Amiibo Thread 3 | Where release dates are made up and preorders don't matter!

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ZiggyPalffyLA said:
Is it worth it to trade in my 3DS XL for a n3DS XL with GameStop's $100 trade-in credit? I do want Xenoblade 3D eventually but otherwise nothing looks too exciting this year.

Oh, and hopefully my Shulk preorder comes in by the time game comes out.
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If you like playing with you're amiibos, then yes.

If not, then no.
 
ZiggyPalffyLA said:
That's alright, I wasn't in a rush to spend more money anyway lol

How are you liking it so far?
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It definitely loads a bit faster, the buttons are nice and clicky, and the analog nub is surprisingly pretty good, even though I would've much preferred a second Circle Pad. Changing the micro SD is such a pain, more than it should be. Despite that, it's a nice upgrade, and playing games like Codename STEAM are great with that analog nub. Glad I got it!
 
Blue Namagem said:
At Nathan_Drake's request, I'd like us to end this convo as well, so I'll just say that those people celebrating their "trade fodder" aren't helping anyone, because they might as well be "you-know-who" with his middle finger up at a bunch of rares in a box. That's just not needed and adds nothing to the community. Your math makes sense, and I will concede that yes, people buying extra are keeping them from those who would want to rightfully buy them, but, at the same time, they're also keeping them from being bought by scalpers to make crazy profit. It's not the ideal scenario, but at least through trading, you don't have to pay way, way more than the price of the amiibo, though iteans at the cost of someone not getting it in store.

And that's all I have left to say on that matter. Let's move on and leave the negative talk behind already, in honor of our soon-to-come OT4!
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Thank you for seeing my point of view on this. Though, I do have to say the "if we don't get em, the scalpers will get them instead" mentality is very destructive and doesn't do anything but hurt the rest of the community.

Like, I saw some guy on here who went and snitched by calling GS corporate or something on some random dude with like 30 Toad preorders, then the next day I see him talking about how he has 3 or 4 Shulks or something, and all but one are for trade. Pretty hypocritical imo.

Nathan_Drake said:
You are just being salty because you failed to respond to my kind at cost Lucario offer the other night. Or maybe you were just ignoring me! Also disregard my PM pertaining to Metaknight
bwahahahahahaha for real if I get that extra let me know if you are still in need.
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Oh man, this past week has probably been the saltiest week of my life tbh lol. Missed

Your Lucario,
Shulk all three times
Sonic and Mega Man on Target.com,
Ike at TRU because some dude cut me and took the last one
Ike several times on Target.com
Meta Knight today
MMXLs/LEs at Target/GS/Amazon on Friday

And spent 3 hours in the freezing cold for the MM XL at a Target store but didn't get.

Anyways, when I saw the words PM and Meta Knight, I ran to check my PMs, then saw your spoiler and was like -_- lol. So yeah, if you get extras, lmk, definitely interested. Thanks

bumpkin said:
Geez, so now posting about having an extra of something for an even trade is "scalping"? Come on people. Now we're going to start fighting with each other? *sigh*
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Yes, it is "scalping", if it was bought for that express purpose.

theSlacker said:
Na, it's just a few people trying to equate the two.
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No one is trying to equate them because it's already the same thing. Anyone that understands even a bit of economics should be able to see that immediately. Otherwise you're just arguing semantics or don't understand.
 
skaflone721 said:
No one is trying to equate them because it's already the same thing. Anyone that understands even a bit of economics should be able to see that immediately. Otherwise you're just arguing semantics or don't understand.
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Whatever you say amiibro. It's not like people are using the word to describe a specific kind of scalping or anything, and even though I've acknowledged several times that, yes, while it is all "scalping" that there are different levels to everything. Oh, those aren't the posts you decided to quote from me? How interesting. No, lets respond to the one that has me implying that you are trying to make people feel like people getting a few extra from safety preorders or for trades is the same as people who are buying up entire stocks through multiple orders/taking advantage of places without limits just to control a larger amount of the stock so they can set higher prices because you can technically call both "scalping". Run on sentence.

