It scales well with more cores for avg but the game needs high frequency cores too and memory bandwidth.
In short needs the best you can afford.
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AMD Ryzen Thread: Affordable Core Act
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It scales well with more cores for avg but the game needs high frequency cores too and memory bandwidth.
In short needs the best you can afford.
Nostremitus
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Unless the car has it inside the fuel tank instead of on the line. Then labor is a pain in the ass as it's not something the regular Joe owner can easily replace.
Wolf Akela
Member
Any word on the release date for 1600 and Vega?
"Q2" for the Ryzen 5 chips.
CarbonFire
Member
According to that thread on Reddit, GTX 1070 for the 1440p tests.
I'm still tempted to wait just a little while to see if R5 1600X benchmarks leak soon. I wouldn't mind paying less for two less cores, especially if that means it overclocks better.
DT likely means desktop here.
It's interesting that they seem to be using the Ryzen branding across both their stand-alone CPUs and their APUs. If I'm not mistaken they've kept the branding separate for a long time now.
What A Time To Be Alive
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We don't know yet and probably won't know until tomorrow. JayzTwoCents has already said his Ryzen review will be a couple days late.
I think a lot of this has to do with the constant BIOS updates that has been done to motherboards. It's becoming more and more obvious that Ryzen was a forced launch and motherboard manufacturers are trying to catch up.
Could be either the main thing it's pretty shitty given launch day is the next day.
Coulomb_Barrier
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JayTwoCents is JayNoSense for a reason.
Hm, didn't notice it before but the lack of any mobile version specifically mentioning GFX likely means all mobile versions are APUs. And Ryzen Mobile was already announced for H2.
dr_rus
Member
It's pretty much classic AMD's product launch. Nothing really new here. No idea why these guys are surprised.
as supposed to what other launches? intel has had many screwups last few years.
There's almost no demand for mobile CPUs without integrated graphics. The vast majority of laptops sold don't have dedicated GPUs, and even for those that do the ability to switch to integrated graphics under low workloads gives you a longer battery life.
I was kind of hoping they'd break from this and release 8C/16T laptop chips without integrated graphics for the mobile workstation market (as Summit Ridge seems energy efficient enough to work in a mobile form-factor), but sadly I'd say laptop chips will be limited to 4C/8T.
AFAIK, the non-X models don't support "Extended Frequency Range" which apparently is automatic overclocking akin to a graphics card's boost mode. They all still have unlocked multipliers though, so manual overclocking is still possible.
What A Time To Be Alive
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I mean yeah, Broadwell-E launch had a huge amount of problems. Same with Skylake.
For the most part it is par for course but the thing that bothers me is the fact that BIOS updates has been rolling out every single day affecting the performance of Ryzen. It's a great thing for the consumer but bad for reviewers right now because they have been constantly re-doing tests.
I think everything will work out fine in the end though.
Irobot82
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Didn't the Broadwell-E motherboards from MSI or something actually kill chips?
Edit: I usually take it safe and get second gen on a socket so I know most of the kinds are worked out. Like Ivy Bridge after Sandy Bridge. Intels last few chips have been on the same Socket so generally you know they are safer bets.
Sure, but somehow I expected them to take longer with the APUs and fill the time with plain CPUs even for laptops. Especially with the previous comment that Zen based semi-custom solutions (which are all adaptions of APUs) are beyond this year.
TC McQueen's listing says all models support XFR, but the X versions offer double the headroom for it to exploit.
Edit: Relevant slide:
Yeah, they did have Ryzen Mobile on a slide for this year, but they may be able to squeeze it in towards the end of the year. A single APU die (4C, RX460ish GPU) would be enough to cover a wide range of SKUs across desktop and laptop, which may be the route they're going (similar with a single Summit Ridge die covering all their GPU-less Ryzen CPUs).
Would anyone recommend this RAM for a 1700X / Asus Prime X370-Pro build?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231929 (16-18-18-38, $119.99)
or this:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231914 (16-16-16-36, $122.99)
Maybe the tighter timings are worth the extra $3.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231929 (16-18-18-38, $119.99)
or this:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231914 (16-16-16-36, $122.99)
Maybe the tighter timings are worth the extra $3.
I have the 16-16-16 RAM. It works, so ya, get that.
You're not going to notice a difference, but for $3 to get equal. sure.
Ordered. Thanks!
What's a common CPU cooler people are getting? All I have left to order is that and a case.
I remember Phenom and Bulldozer had interesting bugs, the former needed a CPU revision. Best wait at least 3 weeks for reviewers to pick out any long term issue.
Unknown Soldier
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I wonder who's going to drop the first review.
I wonder when Anandtech will drop theirs.
I wonder when Anandtech will drop theirs.
Ricerocket
Member
Shouldn't matter who releases first anyways. Just look forward to when game benchmarks are allowed.
RenegadeXV8
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There's always that one website that "accidentally" posts their review early.
NeOak
Member
Jesus
FF Seraphim
Member
Oh god yes
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
If this actually pans out, holy hell....
Unknown Soldier
Member
LMAO The WTFTech Cycle just turns and turns
Wait for the real reviews guys
Wait for the real reviews guys
Wolf Akela
Member
CS:GO was that heavily CPU bound?
rokkerkory
Member
Amd ftw
All source games are mostly CPU bound. But in this current state CSGO is still well optimized. I get constant 200fps+ with a 4760k.
still waiting on full GAMING benchmarks. can care less about synthetic benchmarks.
CS:GO at 720p low settings is NOT a good testing benchmark.
I've already seen one leaked benchmark showing sub 30 min fps in GTA V. If the min fps for AAA games are much lower than intel's it's a fail for me.
CS:GO at 720p low settings is NOT a good testing benchmark.
I've already seen one leaked benchmark showing sub 30 min fps in GTA V. If the min fps for AAA games are much lower than intel's it's a fail for me.
WELP. Guess I'm building a Ryzen gaming box.
DonMigs85
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But they'll be vindicated if it turns out to be true
Yeah, this so much. When the real benchmarks come out and show the opposite then everyone will go
"Oh I dun goofed Gaf"
"AMD still stay loosing"
"Bu bu bu those leaks!?"
Rentahamster
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Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Surely CS:GO at 720p would expose the miniscule fps differences between CPUs better than trying to using GTA5.
I don't know what some of you are expecting. Playing games at 1080p or above using a card on the level of 1060, 470, 970, 390X, 1070 etc, the differences between Ryzen and a 7700K or even a 4790K are going to be utterly irrelevent and fps will be indistinguishable.
Minimum frames will be the same. In terms of average fps, you'd need a Titan X and play at 720p to expose differences, and even then these 3-8 fps differences are not detectable by tge human eye.
They keep doing this schtick for hits 😨
The benches are from reddit not them, they're just cross posting.
We will find out in 4 hours. If it matches 5960X I'm in