Presumably, like most Italian cases, the ones you hear about are less stupid than the ones you don't. I don't judge the entire Italian judicial system by that one vain, blowhard retard, and I don't judge all American law based on Johnny Cochrane.
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Presumably, like most Italian cases, the ones you hear about are less stupid than the ones you don't. I don't judge the entire Italian judicial system by that one vain, blowhard retard, and I don't judge all American law based on Johnny Cochrane.
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TangoAlphaLima
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Caylee Anthony's mom/murderer.
I actually didn't pay attention to these kinds of trials, so the whole Amanda Knox thing was just background noise. The other day, my girlfriend found the TV movie on the whole thing on Netflix and wanted to watch it, but it was ... so on the fence about everything, how she acted, if she was guilty, what the police found, how the trial went, that it really didn't do a good job at representing why the case was interesting at all, nor what made it a 'circus'.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
It wasn't a documentary, it was a cheap made for TV movie thing. It didn't provide to me anything that I could use to choose a side, aside from a few surface details about her strange behavior. It didn't delve into what made it a "circus", or anything like that.
Been a while since I read up on the story, but Meredith Kercher (sp?) went home with this violent drifter named Rudy Gueda (sp?) who left his DNA all over the apartment.
Knox comes home, find's her roommate's body, calls police.
The prosecution's theory is that Knox and Gueda, having just met, spontaneously decide to murder Knox's roommate together.
Knox comes home, find's her roommate's body, calls police.
The prosecution's theory is that Knox and Gueda, having just met, spontaneously decide to murder Knox's roommate together.
This relevant to the discussion how? The post you were responding too doesn't even state if he is American nor is it on his member page.
bodyofanamerican
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I just embarrassed myself laughing in public at this. Bravo.
mmazurkiewicz
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wow can't believe Foxy Knoxy turned all bum-hipster.
vas_a_morir
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How do people seem so convinced of her guilt? The whole thing was a sham and they didn't prove jack-shit.
Going undercover as John Denver.
^I think because she knowingly accused an innocent man convinced a lot of people she is a liar and her word should not be trusted.
It is pretty messed up what she did to that man.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Was expecting this guy...
Holy fuck lol
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She looks 55 in that second pic.
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Lol
titiklabingapat
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I think putting her with Casey Anthony is taking it too far. Her trial in Italy was an actual farce and I tend to side that she is innocent.
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If you had above grade 5 reading comprehension you'd understand. Sorry kid.
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Creepy thread, but for anyone interested in the case, here is a report from the Italian judge who let her go:
http://hellmannreport.wordpress.com/contents/
The reason he let her go is that it is virtually certain she didn't do it. The evidence is almost enough to prove conclusively that she is innocent.
The actual killer has been found. Rudy Guede. His bloody fingerprints were at the scene, and his skin cells were inside the victim's body. He fled the country. He got caught and claimed the sex with the victim was consensual (clearly expecting a different line of questioning). Initially asked about Knox he didn't know why they were asking and admitted she wasn't there.
edit: should probably add that Guede had been arrested only days before murdering this victim, for another incident of breaking and entering armed with a knife.
The whole trial, and the gross media concoction of "foxy knoxy" to create bias, were unbelievable. Luckily the Italian judge understood she was clearly innocent, and the actual killer was already caught elsewhere, and let her go.
Funny thing is, if you press them on it, literally everyone I have ever discussed the case with will admit Guede did it. There isn't any rational doubt. But they are so attached to the "foxy knoxy" media construction that they can't let it go.
http://hellmannreport.wordpress.com/contents/
The reason he let her go is that it is virtually certain she didn't do it. The evidence is almost enough to prove conclusively that she is innocent.
The actual killer has been found. Rudy Guede. His bloody fingerprints were at the scene, and his skin cells were inside the victim's body. He fled the country. He got caught and claimed the sex with the victim was consensual (clearly expecting a different line of questioning). Initially asked about Knox he didn't know why they were asking and admitted she wasn't there.
edit: should probably add that Guede had been arrested only days before murdering this victim, for another incident of breaking and entering armed with a knife.
The whole trial, and the gross media concoction of "foxy knoxy" to create bias, were unbelievable. Luckily the Italian judge understood she was clearly innocent, and the actual killer was already caught elsewhere, and let her go.
Funny thing is, if you press them on it, literally everyone I have ever discussed the case with will admit Guede did it. There isn't any rational doubt. But they are so attached to the "foxy knoxy" media construction that they can't let it go.
Your stupid ass use of whataboutism isn't relevant to the topic at hand.
