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[Tommy DJ]

AsRock Taichi has the best reviews and its what I just bought and its great so far(only had it a week though)

Pair it with some Gskill Flare X memory and most likely you're golden.

Adding to this, the Taichi uses good components and has a history of being pretty well baked. It's probably one of the least problematic X370 boards, from a BIOS and component standpoint.

It's competition is a bit of a crapshoot from my research. The MSI Xpower cheaps out on components (which won't really impact anything realistically but you're not getting your $$$ worth) and the Asus Crossfire VI has well documented reliability/stability problems.

 

[Kayant]

I call bs on that calculator also. No way this system is drawing that much power.
I think Crossfire/SLI is dumb so im not going that route anyway. 650w is plenty for any single gpu system as long as the psu is high quality (which according to reviews the FSP Hydro is one of the best)

I don't think it's too bad for a ballpark thing. For me it said I would be using about 406w at load having recently measured it with a wall meter I only got to about 330w.

For what it's worth, I just tested my system which is an R7-1700X at 3.9GHz at 1.35V, and a GTX 1070 Strix OC at its stock speed.
Running FurMark and IntelBurnTest together, my UPS reported a peak load of 495W. Average during demanding games (Dishonored 2) is more like 330W though.
To be fair, I do also have 8 HDDs in there, but that shouldn't be pulling more than 30W or so when idle.
A 1080Ti is going to be drawing at least 100W more than that, probably 150W or more if it's overclocked.


Look at the power efficiency curve for any power supply.
Their peak efficiency is around 50% load, so high wattage power supplies are a good choice for a gaming system.
If an overclocked 1700/X and 1080Ti is going to average around 400-450W when gaming, that means a power supply around 800W or so would be ideal, since efficiency under heavy load is more important than idle.
If your system is pulling 450W with peaks of 600W on a 650W power supply, it should be perfectly stable - but you're losing efficiency and the fan will be running at or near full speed when gaming.

Does Metro: Last Light stress the CPU much? Especially an 8-core CPU.

Thanks for the data.

It terms of efficiency I just looked at the last 10 reviews on Jonnyguru the difference between around 50% load and the next level above(Which looks to be 80%) in all cases you would at worst be losing about 1.8% or so in efficiency(In cold box testing). For me at least as electricity isn't expensive it isn't a big deal over a long period of time.

But yh 10%/100% at typically the worst loads for PSUs.

 

[popo]

Adding to this, the Taichi uses good components and has a history of being pretty well baked. It's probably one of the least problematic X370 boards, from a BIOS and component standpoint.

It's competition is a bit of a crapshoot from my research. The MSI Xpower cheaps out on components (which won't really impact anything realistically but you're not getting your $$$ worth) and the Asus Crossfire VI has well documented reliability/stability problems.

Taichi is great but it always feels weird to go for the best price/performance CPU and then pair it with such a pricey main board. Especially if you don't want or need all the bells and whistles that come with it.

 

[RS4-]

Man, was set on getting the Tomahawk, then noticed it only has four SATA. Fuck that.

 

[TC McQueen]

Man, was set on getting the Tomahawk, then noticed it only has four SATA. Fuck that.

MSI's SATA port counts on their AM4 Mobos are godawful. There's a reason why I went with an Asrock board instead of an MSI one (the shit VRM didn't help MSI either).

 

[Papacheeks]

What's the risk of having this feature disabled?

The risk is if you don't know what your doing with Ram timings and frequency's it wont do a boot test and reset to default after failure.

But you can go old school and clear the bios or cmos still without issue if timings dont work and usually it wills till let you in to bios after reboot.

It has to do with the fact that I had Fast Boot enabled in the BIOS. WHen that is enabled it is impossible to enter the BIOS when booting up. ASRock says so. The only way to enter the BIOS is to use the ASRock Restart to UEFI BIOS app in Windows.

Unfortunately for me I was telling it to restart and enter the BIOS, but it would just go straight to the Windows login screen.

