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I figured I would mention it because I saw the sale and got excited about a potential Amazon response and went looking for info I didn't see here. No Amazon price match coming for the current THQ 75% off sale.

From CAG:

Hey guys, FYI as I've stated before we're in deep conversation around price matching. We're taking a hard look at all cases where the publisher is slashing prices on their own products. This is one that we aren't going to match. To give you insight into how the business works, we still pay the publisher $X for every unit sold...obviously this isn't case with publishers selling their own stuff so it sometimes make it cost prohibitive to match this stuff.

Again, just being 100% transparent here.
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Makes sense, would have been nice though, even as a loss leader. :O
 
So are video games ever gonna get their own tab on the amazon homepage?

It's kinda weird seeing the DD versions there but everything else is hidden in electronics.
 
Hey Tony, can you share any insights on what you've seen so far with drm free or (more interestingly in my opinion) steamworks enabled games fare on sales versus games without those features? I know a lot of people that will jump on an amazon sale if they can redeem it on steam, and I would love to know if it's minority community that I happen to be in or if that actually carries through with what you see on sales.

If a developer or publisher came to you and said we are interested in implementing steamworks, but it will cost x dollars, do you believe that is worth it for us at the end of the day? What would you say as the dude who runs the video game end of one of the biggest (the biggest?) internet retailers?

I understand if you can't talk specifics, or maybe even at all, about it. I was just wondering. Thanks.
 
Why did the email I got say I had to use the promotional credit I got by April 17th? It's gone now.

EDIT: Forget it, I can understand it being a typo. The "April" key is right next to the "March" one.
 
Seriously thinking about picking up the SEGA 48-Game Mega Arcade Pack. Not only do you get the 4 classics packs, but they also include all the Sonic games as well as the two newly released Tojam & Earl games. All for $7.50. That beats the hell out of the best bundle that Steam's ever done.

Edit: Or at least it will be $7.50, if the price ever flips. It's alright though, I've got all week to buy. :)
 
The_End said:
Seriously thinking about picking up the SEGA 48-Game Mega Arcade Pack. Not only do you get the 4 classics packs, but they also include all the Sonic games as well as the two newly released Tojam & Earl games. All for $7.50. That beats the hell out of the best bundle that Steam's ever done.

Edit: Or at least it will be $7.50, if the price ever flips. It's alright though, I've got all week to buy. :)
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Actually, the original bundle that Steam did had those listed as well. I got in early enough to get the Sonic games included in mine before they pulled them, but both Toejam & Earls were pulled until recently. Not sure if anyone has tried going back and getting them added since they were originally listed as being in the bundle.
 
Beelzeboss said:
So are video games ever gonna get their own tab on the amazon homepage?

It's kinda weird seeing the DD versions there but everything else is hidden in electronics.
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Go to Amazon.com, clear your cookies, and refresh a couple of times. We've got a new test going on right now that adds digital software and video games as it's own line item right on the homepage. The guy who sits behind me made a pretty sick image to go in the slot too, it is Male Shep standing on a backdrop of the comets with MLB2K12 guy pitching off his right shoulder.


SteveWinwood said:
Hey Tony, can you share any insights on what you've seen so far with drm free or (more interestingly in my opinion) steamworks enabled games fare on sales versus games without those features? I know a lot of people that will jump on an amazon sale if they can redeem it on steam, and I would love to know if it's minority community that I happen to be in or if that actually carries through with what you see on sales.

If a developer or publisher came to you and said we are interested in implementing steamworks, but it will cost x dollars, do you believe that is worth it for us at the end of the day? What would you say as the dude who runs the video game end of one of the biggest (the biggest?) internet retailers?

I understand if you can't talk specifics, or maybe even at all, about it. I was just wondering. Thanks.
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Good question. It is still a bit early to comment on that question specifically for a couple of reasons:

1. We haven't directly tested Steam vs. non-Steam enough times to get enough data on the question.

2. I'm working with a couple publishers right now to try and get 2 versions of their games for Amazon to distribute, a Steamworks, and a DRM free version. We're going to try and be in a situation where we just let the customer decide what they want. At that point we'll be positioned better to understand which group is larger.

What I can say is that, in the instances where we had the choice between a DRM free and DRMed version the DRM free version has CRUSHED the DRMed version.

