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[SolidQ]

RDNA5 is another big architecture change so how long they will support RDNA3 and 4?

I think RDNA4 will last longer, due better AI, than RDNA3

 

[winjer]

I think RDNA4 will last longer, due better AI, than RDNA3

But RDNA3 is being cripple by AMD on purpose. They already have the INT8 version of FSR4.
AMD should just release it with their drivers.

 

[welshrat]

But RDNA3 is being cripple by AMD on purpose. They already have the INT8 version of FSR4.
AMD should just release it with their drivers.

Yeah agreed, I have 9070XT and am extremely happy with it, however my lads both have RDNA3 so I would like to see this feature come to their cards. My only hope is that they are doing further testing and will release soon. It makes sense now that the driver branch is RDNA3/4

 

[Panajev2001a]

But RDNA3 is being cripple by AMD on purpose. They already have the INT8 version of FSR4.
AMD should just release it with their drivers.

I believe in Steam Machine bringing FSR4 into the INT8 light!

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

Everything pre RDNA4 can fuck off according to AMD

Maybe AMD just listened to their customers. Many people who bought RDNA3 GPUs said that they chose AMD because they didn't want fake frames, sub native internal resolutions, not to mention RT gimmicks that only ruin performance. They got what they paid for, so what's the problem?

Spoiler: Spoiler

Yes, there is sarcasm in my post.

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

it is mentioned in the hardware unboxed video , timestamped

Hardware Unboxed discussed the negatives, but this YouTuber says that the new ML-powered FSR FG can work well in certain games if Vsync is forced (vsync fixed frame pacing issues), and he has noticed a drastic reduction in input lag compared to the previous FSR FG. The input lag bothered me with the software version of FSR FG, so if AMD has finally fixed the latency problem, their new ML powered FSR FG will be usable once they have sorted out the frame pacing issues in all games.

 

[DirtInUrEye]

Ancient Gameplays wings it.

 

[Bojji]

I had serious problems with FSR3 and frame pacing/Freesync compatibility when I had 6800 so I believe HU on this.

 

[Tallahassee]

Everything pre RDNA4 can fuck off according to AMD

 

[SolidQ]

AMD should just release it with their drivers they doesn't enough people to support two branches.

Maybe they doesn't have enough people to support different branches

 

[winjer]

Maybe they doesn't have enough people to support different branches

Then get the people needed.
Radeon will never compete with nvidia, if they have support for new tech, for just one generation.
FFS, DLSS4 works on the RTX 2000 series from 2018.

And what is going to happen to my Radeon 9070, when the UDNA GPUs are released? No more support for features updates?
If that is the case, then the message that AMD is saying is that I should have bought nvidia.

 

[SolidQ]

And what is going to happen to my Radeon 9070, when the UDNA GPUs are released? No more support for features updates

I think some features RDNA4 will have. UDNA maybe will get transformer and mfg. I think muy Rx 9070xt will stay until UDNA, unless UDNA1 have good prices

 

[AltruisticFormality]

Then get the people needed.
Radeon will never compete with nvidia, if they have support for new tech, for just one generation.
FFS, DLSS4 works on the RTX 2000 series from 2018.

And what is going to happen to my Radeon 9070, when the UDNA GPUs are released? No more support for features updates?
If that is the case, then the message that AMD is saying is that I should have bought nvidia.

I really think they should offer the INT8 version of FSR4 in some official capacity, maybe change the name and make it an option through Adrenalin for RDNA 3/2 users, slap a warning about potential performance degradation on lower end hardware if they need to.

I guess they had to make the cut at some point. Nvidia long term driver support seems better but they went though the same back with the RTX 20 series. Someone who bought a GTX 1080 in 2016 or a 1080 Ti in 2017 had no access to DLSS nor the other features launched with the RTX 20 series the next year.
RTX 20 and 30 users have no access to Nvidia FG, the lack of the "Optical Flow Accelerator" was the reason given at the time. DLSS4 no longer uses that dedicated hardware for Frame Generation.
RTX 40 users are also limited to 2x. MFG is a RTX 50 exclusive. Regardless of the value you assing to those features, Nvidia locking functionality to new hardware has been a constant for several generations. AMD copying that might be scummy but not surprising.

 

[Wolzard]

Then get the people needed.
Radeon will never compete with nvidia, if they have support for new tech, for just one generation.
FFS, DLSS4 works on the RTX 2000 series from 2018.

And what is going to happen to my Radeon 9070, when the UDNA GPUs are released? No more support for features updates?
If that is the case, then the message that AMD is saying is that I should have bought nvidia.

They have difficulty retaining talent because the salary is lower compared to other companies. In the end, they probably end up hiring less experienced developers or outsourcing to India.

https://www.amd.com/en/newsroom/pre...nces-plan-to-invest-approximately-400-mi.html

It is well known amongst AI engineers that the total compensation packages at AMD, which include base salary, RSUs (Restricted Stock Units), and bonuses, lag considerably behind competitors like NVIDIA, Tesla Dojo, OpenAI Chip Team, Google TPU, and xAI, etc.

In conversations with top AI software engineers about why they chose not to join AMD, many highlighted that working at AMD software feels like working on porting features that NVIDIA engineers developed two years earlier. In contrast, NVIDIA provides engineers with the opportunity to work on cutting-edge software and to build software for chips used in state-of-the-art models like o3, for both training and inference.

Additionally, engineers attracted to the "David" in a "David vs Goliath" scenario often choose Google TPU or the OpenAI Chip team over AMD. These teams offer significantly better compensation and arguably have a higher probability of success in competing against NVIDIA due to those companies having giant volume of internal workloads to be their own customers. This makes them more appealing options for ambitious engineers.

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