugged into a wall. i barely see anyone playing their system when they actually are traveling and such. The most popular games on each system seem to be games that have already been released on previous consoles. why not bust out your n64 and play mario kart 64 on your tv instead of looking at that small screen? Mario 64 port? Ridge racer port? why bother? Im sure there are a few unique games for each portable but really all i see are kids buying the same old shit that was released years ago. Maybe its just where i live, i dunno but paying $200 for these machines just seems like a waste. IMO
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Why did you not post in another one of the threads?
 
The DS price is wrong.
Can't say much for the PSP, but playing a new Castlevania, Advance Wars with a touch screen and the sheer THOUGHT of Puppy Times and wireless Animal Crossing convinced me.
 
Kabuki Waq said:
$250 for a PSP 200 for a DS?

Why is it people buy these expensive port machines? Really the most people end up playing their "portable" system at home in their room plugged into a wall. i barely see anyone playing their system when they actually are traveling and such. The most popular games on each system seem to be games that have already been released on previous consoles. why not bust out your n64 and play mario kart 64 on your tv instead of looking at that small screen? Mario 64 port? Ridge racer port? why bother? Im sure there are a few unique games for each portable but really all i see are kids buying the same old shit that was released years ago. Maybe its just where i live, i dunno but paying $200 for these machines just seems like a waste. IMO
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Do you live in a real city?

I spent 40 minutes every day on the train. Portable gaming is a godsend.
 
You're not crazy...

That's how I felt for a while, but starting this year, I'll be moving around. I'll be up north soon and I'll be in Japan shortly after that (and I'll be there for a while). My need for a portable machine has increased greatly as a result...
 
no way I'm paying $250 for a portable 1st gen machine from sony... (I like sony btw)

thats just too much money. I dont even use my portable unless im on business trips. I already got a DS so I guess I'll just wait for some good games to come out for that. :\
 
M3wThr33 said:
The DS price is wrong.
Can't say much for the PSP, but playing a new Castlevania, Advance Wars with a touch screen and the sheer THOUGHT of Puppy Times and wireless Animal Crossing convinced me.
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Touch screen with caslevania what does that actually add to the gameplay? i dont see how it will control any better?
 
Razoric said:
no way I'm paying $250 for a portable 1st gen machine from sony... (I like sony btw)

thats just too much money. I dont even use my portable unless im on business trips. I already got a DS so I guess I'll just wait for some good games to come out for that. :\
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So, you enjoy your DS?
 
Kabuki Waq said:
Touch screen with caslevania what does that actually add to the gameplay? i dont see how it will control any better?
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I think he was just noting the new 2D Castlevania is on DS and that Advance Wars would use the touchscreen.
 
Kabuki Waq said:
Touch screen with caslevania what does that actually add to the gameplay? i dont see how it will control any better?
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Only vid I saw was the destroying blocks of ice by touching them.
 
catfish said:
Only vid I saw was the destroying blocks of ice by touching them.
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Yo-you're forgetting the, uh, the part where you seal the bosses after you destroy them! Yea, that's cool! Not a gimmick at all. That's a whole new level of gameplay, only possible on the Nintendo DS(tm)!

And don't forget that IGA was all "THERE'S ANOTHER USE FOR THE TOUCH SCREEN AND I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT" in that Game Informer interview!

Gosh, Nintendo rocks.
 
Kabuki Waq said:
$250 for a PSP 200 for a DS?

Why is it people buy these expensive port machines? Really the most people end up playing their "portable" system at home in their room plugged into a wall. i barely see anyone playing their system when they actually are traveling and such. The most popular games on each system seem to be games that have already been released on previous consoles. why not bust out your n64 and play mario kart 64 on your tv instead of looking at that small screen? Mario 64 port? Ridge racer port? why bother? Im sure there are a few unique games for each portable but really all i see are kids buying the same old shit that was released years ago. Maybe its just where i live, i dunno but paying $200 for these machines just seems like a waste. IMO
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My wife doesn't understand why I like videogaming, period. She might have written something similar about the entire realm of videogames, not just portable gaming or RPG gaming, or sports gaming, etc...

Why is it that some of you struggle so to see things from anything other than your own narrow perspective?
 
I spent $230 for my Wonderswan Color and didn't feel ripped off...$250 for the technology you get with the PSP doesn't seem too bad if you have that much money around.
 