Shit is tired at this point. Unless you have something new to add, we can agree to disagree on the issue. I have nothing to defend or self interest at stake since I don't even buy extra for trading. I do believe that people buying extra for 1 to 1 trading is way better then scalpers who are doing this to make money getting control of additional stock, and additionally the trading is used as a way to combat having to deal with that kind of scum, even if I do not do it.
 
The Nintendo PowerPoint has me a little nervous. I've refrained from ordering Amiibo's online, and have been successful finding all of Wave 1&2 in stores. Because of this overconfidence I didn't preorder wave 3 and is now paying the price (excluding exclusives of course). I think I'm going to wait till the beginning of March, but I may have to buy the ones I'm missing online.

I hope I don't miss wave 4 preorders.
 
theSlacker said:
Whatever you say amiibro. It's not like people are using the word to describe a specific kind of scalping or anything, and even though I've acknowledged several times that, yes, while it is all "scalping" that there are different levels to everything. Oh, those aren't the posts you decided to quote from me? How interesting. No, lets respond to the one that has me implying that you are trying to make people feel like people
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I'm sorry, am I supposed to know who you are or something? I saw that post and responded. I don't go around keeping tabs on other poster's histories.

getting a few extra from safety preorders
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I never said anything about safety preorders. I think I made that pretty clear

or for trades is the same as people who are buying up entire stocks through multiple orders/taking advantage of places without limits just to control a larger amount of the stock so they can set higher prices because you can technically call both "scalping". Run on sentence.
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Never said this. My point was that people claim they are helping the community by getting extras to trade, but if that really was the intention, why not get them sell to the community at MSRP? Because there are selfish motivations involved. Which is fine, but people try to mask it instead. If people truly wanted to combat "real scalpers" why not buy out all the stock and then hook people up who missed out here or on reddit or something? You're still combating them. No?

Shit is tired at this point. Unless you have something new to add, we can agree to disagree on the issue. I have nothing to defend or self interest at stake since I don't even buy extra for trading. I do believe that people buying extra for 1 to 1 trading is way better then scalpers who are doing this to make money getting control of additional stock, and additionally the trading is used as a way to combat having to deal with that kind of scum, even if I do not do it.
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Two wrongs don't make a right.

Sorry for dragging this out.

*runs*
 
Yayyyy this thread surpassed the million views today
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skaflone721 said:
Thank you for seeing my point of view on this. Though, I do have to say the "if we don't get em, the scalpers will get them instead" mentality is very destructive and doesn't do anything but hurt the rest of the community.
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It's a grey area for sure, I'll admit, because it does hurt the community a bit by not allowing more amiibos to be left in stores, though I feel straight-up reselling hurts even more, much more imo. Two wrongs definitely don't make a right in most things, though, which is the clear takeaway from this discussion. I just feel that trading has more potential to be mutually beneficial to both parties, unlike getting charged 5x the price. But that's just my opinion, and we should just leave it at that, okay?

Let's end the convo and move on to more pressing matters, like the end of OT3 and the beginning of...OT5?! It's more likely than we think!
 
Blue Namagem said:
Mario Party 10 Bundle with Mario Amiibo up for preorder from Target.com:

http://m.target.com/p/mario-party-10-mario-amiibo-bundle-for-nintendo-wii-u/-/A-17015936

Free shipping on $50+ orders, so jump on it quick!
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Thanks for posting but it is a better buy at Best Buy if you have GCU. You get a 20% discount which brings it from $59.99 all the way down to $47.99 before tax. Best Buy has free shipping on orders over $35

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/mario-p...ii-u/3208016.p?id=1219573004122&skuId=3208016
 
Blue Namagem said:
It's a grey area for sure, I'll admit, because it does hurt the community a bit by not allowing more amiibos to be left in stores, though I feel straight-up reselling hurts even more, much more imo. Two wrongs definitely don't make a right in most things, though, which is the clear takeaway from this discussion. I just feel that trading has more potential to be mutually beneficial to both parties, unlike getting charged 5x the price. But that's just my opinion, and we should just leave it at that, okay?