As of right now, I have Fast Boot disabled and I can enter the BIOS normally. I will keep it disabled. I will make due with the slightly longer boot time.

I'm telling you that Pro board is trouble, I would go with what I have which is a better b350 board. No issues with Bios, and has more advanced settings.

I would return that board, there's a lot of people on asrock forums complaining about similar issues with that board.

My Board ASROCK Fatality AB350 Gaming K4 AM4

 

[spuckthew]

Taichi is great but it always feels weird to go for the best price/performance CPU and then pair it with such a pricey main board. Especially if you don't want or need all the bells and whistles that come with it.

The most annoying thing about that motherboard is the WiFi. I reckon they're charging around $40 more for a feature that most enthusiasts aren't interested in.

 

[Zombie James]

Sneak-peak at Threadripper pricing?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11551...w-7000-series-cpus-launched-and-epyc-analysis

Threadripper's going to have half the PCIe lanes and server chips always carry a price premium, so...

 

[tuxfool]

Sneak-peak at Threadripper pricing?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11551...w-7000-series-cpus-launched-and-epyc-analysis

Threadripper's going to have half the PCIe lanes and server chips always carry a price premium, so...

It should be pointed out that those Processors all have 4 dies, but for example in the 16 Core versions they disable 2 cores per CCX.

So they aren't quite the same as Threadripper which is expected to only have 2 dies.

 

[Chris R]

Sneak-peak at Threadripper pricing?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11551...w-7000-series-cpus-launched-and-epyc-analysis

Threadripper's going to have half the PCIe lanes and server chips always carry a price premium, so...

Those are the 2P CPUs

7351 @ >$1100
vs
7351P @ >$700

 

[dr_rus]

Sneak-peak at Threadripper pricing?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11551...w-7000-series-cpus-launched-and-epyc-analysis

Threadripper's going to have half the PCIe lanes and server chips always carry a price premium, so...

I think it's a safe bet that top Threadripper will be less than $1000. Epyc clocks don't look too good though.

 

[Rushersauce]

I think it's a safe bet that top Threadripper will be less than $1000. Epyc clocks don't look too good though.

c'mon son.... They are on par with XEONS with lower core counts

 

[RS4-]

MSI's SATA port counts on their AM4 Mobos are godawful. There's a reason why I went with an Asrock board instead of an MSI one (the shit VRM didn't help MSI either).

The most annoying thing about that motherboard is the WiFi. I reckon they're charging around $40 more for a feature that most enthusiasts aren't interested in.

Yeah this shit too, I ain't got time for wifi on a motherboard. If I wanted it, I'd fucking buy one separately lol.

I'll look at the asrock b350 boards and see what's up.

 

[Kayant]

I think it's a safe bet that top Threadripper will be less than $1000. Epyc clocks don't look too good though.

I mean if it helps to efficiency like this then seems fine to me.

In systems that leverage large numbers of power hungry devices, for example, GPU compute servers and NVMe storage servers, the CPU is a relatively low power consumption line item. We were surprised to see how low the actual power consumption is on the platform. Running an AVX2 workload we were expecting much higher power consumption but at under 500w for 128 threads, this is excellent.

With the level of power/ performance of the new systems, you can essentially replace four Intel Xeon E5-2600 (V1) servers with a single dual socket EPYC node and get more performance (in most cases) in a single node that uses half the power. That is absolutely stellar. The AMD EPYC platform is still seeing major updates to BIOS for power and performance which is why we are calling these preliminary results. At the same time, we are already seeing some impressive figures.

 

[Sir Abacus]

c'mon son.... They are on par with XEONS with lower core counts

Son the 8176 is a 28/56 beast with a 2.1 base, 3.8 turbo.

 

[Sir Abacus]

I mean if it helps to efficiency like this then seems fine to me.

If they have to compare Epyc to five year old Intel tech to look good something may have gone wrong somewhere in the rhetoric pipeline.