Why is it people buy these expensive port machines? Really the most people end up playing their "portable" system at home in their room plugged into a wall. i barely see anyone playing their system when they actually are traveling and such.
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It's just very convenient to play a handheld (more convenient than a console). The games are great fun (I still rather play Lumines than anything else). It comes down to scheduled gaming on home consoles vs. the anytime gaming on handheld. When the games look so close on both, and when the gameplay is so good, handheld wins.

That's not even getting into social aspect. I'm waiting on couple of already commited guys in the office at work to buy a PSP, so that we can play against each other. Again, no scheduling - just I'm there, they're there, let's go.
 
BuddyChrist83 said:
And don't forget that IGA was all "THERE'S ANOTHER USE FOR THE TOUCH SCREEN AND I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT" in that Game Informer interview!
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The use is a bonus Solitaire game.

'cause if you're playin' a DS, you're playin' alone
 
There's a growing market for multi-hundred dollar portable devices in the US. Look at all the Ipods and knockoffs, look at all the PDAs and smartphones. This is a logical extention of that. My targeting non-kids Sony can move the device up in quality and cost.
 
kaching said:
My wife doesn't understand why I like videogaming, period. She might have written something similar about the entire realm of videogames, not just portable gaming or RPG gaming, or sports gaming, etc...

Why is it that some of you struggle so to see things from anything other than your own narrow perspective?
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ok lets say you have a DS you are playing it in your home. you are playing mario 64 a game that you could play on your TV with better controls on a bigger screen? I was just making a comment on how most of these machines are just being used to port older games and charge new game prices and also how most ppl dont actually use them as PORTABLE systems.
 
I agree.. You can almost justify paying $200-$300 for an mp3 player since you can use it for many years. For a portable games machine you continually need to buy games for it, which I would rather buy games for playing at home. Different people have different needs though, so it might be attractive to some.
 
Marconelly said:
It's just very convenient to play a handheld (more convenient than a console). The games are great fun (I still rather play Lumines than anything else). It comes down to scheduled gaming on home consoles vs. the anytime gaming on handheld. When the games look so close on both, and when the gameplay is so good, handheld wins.

That's not even getting into social aspect. I'm waiting on couple of already commited guys in the office at work to buy a PSP, so that we can play against each other. Again, no scheduling - just I'm there, they're there, let's go.
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ok agree with playing in your office and such with your buddies, but at home why not play ridge racer on your TV instead of on a handheld? how does a handheld win there?
 
Kabuki Waq said:
$250 for a PSP 200 for a DS?

Why is it people buy these expensive port machines? Really the most people end up playing their "portable" system at home in their room plugged into a wall. i barely see anyone playing their system when they actually are traveling and such. The most popular games on each system seem to be games that have already been released on previous consoles. why not bust out your n64 and play mario kart 64 on your tv instead of looking at that small screen? Mario 64 port? Ridge racer port? why bother? Im sure there are a few unique games for each portable but really all i see are kids buying the same old shit that was released years ago. Maybe its just where i live, i dunno but paying $200 for these machines just seems like a waste. IMO
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One day your life will chainge, and you won't have much free-time at all ... you will be busy, happy with your outside work, and used to a busy lifestyle.
You may have a child you don't want exposed to some of your games, you may have a significant other that needs to use the entertainment room, you may just want to be somewhere alone by youself.
That's when the anxiety of sitting still in front of a television (and not getting any work done) will start to scratch at you...
You see, portable games don't come with any anxiety ---- whenever you want to you can play ... in bed, on the couch, as someone waches the TV, on the crapper, at a bad movie, on public transportation, etc.

portable gaming has every bit of potential as being as robust as traditional consoles... and one day you'll be happy that portable handhelds cought up.
 
sammy said:
That's when the anxiety of sitting still in front of a television (and not getting any work done) will start to scratch at you...
You see, portable games don't come with any anxiety ----
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err how is wasting time on a TV any different than wasting time on a TV? Being married and having A job i can tell you i dont have nearly as much free time as before, yet Portable gaming AT HOME still doesnt make sense to me i mean how much time do you spend on the CRAPPER?
 