Let's end the convo and move on to more pressing matters, like the end of OT3 and the beginning of...OT5?! It's more likely than we think!
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I respect your opinion, but I don't think it's a matter of opinion. In order for that mutually beneficial scenario to occur, you screwed someone over to benefit yourself in the name of "fighting scalpers". We all know there's a third scenario that leaves everyone equally off, but selfishly, everyone ignores it and creates scapegoats to justify because it doesn't benefit them.

Anyway, I agree, we should move on. Sorry about that.
 
skaflone721 said:
I'm sorry, am I supposed to know who you are or something? I saw that post and responded. I don't go around keeping tabs on other poster's histories.
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The times I'm referencing you not responding to I was either directly responding to some of your posts, or responding to someone else you were also talking to in the middle of you talking to them. So unless you were logging out right after posting (and/or only reading specific peoples posts) you would have seen me quoting you highlighted, and I can't see why you would do that. Why in the world would I expect someone who I wasn't involved in a conversation with to know me, or know what I've been saying about something?

Moving on, some people do sell them for cost. I got my Rosalina from someone here for that. The reasons that not everyone does that and will trade instead is fairly simple. You can not be sure that who you are selling to isn't doing it just to resell, even here, and it is used as an alternative to paying the higher, scalper controlled, prices of the secondary market. As someone who doesn't care about the monetary value that scalpers and resellers have set for this stuff I see 1 to 1 trading as a decent alternative to selling for cost. Here is a post of mine from a few pages back on this matter:
theSlacker said:
Well I think it is more that what a person has dictates what they want from a trade. I would trade any of my amiibos (if I ever bought more then one of each, which I haven't yet) for one of the ones I don't have. It turns out the ones I don't have right now are 6 rares from the first two phases, and unreleased ones from the third, as well as Lucario. The tier lists that people are posting are irrelevant to me. As is the value that they are being sold for by scalpers. I don't do this to profit off of it, and will try not to help anyone else who does this with that as their intention.
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As such, my point of view is that people buying a few extra for trading isn't a "wrong" even if it can technically be called scalping, and even though I do not do it. The fact that it limits the money that someone who is doing this for the money can make is seen as a net gain by me, even though I've missed out on several of the recent online orders as well.

Feel free to PM me if you think there is more to discuss, even though I think we are at a POV difference. We have shit up this thread long enough.
 
skaflone721 said:
I respect your opinion, but I don't think it's a matter of opinion. In order for that mutually beneficial scenario to occur, you screwed someone over to benefit yourself in the name of "fighting scalpers". We all know there's a third scenario that leaves everyone equally off, but selfishly, everyone ignores it and creates scapegoats to justify because it doesn't benefit them.

Anyway, I agree, we should move on. Sorry about that.
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For the record, I never considered it a fight, more just avoiding them. Also, yeah, unfortunately, in this society, for that third scenario to prevail we'd each have to limit ourselves to one, but it's gonna be one side or another buying more, scalpers or traders/MSRP sellers. I prefer to side with thr latter over the former, fully realizing the implications of it. I'm not blind to that, but I certainly feel it's "the (much) lesser of two evils".

Anyways!

Sorry, couldn't help but reply yet again to that. Like we both agree'd, let's just move on already!
 
skaflone721 said:
Like, I saw some guy on here who went and snitched by calling GS corporate or something on some random dude with like 30 Toad preorders, then the next day I see him talking about how he has 3 or 4 Shulks or something, and all but one are for trade. Pretty hypocritical imo.
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Skaflone, earlier you mentioned a scenario where there are 300 of one amiibo and 100 collectors each grabbed 3 so that they could use 2 for trading, leaving 200 collectors empty-handed. What if 100 of those unfortunate 200 collectors were at the right place at the right time for the next amiibo that followed and they got 3 each, while the original lucky 100 missed it? Repeat this again, until each of the 300 people have triplicates of one amiibo while lacking the other two. Then they trade. Everyone paid the MSRP of 3, and everyone got all three amiibo.