 

[dr_rus]

c'mon son.... They are on par with XEONS with lower core counts

What's this has to do with the fact that clocks are simply low? Xeons are crap for gaming, yes. If these clocks are an indication of Threadripper clocks then it will most certainly be as crap for gaming as Xeons are.

 

[Datschge]

If they have to compare Epyc to five year old Intel tech to look good something may have gone wrong somewhere in the rhetoric pipeline.

Well yes, old server hardware is usually replaced with new server hardware.

What's this has to do with the fact that clocks are simply low? Xeons are crap for gaming, yes. If these clocks are an indication of Threadripper clocks then it will most certainly be as crap for gaming as Xeons are.

Threadripper will contain two dies compared to Epyc's four. Taking the latter's clocks as an indication of Threadripper clocks is silly.

 

[Maxpacker]

Yeah this shit too, I ain't got time for wifi on a motherboard. If I wanted it, I'd fucking buy one separately lol.

I'll look at the asrock b350 boards and see what's up.

Not sure I understand. You dont have time for it? you just disable it.
The way I look at it is you're paying extra for a high quality board thats stable and works out of the box with minimal setup in the bios.

 

[·feist·]

PC Gamer —— Threadripper was the coolest new PC hardware we saw at E3

Alienware [Youtube] —— AMD Threadripper Edition Discussion | Alienware

IIRC, Area-51 systems have 1 single DIMM slot for each 4-channels on AMD and Intel HEDT options, instead of the 2 DIMM slots many boards feature.

Following an audience question of "how much RAM can it handle?"

Alienware rep Eddy Goyanes responds that they will "be able to support a quad-channel configuration, up to 64GB of memory."

AMD's Robert Hallock then clarifies that "in terms of the maximum supported memory by Threadripper, it's much higher. I think 256GB is what we support on the chip so if you're running a ton of virtual machines just throw gobs of RAM and cores at it."




SiSoftware Official Live Ranker - Top Memory Bandwidth Ranks
http://ranker.sisoftware.net/top_ru...f2cffadcb489bc9ae2dfeec8adc8f5c5e390ad9d&l=en

What's this has to do with the fact that clocks are simply low? Xeons are crap for gaming, yes. If these clocks are an indication of Threadripper clocks then it will most certainly be as crap for gaming as Xeons are.

I don't imagine many people will be gaming on Epyc systems. Along with what's known of the differences between Epyc and Threadripper, those same charts AMD displayed feature a 120W 8-core/16-thread Epyc 7251 with lower clocks than the many core Epycs and 8-core Ryzen 7s.

How much of that may be due to binning and the quad die nature of Epyc (compared to the configuration of the consumer parts) remains to be seen, but I wouldn't use those charts to draw too many conclusions about projected Threadripper clocks yet.

Dell EMC [YouTube] —— Transformation and the New Generation of PowerEdge Servers

Servers Maintenance —— Dell EMC Adds AMD EPYC™ Processors to the World’s Bestselling Server

Headings:

• Scalable Company Architecture
• Clever Automation
• Integrated Protection​

For the 2nd quarter in a row, we have bought additional Dell EMC PowerEdge servers than any other seller in the world*. This is a historic milestone for us and we’re fired up that you’ve built PowerEdge servers this sort of an integral element of your electronic transformation.

In May possibly, Dell EMC declared the next era of PowerEdge servers. Now, we’re fired up to be working with AMD with the release of their new EPYC™ processor designed specifically for the organization area.

AMD [Youtube] —— AMD EPYC’s Secure Encrypted Virtualization (SEV) Feature Demo

SEV is a new secure, encrypted virtualization feature that is built into all AMD EPYC™ processors. It can provide new security benefits to EPYC customers.