Just a random tidbit, last week on the train at like 2am I saw 3 teens playing some DS multiplayer. I couldn't tell what game they were playing cause I was pretty messed up. Come to think about it maybe they weren't even there. Just thought I would share that.
 
sammy said:
One day your life will chainge, and you won't have much free-time at all ... you will be busy, happy with your outside work, and used to a busy lifestyle.
You may have a child you don't want exposed to some of your games, you may have a significant other that needs to use the entertainment room, you may just want to be somewhere alone by youself.
That's when the anxiety of sitting still in front of a television (and not getting any work done) will start to scratch at you...
You see, portable games don't come with any anxiety ---- whenever you want to you can play ... in bed, on the couch, as someone waches the TV, on the crapper, at a bad movie, on public transportation, etc.

portable gaming has every bit of potential as being as robust as traditional consoles... and one day you'll be happy that portable handhelds cought up.
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Bingo. I want a PSP for the same reason my last computer was a laptop w/wireless. I want to be able to play anywhere, not just in one location. Having a child makes a huge differene with the amoutn of time I have to plop down in front of a TV.
 
I agree.. You can almost justify paying $200-$300 for an mp3 player since you can use it for many years. For a portable games machine you continually need to buy games for it, which I would rather buy games for playing at home. Different people have different needs though, so it might be attractive to some.
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ok agree with playing in your office and such with your buddies, but at home why not play ridge racer on your TV instead of on a handheld? how does a handheld win there?
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More convenient. For example, to be able to play a game on a console, I first have to schedule that with my wife, so that she doesn't watch anything on a TV at that time, then I (or both of us) can sit in front of a TV (and only there) and play. On a handheld, I flick the switch, and the game is there that same second. I can be sitting anywhere. I can be lying on a bed. It also helps that Ridge Racers is actually the best game in the series, and it's not available on any other console (which also goes for Lumines). Then, there's an obvious ability to play all that anywhere.

I'm not saying this is better for every game - not at all, but in some ways it's better, and for certain games and game types, it's unquestionably better.

Look at it as home HiFi equipment vs. the portable music player. Sure, you can listen to music on HiFi when you're at home, but that has to be scheduled as to not annoy people around. With portable music players, you can listen to music anytime.
 
Am I just crazy or are there about a billion other PSP threads you could've put this in. You don't like portable gaming? Teh innovative!
 
Never thought portable gaming was particulary impressive. Just cant get the same satisfaction i get from home consoles.

PSP might change this however. For the first time ever, a portable actually has me excited. Pro Evo on PSP will be everything i want from a portable machiine. First handheld game getting excited for
 
Let's see. I've bought roughly 40 GBA games this year, plus an GBANES SP.

Lessee...at about 20 bucks a popX40...that's about 800 bucks. Plus the NES sp, that's 900. So I've spent about $900 this year on portable gaming. So, I guess $250 for a PSP and a game or $200 for a DS and a game isn't that much, at least not for somebody like me, who's main source of gaming comes from his GBSP and other portables.
 
Kabuki Waq said:
I was talking about All portable gaming.
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Is there any other portable system that most would deem 'expensive'? The PSP is the priciest portable yet, when you consider software price and accessories. But fair enough. Let's consult the original post, which makes an awful lot of assumptions. There's plenty of people that rely on public transportation that DO use their SPs, PDAs, whatever fairly regularly. Just because you don't see it happening alot in your respective area doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Second, I'm not sure if you understand the definition of 'port'. The vast majority of games on existing and upcoming portable systems are UNIQUE games. Just because it uses an established brand doesn't make it a port. The games still have unique levels, characters, vehicles, etc.
 
Kabuki Waq said:
ok lets say you have a DS you are playing it in your home. you are playing mario 64 a game that you could play on your TV with better controls on a bigger screen? I was just making a comment on how most of these machines are just being used to port older games and charge new game prices and also how most ppl dont actually use them as PORTABLE systems.
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You want to start splitting hairs, we can talk about how most of the games we can play on any game machine are basically just ports of older games we've played before with more spit and polish. If you're really concerned about redundancy and repetition, you might wonder how you can play through ANY game since there isn't one that doesn't require repetition of the same actions over and over again over the course the hours required to complete the game.

This is what I mean about perspective. This is part of what videogaming is, in all its forms. Why single portable gaming out for it as opposed to any other segment of the market?

If you enjoy gaming enough to put at least a few hours into it a week, I would think you could appreciate the potential of having gaming hardware that allows you to completely untether the experience from your living/dorm/bed room, even if that's just to take it down the hall to the bathroom.
 
FUD of the day is that PSP is all about ports. It comes from people who seem genuinely disinterested in the titles available in the first place, so it's easy to dismiss-- not to mention that it overlooks the original software on the machine.