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Every one of your posts in this thread is embarrassing.
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Snape and Harry Potter finally getting it on.
vas_a_morir
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That's it? Because she gave a false statement, she did it? If she just called up and said "this guy did it," then yeah. If it was, instead, the product of a police interrogation going on for dozens of hours straight being deprived of food, sleep, and comfort, then it's not all that damning, in my opinion. I don't trust the police. They got the Norfolk Four to confess to outrageously IMPOSSIBLE crimes by interrogating them for hours.
OJ had his shoe treads that only 6 in the world were made at the crime scene in blood. I want THAT kind of evidence. Not just 'she lied once.' Physical evidence that makes this murder somewhat PLAUSIBLE, even. I'm setting the bar low here. I just want plausibility, and I haven't even seen THAT.
Amanda's wrongful imprisonment isn't sad? Didnt the prison lie and tell her she was HIV positive at one point?
vas_a_morir
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Oh my God, are you serious? They really tortured this girl.
I don't know if she did it or not. I only know a girl has been killed and her assassins are still on the run. This is the only fact and one damn sad one
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Naw, a good documentary starts with a hypothesis and goes from there. Some of the best documentaries I've seen have just been covering subjects that are impossible to have a neutral stance on.
What a good documentary does is inform on a subject or issue in a manner that isn't deceptive or misleading. Neutrality can be part of that, sure, but it's not required.
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This. Fuck all of the drama surrounding Knox. Pretty crazy that Meredith's death seems to have almost taken a backseat in favour of all the drama surrounding her supposed murderer. But I guess this to be expected.
Jars in the bottom produce on top, idiot.
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Fuck her for ruining an innocent man's life by falsely accusing him.
@vas_a_morir: It wasn't a simple finger pointing "he did it." She gave a very detailed statement:
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The judge who let her go also explains what happened with this:
https://hellmannreport.wordpress.com/contents/reasons-for-the-decision/calumny/
The questioning was not filmed, and was performed without an attorney present. This was a violation committed by the police which made it inadmissible at the murder trial.
She was asked questions in a language she didn't understand well, and the questions were never written out in english for her. The translator, in the absence of the required attorney, told Knox she was confused in her memories. Then the police zeroed in on Patrick Lumumba because of the message they had found.
Even then, it took a grueling interrogation, throughout day and night, and only by 1:45 AM were they able to pull something about Lumumba (who again, they had already decided on, and were now trying to get).
But let's ignore that for a second, and focus on what she actually said:
"However, it was under this pressure and after many hours of confusion that my mind came up with these answers. In my mind I saw Patrik in flashes of blurred images."
"But the truth is, I am unsure about the truth and here's why"
"Why did I think of Patrik?"
This is not what she said after the fact. This is literally what she wrote on that very day, after hour upon hour of interrogation in violation of her right to an attorney, and in a language she didn't know well, with police already focused on Patrick because of the message.
So, while you can certainly blame her for not being strong enough to stand up to the police, you also have to admit she at least said she wasn't sure about Patrick, and only used the name after the grueling interrogation focusing on him. I give her some of the blame, but most of it in the police in that situation.
vas_a_morir
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The Norfolk four gave details of their 'rape' and 'murder' with pornographic detail: A rape and murder that was literally impossible for them to have perpetrated. It doesn't mean that much to me because I know how police interrogations work. Interrogations are torture designed to get specific statements through hours and hours of deprivation and circular questioning. That's not saying what Amanda Knox did wasn't wrong, but is it indicative of a deliberate conspiracy to cover-up a murder? I don't know, but if that's ALL they have to connect her to this murder, then that's laughable. I think there is a difference between "We are going to kill this person and then blame it on person B." vs. "I gave a statement after being psychologically and physically tortured for hours and hours because I just wanted it to end." What she did was extremely unfortunate, and she was punished greatly for it. But, I don't care about that. I want that 'OJ' evidence that would even start to make the murder PLAUSIBLE. Not beyond doubt, even. Just plausible.
Once again, The Norfolk Four. Changed the way I look at police interrogations forever.
People have been banned for less here, friend...
Dubbedinenglish
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Literally the DJ from Arrow.
No, let him keep digging his grave, it's more fun that way.
Naw her murderer is actually in jail he just got a reduced sentence for helping in the railroading of this girl.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
She looks exactly like a woman in her 20's. What makes you think she looks like a senior citizen?
vas_a_morir
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The camera, maybe, but she looks wrinkled. And her style looks like something an older woman might have.
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