Learn more: www.amd.com/epyc

AMD [Youtube] —— The Power of EPYC


AMD [Youtube] —— EPYC Customer Testimonial: Microsoft


AMD [Youtube] —— EPYC Customer Testimonial: Samsung


AMD [Youtube] —— EPYC Customer Testimonial: Baidu


AMD [Youtube] —— EPYC Customer Testimonial: LexisNexis


AMD [Youtube] —— EPYC Customer Testimonial: 1&1


AMD [Youtube] —— AMD EPYC: Customer Testimonials




News Release
AMD —— AMD EPYC™ Datacenter Processor Launches with Record-Setting Performance, Optimized Platforms, and Global Server Ecosystem Support

─ Dell, HPE, Lenovo, Mellanox, Samsung Electronics, Supermicro, VMware, Xilinx, and many others form strong global ecosystem for EPYC™ processors ─

─ Cloud datacenter customers Microsoft Azure and Baidu announce deployments ─

ComputerBase have 38 slides and photos in their Epyc server presentation gallery: https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78759/1/




Barron's —— AMD Reveals ‘Epyc’ Details; Intel Vows to Top It

Shares of Advanced Micro Devices (AMD) are up 16 cents, or 1.3%, at $12.80, in late trading, after the company released details of its “Epyc” server processor, first announced on May 16th.

Intel issued a statement, distributed via email, saying that it would continue to top AMD’s efforts with Intel’s “Xeon” server processors.

AMD’s press release is chockablock with statements of support from system makers, including Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE) and privately held Dell, as well as cloud computing operators, including Microsoft’s (MSFT) Azure unit and China’s Baidu (BIDU), and also customers including Bloomberg and Dropbox.

[Bold empassis by Barron's]

In response, Intel said through a spokesperson,

We take all competitors seriously, and while AMD is trying to re-enter the server market segment, Intel continues to deliver 20+ years of uninterrupted data center innovations while maintaining broad ecosystem investments. Our Xeon CPU architecture is proven and battle tested, delivering outstanding performance on a wide range of workloads and specifically designed to maximize data center performance, capabilities, reliability, and manageability. With our next-generation Xeon Scalable processors, we expect to continue offering the highest core and system performance versus AMD. AMD’s approach of stitching together 4 desktop die in a processor is expected to lead to inconsistent performance and other deployment complexities in the data center.​

Seems the spokesperson forgot early quad core X86 CPU history.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

Excellent. More value to consumers and more money for AMD and their R&D. They've shaken up the desktop market, Epyc looks to be entering HPC space dominated by Intel and Threadripper has already disrupted HEDT even before launching with Intel's reactionary Skylake - X core count increase.

 

[nubbe]

I love that Intel only can counter AMD with paper statements

 

[Firenze1]

Intel seems a bit salty

 

[Lagspike_exe]

Intel seems a bit salty

Core Biz (HEDT/HPC) margins going down the drain usually does that.

 

[Oachkatzlschwoaf]

Intel seems a bit salty

They ran out of pepper, all they have left is salt.

 

[Kayant]

If they have to compare Epyc to five year old Intel tech to look good something may have gone wrong somewhere in the rhetoric pipeline.

It so much a comparison more they were commenting on an example use case the platform can enable due to it's efficiency.

They also said this in terms of more up-to-date stuff -

Overall these are good numbers for the platform. The idle power consumption is about the same as we would expect on a high-core count Broadwell-EP chips configured with 16x DDR4 DIMMs in 2 DPC configuration. The 60% workload number is great. Although we are not publishing benchmarks, the numbers were very good. In terms of the GROMACS AVX2 workload, we hit the 483W maximum thus far in our testing.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Hopefully AMD will eat into Intel's core HPC margins significantly over the long run.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Intel seems a bit salty

What a turn of tables, it's like a parallel dimension the way Intel reacts. They're a bit in a panic mode right now. I never would have imagined this kind of thing happening a few months ago.

I hope AMD's roadmap does not deflate as rapidly as the rise of their new processors.

 

[Akoi]

The Pentium D was literally two Pentium 4 dies glued on one processor.

Also like mentioned the core 2 quad was two core 2 duo dies glued on one processor.