We'll see how well PSP and it's software does.
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
FUD of the day is that PSP is all about ports. It comes from people who seem genuinely disinterested in the titles available in the first place, so it's easy to dismiss-- not to mention that it overlooks the original software on the machine.
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Par for the course with handhelds, same happened to GBA. Rather than take a look at the 30 some original games Nintendo's produced for it, detractors would rather point to a handful of Mario/Zelda ports and dismiss the platform as redundant. Ports do figure heavily into the handheld equation though, and I'm not really expecting PSP to break that. I don't really think it's a problem at the same time though.
 
jarrod said:
Par for the course with handhelds, same happened to GBA. Rather than take a look at the 30 some original games Nintendo's produced for it, detractors would rather point to a handful of Mario/Zelda ports and dismiss the platform as redundant. Ports do figure heavily into the handheld equation though, and I'm not really expecting PSP to break that. I don't really think it's a problem at the same time though.
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Frankly I'm just shocked you don't have both units already. If we get some online multiplayer out of these machines I may not look back.
 
jarrod said:
Par for the course with handhelds, same happened to GBA. Rather than take a look at the 30 some original games Nintendo's produced for it, detractors would rather point to a handful of Mario/Zelda ports and dismiss the platform as redundant. Ports do figure heavily into the handheld equation though, and I'm not really expecting PSP to break that. I don't really think it's a problem at the same time though.
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Sad but true. I kinda forgot, since the GBA isn't getting so much heat these days.
 
kaching said:
Why is it that some of you struggle so to see things from anything other than your own narrow perspective?
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This should be displayed in large bold text above the message box on the post/reply page of this forum.
 
PSP? DS? Pfft... I want one of these:

Meet my PC Engine/MD/SNES/GBA/ST/Amiga/Scumm/(n64/ps?) port (*cough* emu) machine.

gp29vw.jpg


http://www.gp32x.com/

:D
 
It boils down to whether you use it on the road or not I guess. I don't play my GBA nearly as much as my PS2 so getting a PSP just seems like a waste. Whenever i do play GBA it's always at home, i rarely bust it out anywhere else. I'd rather put the money towards a shiny new nextgen console next year.
 
Kabuki Waq said:
$250 for a PSP 200 for a DS?

Why is it people buy these expensive port machines? Really the most people end up playing their "portable" system at home in their room plugged into a wall. i barely see anyone playing their system when they actually are traveling and such. The most popular games on each system seem to be games that have already been released on previous consoles. why not bust out your n64 and play mario kart 64 on your tv instead of looking at that small screen? Mario 64 port? Ridge racer port? why bother? Im sure there are a few unique games for each portable but really all i see are kids buying the same old shit that was released years ago. Maybe its just where i live, i dunno but paying $200 for these machines just seems like a waste. IMO
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I kinda agree with what you say. I was amazed by the cheapness of the PSP and how much you get out of it for only $250, but I asked myself: Would i really use it?

I played my GBA SP at school whenever i had a break longer than an hour, but on the weekends or vacation, it just sits on a shelf getting dusty. I bought an NDS as a replacement for my GBA SP along with the Mario 64 port and i'm really happy with that decision. I never owned the N64 version and I'm not going to go in the back of my TV (or even the front) to disconnect my current consoles (GCN, PS2, DC... along with my DVD player) to put in an older one. I use my NDS about once a week to play GBA and NDS games now that I'm back in school. I see many people using handhelds too (more cellphones type devices than game only ones). I rarely play my handhelds at home, because I have shelves full of games and series/movies that i still need to play nor watch. At the shitter I read the free magazines that Wario graciously links us to or books and there is a TV or computer in nearly every room of the house.

On the go I don't rely on public transportation (it sucks) so i can't play a handheld in the car. I'd rather have my mommy drive me around than rely on public transportation (I'm 23). Waiting around to get on bus/trolley then waiting in the bus/trolley as it makes its rounds to get to its destination is a HUGE waste of time I'd rather not go through. In some places its just the most efficient way or people don't have enough money to own their own transportatoin, so i understand why they'd want to use a handheld to pass the time.

Right now I'm extremely tempted put down a pre-order to buy one now in order to get it at launch and for the limited edition movie, but I can't see myself using it. PSP would have to compete against my NDS to be taken to school. As it stands right now, I don't see myself taking a PSP. Every game so far are ports or modified versions of I'd rather play (or own) on the PS2 or something I'm not interested at all with like Metal Gear Acid or the Armored Core game (I love these series, but they're too different from what i liked).
Handheld gaming to me has limited game time.
 
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