If I were talking to a developer I'd encourage them to go this route and get their game in as many distribution channels, appealing to as wide an audience as humanely possible.

Cheers,
Tony
 
I had most of what I wanted already, from the Ubi sale. Picked up Call of Juarez, since I have the second one on Steam.

I guess registration keys aren't considered DRM?
 
Zizbuka said:
I had most of what I wanted already, from the Ubi sale. Picked up Call of Juarez, since I have the second one on Steam.

I guess registration keys aren't considered DRM?
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Yeah DRM is an acronym for Digital Rights Management, which refers to software solutions designed to disable gameplay until something serverside "Activates" it via a connection to the internet.

The keys you got with the Ubi games are used to play multiplayer, which have nothing to do with activating your game.

Cheers,
Tony
 
Hesitantly got Sonic Generations.

And Steam vs non-Steam is an easy choice. I'm trying to ween myself off Steam because I'm tired of their broken library deleting my non-Steam shortcuts once a week. I don't think it's right to reward them for that by buying more Steam games.
 
chaosblade said:
Hesitantly got Sonic Generations.

And Steam vs non-Steam is an easy choice. I'm trying to ween myself off Steam because I'm tired of their broken library deleting my non-Steam shortcuts once a week. I don't think it's right to reward them for that by buying more Steam games.
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I thought I was only one having this problem. Seems it's much more prevalent than I thought. Randomly it will delete my non-steam games and I'm like WTF.
 
chaosblade said:
Hesitantly got Sonic Generations.

And Steam vs non-Steam is an easy choice. I'm trying to ween myself off Steam because I'm tired of their broken library deleting my non-Steam shortcuts once a week. I don't think it's right to reward them for that by buying more Steam games.
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Sonic Generations requires Steam.
 
Amazon Video Gamer said:
Yeah DRM is an acronym for Digital Rights Management, which refers to software solutions designed to disable gameplay until something serverside "Activates" it via a connection to the internet.

The keys you got with the Ubi games are used to play multiplayer, which have nothing to do with activating your game.

Cheers,
Tony
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does amnesia dark decent activate on steam?
 
cicero said:
Actually, the original bundle that Steam did had those listed as well. I got in early enough to get the Sonic games included in mine before they pulled them, but both Toejam & Earls were pulled until recently. Not sure if anyone has tried going back and getting them added since they were originally listed as being in the bundle.
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Well to a degree, I guess I stand corrected. I didn't realize that there was once a time when the Steam Genesis collection had everything included. I'm guessing that it probably wasn't $7.50 on Steam while it was still complete though.
 
Amazon Video Gamer said:
Yeah DRM is an acronym for Digital Rights Management, which refers to software solutions designed to disable gameplay until something serverside "Activates" it via a connection to the internet.

The keys you got with the Ubi games are used to play multiplayer, which have nothing to do with activating your game.

Cheers,
Tony
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Except it wouldn't let me install the game without entering the key.

Don't want to split hairs here. I think I was just annoyed that I couldn't copy/paste the key, had to enter it manually, which required some alt-tabbing.

Just lazy that way.
 
Zizbuka said:
Except it wouldn't let me install the game without entering the key.

Don't want to split hairs here. I think I was just annoyed that I couldn't copy/paste the key, had to enter it manually, which required some alt-tabbing.

Just lazy that way.
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I see your point, and apologize for the inconvenience. When I (and I think most people) reference DRM they are referencing a software solution tacked on to the binaries of a video game that speaks to a server somewhere before allowing the game to be played.

The MP key just checks to make sure the key you put in could possibly work given the structure (which is why old school key generators existed).

Sorry again for the frustration :( definitely not what we were shooting for!

Cheers,
Tony
 
scitek said:
Sonic Generations requires Steam.
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I know. I'm not completely giving up Steam or refusing to buy games on there or Steamworks games elsewhere, but if another reasonable option is available (especially DRM-free) I'll jump on it over Steam until they get the non-Steam shortcuts fixed (probably never).
 
Guys I just bought NBA2K12 for $9.99 on Amazon. I'm wondering how I get roster updates and patches...?

It just goes straight to the main menu and I can play exibition games. I can't play online as it says I can not connect to 2K servers.
 
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