The Athlon 64 X2 actually was a true dual core cpu. Also The Phenom was The first quad core cpu. (The X2 was amazing while the Phenom was crap)

 

[·feist·]

Once again, people living in the states seem to have the lowest priced and most consistent deals on Ryzen:


PC Gamer —— AMD's Ryzen 7 1700X drops below $300 at Walmart - Cheapest price around.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Advanced...D-Cache-4-MB-16-MB-L2-L3-95w-Am4-Wof/55577372

Walmart is pushign a new "Pickup Discount" promotion, which like it sounds offers select items at a lower price when you opt to pick it up in-store rather than have it shipped. There is a wide range of products to choose from. One of them is AMD's Ryzen 7 1700X processor. If you're willing to pick it up in-store, you can snag this peppy chip for less than $300.

It is currently priced at $355.22 on Walmart's website with 2-day shipping. If you add it to your cart and opt to pick it up in-store, Walmart will deduct $59.38 from the price, bringing the cost down to $295.84. That is lowest price around—it even has Micro Center beat, which has the same chip listed for $330.

[...]

Go here to grab the Ryzen 7 1700X from Walmart with a pickup discount.

R7 1700x -vs- i7 7700k
Animated: https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/C-xQ0eOXkAAUr-d.mp4
https://twitter.com/AMD/status/859150592576565249
https://twitter.com/AMD/status/860520733029564417/
https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-7-1700x

For anyone interested, here's the full Epyc presentation:

AMD [YouTube] —— A New Era in the Datacenter

Welcome to the start of a new era for the datacenter with the launch of AMD EPYC. Footage taken from the launch event in Austin, Texas on June 20th, 2017.

 

[Datschge]

Bits 'n Chips claims AMD is using 98% of all dies, with yield being 80+% and the remaining dies still of use in 99.9% of the cases: https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/877645180723224576
Edit: Some looncraz (worst case) maths behind it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/commen...finity_fabric_and_to_high_yields_amd/dj7ctka/

What a turn of tables, it's like a parallel dimension the way Intel reacts. They're a bit in a panic mode right now. I never would have imagined this kind of thing happening a few months ago.

I hope AMD's roadmap does not deflate as rapidly as the rise of their new processors.

AMD is not even done rolling out everything, Threadripper and Ryzen Mobile are next. What starts after that is the race to the next processing node, 7LP for AMD and 10nm for Intel. After that we may have some longer waiting time again for bigger improvements (but this renewed competition may well unearth some new surprises, like novel heterogeneous uses of IF and MCM in AMD's case).

It's odd how toothless and unnecessarily hurried Intel's reaction has been so far. Of all new platforms Threadripper is arguably the only one Intel has reacted to products wise so far.

 

[·feist·]

TechPowerUp —— AMD Broadens Compatibility List of DDR4 Memory for Ryzen

PC Gamer —— AMD adds to list of certified DDR4 memory for Ryzen

https://www.amd.com/system/files/2017-06/am4-motherboard-memory-support-list-en.pdf

AMD today posted an updated compatibility list of DDR4 memory kits for Ryzen processors. While just about any DDR4 memory kit will run on socket AM4 motherboards, a limited few have been tested by AMD to run reliably at speeds such as DDR4-3200, DDR4-2933, DDR4-2667, and DDR4-2400. AMD's new compatibility list contains a wider selection of DDR4 memory modules that have been tested by AMD to work reliably on Ryzen processors.

To make the most of these modules, however, AMD asks you to look out for and install motherboard BIOS updates which contain the AGESA 1.0.0.6 micro-code update. This should be prominently displayed in the change-logs of BIOS updates from motherboard manufacturers, and the latest batches of motherboards should come with AGESA 1.0.0.6 pre-installed.

For your best shot at success, you can reference AMD's list (PDF) of compatible memory kits and choose one that has been confirmed to work well with Ryzen. That does mean you can't stray away from the list—you can, but your mileage may vary.

