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Americans can study in Germany for free, in English

I mean, Frauenhofer invented amazing shit like MP3. Its not like they are bad institutes.

I wasn't saying that.

But they don't appear on such muh university rankings. Rankings designed around the American education/research system will run into massive problems with the German system.
 

El Topo

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The rankings are specifically designed in a way that puts (e.g.) German universities at a massive disadvantage and there is no real incentive for organizations to change this.
I vaguely recall an interview by one of the organizers (from many years ago), I think in Zeit, where they basically admitted that their rankings were utter bullshit (outside the US/UK).
That's okay. It's okay to have rankings with a specific design or intention. It's just important to keep that in mind.
 

Darksol

Member
My girlfriend and I live in Japan, but may consider this in the future. As a bonus, my family heritage is German and I've been looking for a reason to learn it.
 
Okay so this is an interesting idea.

My bachelors is in International Politics and History. I'm currently working in IT and would love to study for a masters in politics or a conversion course to CS. But I have only a few hundred GBP in savings.

I'm a UK citizen, so that means I am an EU citizen.

If my maths is right I'd probably need about €1100 a month to survive. A two year masters would thus be about the £14000 mark, if I was to take a part time job. (Which considering the course would be two years is pretty amazing).

So how would I finance this? Work for a few years and live off savings? Or is there finance options for poor post grads from within the EU?
 

Skab

Member
If someone was actually interested in this, what would be the best way to go about looking into fun a place to live or find a job?
 
Okay so this is an interesting idea.

My bachelors is in International Politics and History. I'm currently working in IT and would love to study for a masters in politics or a conversion course to CS. But I have only a few hundred GBP in savings.

I'm a UK citizen, so that means I am an EU citizen.

If my maths is right I'd probably need about €1100 a month to survive. A two year masters would thus be about the £14000 mark, if I was to take a part time job. (Which considering the course would be two years is pretty amazing).

So how would I finance this? Work for a few years and live off savings? Or is there finance options for poor post grads from within the EU?
If you want a masters, you can always work a student job (SHK) which could furnish you from €400-800 per month depending upon your hours of work (offered by the university with a contract). I am a political science master's student at the FU Berlin financing myself in such a manner. €1100 / month is perhaps an overestimation based upon your lifestyle.

Having some savings so that you can pay your deposit for your place of stay as well as cover odds and ends costs is also completely recommended.
 
Okay, so if I got a student job for €800 a month, that'd cover expenses? And I could work until leaving for the masters to have a money nest built up.

Hmmmmmmm.

I saw a Masters in PPE at Hamburg that really caught my eye. And iirc there is an FGC group in Hamburg.

HMMMMMMMMM.

And I could learn German. And having a Masters PPE would open a lot of doors in the government/policy sector.

I'll definitely look into this.
 

electr8r

Member
I have a bachelor's degree in music composition and don't really see any programs that will further me in that background. However, there's a bachelor's degree in digital games at the University of Cologne that I'm interested in. How do they treat students who want another degree that doesn't really advance their current study? Also, I'm 28 years old and know maybe 15 words in German.

Also, I have enough funds saved to be able to live a whole year even without a job. However, I will have to get a job to pay for expenses if I go. I don't want to dive into my savings at all, except for some minor investments
 
So I'm applying for FAFSA, and I hope I can use it for studying abroad. Apparently I can according to https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/prepare-for-college/choosing-schools/types/international#study-abroad, and right now I"m in the process of..finding....the federal codes for the schools that I'm looking into.

Edit-Looks like I have to wait until June until most schools start taking international applications..

Good luck, let us know how it goes and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions. :)
 
Good luck, let us know how it goes and don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions. :)

I'll definitely field questions here, and thanks~! Right now I'm looking to get into either game design(But I feel like it could be a trap degree..), Logistics, or Information Engineer. Something related to computer science. It'd be a bachelors degree, so there's fewer courses to it(My friend informs me I could go for a PHD though without getting a masters? I probably require a bachelors beforehand though?).

I emailed the German Consulate for some more information, and tomorrow morning I'm going to look into grants and scholarships.
 
I'll definitely field questions here, and thanks~! Right now I'm looking to get into either game design(But I feel like it could be a trap degree..), Logistics, or Information Engineer. Something related to computer science. It'd be a bachelors degree, so there's fewer courses to it(My friend informs me I could go for a PHD though without getting a masters? I probably require a bachelors beforehand though?).

I emailed the German Consulate for some more information, and tomorrow morning I'm going to look into grants and scholarships.

Yea going for a PHD without a masters while maybe theoretically possible (I'm not even sure about that) is going to be exceptionally difficult. As I can see no benefit for anyone offering such positions.

PHD students are used by professors as cheap teaching labour, they will expect someone with a decent masters degree.
And in general I would say for the bachelors you are less likely to specialise too much. Just go for a generic CS degree and do the specialisation during the MS.
Obviously choose a university that offers the MS degree you want as it will usually be much easier to stay at your university after getting a BS for the MS rather than switching university for the MS.
 
Yea going for a PHD without a masters while maybe theoretically possible (I'm not even sure about that) is going to be exceptionally difficult. As I can see no benefit for anyone offering such positions.

PHD students are used by professors as cheap teaching labour, they will expect someone with a decent masters degree.
And in general I would say for the bachelors you are less likely to specialise too much. Just go for a generic CS degree and do the specialisation during the MS.
Obviously choose a university that offers the MS degree you want as it will usually be much easier to stay at your university after getting a BS for the MS rather than switching university for the MS.

Gotcha, thanks for the tidbits.

Yeah, I'm going to go for the bachelors for now, and from what I've gleamed is that it's usually a general thread of what you're taught and then you specialize afterwards if you go Masters/PHD.
 
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