What happens if instead the 100 collectors buy only the one, letting the other 200 people buy one without needing to trade? Well, another group of just 8 people wedge their way in instead, each grabbing 25 amiibo. They have no interest in trading. They'll sell them to the remaining 200 collectors for $60 a piece, 5X the MSRP, and each walk away with $1150 profit. These 200 collectors paid more for just one amiibo than the total each collector paid in the first scenario for all three amiibo.

The first scenario, in practice, isn't going to be as smooth as I laid out. There are some collectors that are just never at the right place at the right time. And there are some who are constantly at the right place at the right time. Ideally, the fortunate will be charitable to the unfortunate after their collections are complete, offering for small cash what couldn't be done by trade. But they keep the economy of the amiibo within the amiibo community. Scalpers, as shown in the second scenario, deplete the economy of the community.
 
Crom said:
Thanks for posting but it is a better buy at Best Buy if you have GCU. You get a 20% discount which brings it from $59.99 all the way down to $47.99 before tax. Best Buy has free shipping on orders over $35

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/mario-p...ii-u/3208016.p?id=1219573004122&skuId=3208016
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Damn, that's true, forgot about GCU and Best Buy. Didn't realize they still had it up. Well, never mind Target, unless you have free gift cards from Customer Service for a cancelled item, then calling and speaking to a supervisor to dispute it...fun times.
 
skaflone721 said:
I respect your opinion, but I don't think it's a matter of opinion. In order for that mutually beneficial scenario to occur, you screwed someone over to benefit yourself in the name of "fighting scalpers". We all know there's a third scenario that leaves everyone equally off, but selfishly, everyone ignores it and creates scapegoats to justify because it doesn't benefit them.

Anyway, I agree, we should move on. Sorry about that.
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The bottem line is that until Nintendo releases more stock, this problem will continue to exist and we are going to just have to deal with it. That third scenario will never ever happen, that's just reality.
 
Blue Namagem said:
Damn, that's true, forgot about GCU and Best Buy. Didn't realize they still had it up. Well, never mind Target, unless you have free gift cards from Customer Service for a cancelled item, then calling and speaking to a supervisor to dispute it...fun times.
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Did you have any luck disputing the cancellation? Mine was cancelled too.
 
Crom said:
Did you have any luck disputing the cancellation? Mine was cancelled too.
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The cancelled item in question was the Majora's Mask 3DS I was trying to get for a friend, when it was up last Friday for like 10 minutes. The order processed and charged, got confirmation and everything, but then outta nowhere it got cancelled. So I called and tried to get a resolution, but after 2 reps and a supervisor, nothing could be done. The supervisor gave me an extra $15 eGift Card on top of the one I already got when the cancellation happened, not that it helps much.

Ah well, I tried.
 
Well everyone, time for me to head out. Have a great night, talk to ya tomorrow, and, of course, here's to the close of OT3! It was a good run, and I'll see you all in...

Amiibo Thread OT5 | Because we didn't preorder OT4

or

"OT5: The Search for OT4"!

'night!
 
@theSlacker
Well, I only saw your one post to me, which I ignored because it was quite stupid without context. And the post you quoted here was irrelevant to my point.

As the rest of your post, it seems like you're twisting what I was saying and just using the same silly justifications again.

@Blue Namagem
It's not one side or the other and never was. That's what people like to believe though. As I said, there's a third side which combats scalpers just the same, but gets ignored because it doesn't benefit you.

@Maitiú
Man that's a whole lot of supposition and speculation. Rather irrelevant because we honestly don't know.

Also, it's exactly what's happening. EVERYBODY has started buying extras for trades. Maybe not in this thread, but other sites like reddit, gfaqs, CAG, etc have dozens and dozens of people talking about all the extras they picked up. Yes, resellers are in full force too, but so is everyone else.

That's why it's becoming 10 times harder than the last two waves this wave. Come on, 2-5 minute windows to get what you want? Crazy.