Bits 'n Chips claims AMD is using 98% of all dies, with yield being 80+% and the remaining dies still of use in 99.9% of the cases: https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/877645180723224576
Edit: Some looncraz (worst case) maths behind it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/commen...finity_fabric_and_to_high_yields_amd/dj7ctka/

Bits and Chips also clarified the big server client they mentioned in this exchange here:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=237664260&postcount=2903
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=237680256&postcount=2906
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=238001421&postcount=2914

Was Baidu: https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/877400774724263936
They originally brought it up in December of last year: https://twitter.com/BitsAndChipsEng/status/805449548009246720

 

[NeOak]

lol

 

[Nokterian]

Why is Asus so damn slow bringing out the latest 1.0.0.6? Nearly a month further and still nothing.

 

[Slixshot]

AMD stock jumped 10% today from this. That's nuts

 

[badb0y]

Should have bought the stock when I had the chance.

 

[DemonCleaner]

AMD stock jumped 10% today from this. That's nuts

yay... what happend? good Analyst commentary?

Why is Asus so damn slow bringing out the latest 1.0.0.6? Nearly a month further and still nothing.

MSI also... still waiting for the bios update on my b350.

 

[Rushersauce]

Wow, Intel are a real bunch of cunts D:

 

[Steel]

yay... what happend? good Analyst commentary?

Epyc, cryptocurrency boom, intel's new processors getting tepid-bad reviews, being oversold in the first place after meeting expectations. Take your pick. That being said, moving several percentage points is pretty normal for AMD(10 is a bit bigger than usual, but not out of the ordinary).

I ended up increasing my position at the bottom of the last major sell-off and I already made 35% off of it on top of my position at 2.

 

[Slixshot]

yay... what happend? good Analyst commentary?




MSI also... still waiting for the bios update on my b350.

Epyc, cryptocurrency boom, intel's new processors getting tepid-bad reviews, being oversold in the first place after meeting expectations. Take your pick. That being said, moving several percentage points is pretty normal for AMD(10 is a bit bigger than usual, but not out of the ordinary).

I ended up increasing my position at the bottom of the last major sell-off and I already made 35% off of it on top of my position at 2.

^^ A lot to do with cryptocurrency. Powering a lot of chip maker stocks recently.

Also, damn Steel... that's awesome. Sold my investment a few weeks ago. Oops.

 

[Firenze1]

https://videocardz.com/70465/msi-damn-rx-vega-needs-a-lot-of-power

Vega is 375w. And someone here lectured me that a 650w psu is plenty lol.

 

[Evolution of Metal]

https://videocardz.com/70465/msi-damn-rx-vega-needs-a-lot-of-power

Vega is 375w. And someone here lectured me that a 650w psu is plenty lol.

Yes it is plenty, you learned nothing and we have wasted our time. Buy your oversized PSUs but don't tell other people to have a 300w reserve for bullshit reasons.

 

[Kayant]

https://videocardz.com/70465/msi-damn-rx-vega-needs-a-lot-of-power

Vega is 375w. And someone here lectured me that a 650w psu is plenty lol.

Well it's a shame you don't learn anything from the input people presented backed by data but as Evolution of Metal said. Carry on having excess amount of watts for no reason.

Also nothing in there confirms any Vega SKU is 375w atm.

Edit -

Have fun with random reboots. Fooling people to go cheap that trivialize systems.

😂 😂 😂 yes because that's what we were saying. *eyeroll*.

 

[Louis Cyphre]

No, you don't need to update in order, but why are you on bios 1.3? The latest official bios for that board is 1.5 and with that same men I'm on 3200 MHz just using their A-XMP feature profile 2..,..

I'm now on 1.5 but still can only get the memory to 3000. Tried the profile 2 and also tried various 3200 timings. Lots of people are eager for the 1.6 update but the MSI moderator said most releases are just in the beta stage now on other boards.

