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[IbizaPocholo]

AMD's new super CPU can run Crysis - no graphics card required

Last week saw the launch of AMD's latest big daddy CPU: the 64-core Threadripper 3990X. This thing is so beefy, it can …

www.vg247.com

 

[jackets with pockets]

Yeah, it's called a software mode. Was a thing a long time ago.

"AMD's new super CPU can run Crysis at a playable frame rate" would have been a better headline.

 

[NOLA_Gaffer]

I'll just wait for the 4400G, thanks.

 

[JordanN]

Just think, 1 year from now and they should be able pack 2x as many cores on the same chip.

That's going to be the sweetspot for me who wants to a build a new workstation PC. It's basically a render farm without occupying the same space.

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

cost £3,900 here. it bloody well better do more than just run Crysis.

 

[LazyParrot]

Just think, 1 year from now and they should be able pack 2x as many cores on the same chip.

How do you think they going to do that? Zen 3 is still 7nm.

 

[Kenpachii]

Meanwhile 9900k.

 

[JordanN]

How do you think they going to do that? Zen 3 is still 7nm.

Technically, it could still arrive next year if they use 5nm Zen 4.

 

[DESTROYA]

Not sure why this is surprising when AMD laptop APU's can run it

Crysis with HP Envy x360 15 - AMD Radeon RX Vega 10 and AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (2.30 GHz) 1080p, 1440p, Ultrawide, 4K Performance Overview
Ultra Quality

Resolution	Frames Per Second
1080p	15.4 FPS
1440p	9.3 FPS
2160p	0.0 FPS

High Quality

Resolution	Frames Per Second
1080p	50.4 FPS
1440p	28.3 FPS
2160p	9.0 FPS

Medium Quality

Resolution	Frames Per Second
1080p	71.4 FPS
1440p	55.3 FPS
2160p	25.0 FPS

Low Quality

 

[Deleted member 740922]

Those fucking video thumbnails....

 

[LazyParrot]

Technically, it could still arrive next year if they use 5nm Zen 4.

Average time between architectures seems to be around 14 months for AMD, so you probably shouldn't expect Ryzen 5000 until the end of 2021, and TR until mid 2022. And even then... expecting double the core count from a 2nm die shrink seems more than a little optimistic.

 

[octiny]

Not sure why this is surprising when AMD laptop APU's can run it

Crysis with HP Envy x360 15 - AMD Radeon RX Vega 10 and AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (2.30 GHz) 1080p, 1440p, Ultrawide, 4K Performance Overview
Ultra Quality

Resolution	Frames Per Second
1080p	15.4 FPS
1440p	9.3 FPS
2160p	0.0 FPS

High Quality

Resolution	Frames Per Second
1080p	50.4 FPS
1440p	28.3 FPS
2160p	9.0 FPS

Medium Quality

Resolution	Frames Per Second
1080p	71.4 FPS
1440p	55.3 FPS
2160p	25.0 FPS

Low Quality

I think you missed the point of the video. Threadripper doesn't have a GPU embedded in it's die.

It's a silly video just showing how far CPU's w/ no integrated graphics have come.

 

[LordOfChaos]

What a time we live in.

While it ran kind of crappy, I wonder what entirely CPU based graphics could be if things were actually optimized for them. Especially with AVX-512, though with all the extra cores here that probably would do just fine too.

Not sure why this is surprising when AMD laptop APU's can run it

Crysis with HP Envy x360 15 - AMD Radeon RX Vega 10 and AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (2.30 GHz) 1080p, 1440p, Ultrawide, 4K Performance Overview
Ultra Quality

Resolution	Frames Per Second
1080p	15.4 FPS
1440p	9.3 FPS
2160p	0.0 FPS

High Quality

Resolution	Frames Per Second
1080p	50.4 FPS
1440p	28.3 FPS
2160p	9.0 FPS

Medium Quality

Resolution	Frames Per Second
1080p	71.4 FPS
1440p	55.3 FPS
2160p	25.0 FPS

Low Quality

It's not running on an IGP, it's running entirely in CPU. So that's kind of crazy, given how much better GPUs are at this job.

 

[Allandor]

What a time we live in.

While it ran kind of crappy, I wonder what entirely CPU based graphics could be if things were actually optimized for them. Especially with AVX-512, though with all the extra cores here that probably would do just fine too.

Well, AVX512 would not help that much. As far as I know there is almost no calculation that can benefit from that in games. And if used, the cpu-cores clockrate is decreased quite significant.

But yes, if the engine would be optimised for cpu-tasks it would run way better. E.g. in the video crysis is not even really using all the cores. But well, this would be really really inefficient. It has its reasons why intel dropped that idea of many many tiny cpu-cores for a graphics card.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Well, AVX512 would not help that much. As far as I know there is almost no calculation that can benefit from that in games. And if used, the cpu-cores clockrate is decreased quite significant.

It's probably the most GPU-like structure on a CPU, as a massive SIMD array. Games don't use it right now, because they're not trying to run graphics on the CPU like this video, but I mean if they were reaarchitected completely to take advantage of a CPU, that would be an interesting area to look at for the most GPU-like parallelism. You'd have to drop clocks just like you have to for multicore turbo, but the aggregate performance is still higher.

It was more or less a direct response to GPUs gobbling up more datacenter BoM, after all.

 

[Trimesh]

Meanwhile 9900k.

I think you've entirely missed the point of this thread and the original video, which is about running Crysis in software rendering mode - yes, it will run better on a chip with an IGP and even better on a system with a video card, but that's not the subject here.