It's because of behavior like this people have deluded themselves into beveling is the lesser of two evils and then proceeding to act like they are helping others. Then they turn around and bash "scalpers."

@Jagsrock
Yeah I guess it's never going to happen because it doesn't benefit anyone except the one that had theirs taken away to go to some guy who will trade it on your behalf to benefit himself. Which is fine. It's the silly justifications that are not.
 
Hoarding rare amiibo for a "potential" trade is just another obstacle to buy amiibo. Metaknight had a limit of 3. I bet so many people took that oppurtunity to buy 2 or 3even in hopes for trading. They are taking amiibo away from people that want them and using them as bait. The trades ive seen offered are laughable. Scalpers buy stock and build a pay wall to go through, traders build a wall with a "you better have something I want" wall. People have gotten so scared with lack of supply they are sucking up multiples out of desperation. Not so much this board but reddit.
 
despite having 3 amiibo ship last week in two different shipments from two different retailers, none of the tracking numbers i was given are working. i even tried inputting them into different shipping websites to see if it was reported to use the wrong company. None are showing anything O.o
 
Zulithe said:
despite having 3 amiibo ship last week in two different shipments from two different retailers, none of the tracking numbers i was given are working. i even tried inputting them into different shipping websites to see if it was reported to use the wrong company. None are showing anything O.o
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I'm guessing they arrived at the carrier Saturday late enough that they didn't get processed and, due to Sunday and President's Day, have still yet to be. You'll probably get an update tomorrow morning.
 
I saw Megs in a store today (Austria, so it's a bit early) and noticed that the paintjob was very uneven at the edge of the, uh, upper pants area. This isn't common, no? I surely can do better than that.
 
It looks like Shiek may be another Diddy Kong. I found her at a TrU today and the guy at the counter said that she came in her own separate box like Luigi and Bowser usually do.

I was weak and caved in and bought a King DeeDee fro some dealer off Amazon for $25. Japanese version too, but I don't care. I'm gonna open him up anyway. I rather pay the extra than do all this hunting shit. If I can't get Sonic at stores, you can bet I'm going this route too.
 
Clown_im_OP said:
I saw Megs in a store today (Austria, so it's a bit early) and noticed that the paintjob was very uneven at the edge of the, uh, upper pants area. This isn't common, no? I surely can do better than that.
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The one I have has an imperfection like that on one of his sides. Like a little bit where the light blue goes down too low and the dark blue goes up too high.
 
Yeah like that, but it was more than a little bit. Noticed it immediatley.
 
skaflone721 said:
@Maitiú
Man that's a whole lot of supposition and speculation. Rather irrelevant because we honestly don't know.

It's because of behavior like this people have deluded themselves into beveling is the lesser of two evils and then proceeding to act like they are helping others. Then they turn around and bash "scalpers."
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You seem to know though. You seem to know that if these traders didn't grab their extras to trade with others, then everyone would be better off. The point is that they are keeping amiibos inside the amiibo collector community without hurting the community's economy/wallet, while the scalper is only wrecking the community's wallets. Not everyone will get one of everything no matter how they are distributed. Only Nintendo can make that happen by producing more. After people finish their collections they won't need to concern themselves with using any remaining extras as leverage, and they can sell them for MSRP + whatever other costs involved. If they don't, then they aren't traders, they are resellers, and then yes, they are just as useless as scalpers. Just remember, amiibos are the stupidest fucking "1st world" problem for people to have - If you aren't having fun, you're not doing it right.
 
I walked into TRU the other day hoping I could find Mega Man. They didn't have him. :(

Walked out with Toon Link and DK instead. Still waiting on my Sheik from GameStop to arrive.

Also while at TRU, I ran into my first broken amiibo still in box. It was a Peach amiibo.
 
Target canceled my ike, dedede and and sonic in the middle of the night. I had them preordered since December wtf. Did they just cancel my order to give it to the people who just purchased them when it went back up recently.
 
Today I learned why this store I wanted to buy Megs at can't break street dates: the register won't let them :-(
 
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