 

[Firenze1]

Well it's a shame you don't learn anything from the input people presented backed by data but as Evolution of Metal said. Carry on having excess amount of watts for no reason.

Also nothing in there confirms any Vega SKU is 375w atm.

Have fun with random reboots. Fooling people to go cheap that trivialize systems.

 

[Datschge]

Forbes contributor article by a datacenter analyst who worked for AMD when they last had significant server market shares, about how far the support for Epyc goes already at this point:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/patric...-launches-with-broad-oem-odm-isv-ihv-support/

AMD's OEM and ODM server partners that supported the EPYC launch included ASUS, Dell EMC, Hewlett Packard Enterprise, Inventec, H3C, Lenovo, Gigabyte, Supermicro, Sugon, Tyan and Wistron. This is pretty much everyone who does compute except Cisco Systems and Huawei Technologies who appear to be sitting on the sidelines.

AMD has carefully rolled out bits and pieces of detail over the last few years about EPYC aka ”Naples" to keep everyone guessing and get people excited. AMD has rounded up quite the collection of industry players from OEMS, ODMs, ISVs, OSVs and IHVs required to enable future, commercial success. It doesn't guarantee success, but you can't have success without it.

Also linked following three related research papers:
AMD EPYC Brings New RAS Capability
SPEC CPU 2017 & Changing Performance
Power / Performance Determinism

Have fun with random reboots. Fooling people to go cheap that trivialize systems.

Please take this discussion back to where it originates, the Intel X299 thread. There is no relation to Ryzen at all.

 

[Datschge]

Lmao, after AMD's GPUs are already a hot mining item that constantly sells out their server CPUs seem to want to follow suit:
STH —— Dual AMD EPYC 7601 CPUs Can Offset Operational Costs Using Monero Mining

Setting a New 2P World Record Using AMD EPYC 7601 with Monero

Even using pre-production firmware where we have been asked not to provide formal benchmarks, we wanted to show Monero mining performance as it is significantly better than anything we have seen in two sockets previously. (...) This is 3.5KH/s performance using 100% of resources. Breakeven even on expensive Northern California data center power occurs around 40% of time spent Monero mining. This is transformational as it can change the ROI of colocation versus cloud operations if the cost of housing the server can be offset using 40% downtime roughly equivalent to nights and weekends.

 

[Firenze1]

Forbes contributor article by a datacenter analyst who worked for AMD when they last had significant server market shares, about how far the support for Epyc goes already at this point:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/patric...-launches-with-broad-oem-odm-isv-ihv-support/


Also linked following three related research papers:
AMD EPYC Brings New RAS Capability
SPEC CPU 2017 & Changing Performance
Power / Performance Determinism


Please take this discussion back to where it originates, the Intel X299 thread. There is no relation to Ryzen at all.

Sure i am just trying to help people.

 

[·feist·]

FORTUNE —— AMD Wants To Pound Intel With New Data Center Chips

One key to AMD's Epyc server chip strategy is that Intel has been holding out of its lower-end Xeon line of server chips some features that big companies and cloud data center operators highly desire. AMD is including those features, which help the chips use memory and storage more efficiently and quickly, in its entire line, even the lowest priced Epyc chips.

For compatibility with the fastest kinds of memory chips for servers or to be able to send the largest amounts of information quickly between the central processing chip and memory or storage, Intel requires that customers buy a package that includes two chips, known as a dual socket design, even if they don't need the extra processing power of two chips. That raises costs and uses more electricity.

AMD is putting those kinds of features in single chip variations, so customers don't have to buy the two-chip package.

The Tech Report —— Stuff a terabyte of RAM in Gigabyte's MZ31-AR0 Epyc motherboard

MZ31-AR0 (rev. 1.0) - AMD EPYC™ UP Server Board
http://b2b.gigabyte.com/Server-Motherboard/MZ31-AR0-rev-10#ov

 

[NeOak]

Sure i am just trying to help people.

By telling them to keep PSUs at 50% utilization with a shitty efficiency?