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Android Hardware Thread - 2009 Edition

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gimmmick said:
Knowing SE's pricing history, can we expect Xperia X10 to be priced 700+ dollars on release?

If this is the case the cases of me buying one are pretty high, anything higher than about 900 will probably bring me to just buy a Droid/wait for more Android phones to come out. I like the look of it and the UI is pretty sexy IMO.

Just a quick question, as this is my first cellphone purchase outside the one I got for free when I made a contract with T-Mobile (its one of the shitty Sony Ericson phones) I was wondering if I bought the Xperia (and it supports T-mobile) do I need to buy an additional contract with T-mobile or can I just switch out my SIM card to the new phone.
 
You could switch it out, but then you'd get assraped with data charges. You'd be better off getting the T-Mobile Android plan which was unlimited data or some other smartphone data plan.
 
for those with the droid Eris, how is your battery life? I keep reading that some people's battery won't even last a day, even with the task killer apps.
 
Maybe the Droid Eris has the same SMS bug as the Sprint Hero which doesn't allow the phone to ever truly go to sleep mode?

When I use the SMS app to cause that bug, my phone didn't make it through a day. Now that I'm using a downloaded SMS app (Handcent) avoiding the bug, it lasts a day+ with lots of texting, few calls and some browsing.
 
has anyone here upgraded from a myTouch 3G to the moto CLIQ? I'm wondering which has the best performance with the least amount of lag when flipping through the home screens, opening Apps, loading webpages, etc.
 
Well MyTouch is heading back to Tmobile and I'll be using my Blackberry pearl until the HD2 comes out.

Problems with calling forwarding, exchange and 1 day battery life are enough for me to ditch this phone.

Shame too... oh well.
 
The news regarding the HD2 being used as a Wifi router have me totally jazzed. I've been wanting something that like for quite a while. I've even thought about jumping a Clear "Hotspot" so I could have wifi anywhere, but I heard they had some issues. If I could just make my phone my wifi hotspot, all the better. I hope this trend catches on more, allow me to carry less devices but have internet anywhere :)
 
Qwell said:
The news regarding the HD2 being used as a Wifi router have me totally jazzed. I've been wanting something that like for quite a while. I've even thought about jumping a Clear "Hotspot" so I could have wifi anywhere, but I heard they had some issues. If I could just make my phone my wifi hotspot, all the better. I hope this trend catches on more, allow me to carry less devices but have internet anywhere :)

Wifi router already exists on WM phones especially HTC ones, it's not new to HD2. But the "trend", or the lack of it, is more because carriers trying to stop people from tethering their mobile data connection than anything.
 
Qwell said:
The news regarding the HD2 being used as a Wifi router have me totally jazzed. I've been wanting something that like for quite a while. I've even thought about jumping a Clear "Hotspot" so I could have wifi anywhere, but I heard they had some issues. If I could just make my phone my wifi hotspot, all the better. I hope this trend catches on more, allow me to carry less devices but have internet anywhere :)
There is an Android WiFi tether app out, need to be rooted though. I think it might be limited to a couple manufacturers, works great on my Hero though.
 
Husker86 said:
There is an Android WiFi tether app out, need to be rooted though. I think it might be limited to a couple manufacturers, works great on my Hero though.

Isn't HTC the only manufacturer with rooted phones?
 
jayb said:
for those with the droid Eris, how is your battery life? I keep reading that some people's battery won't even last a day, even with the task killer apps.

Its pretty bad. I had a fully charged battery at 2am and by 8am it was about 20%. Since then I have made some setting changes and it seems a bit better. I used the Sprint Hero for 2 weeks and I thought that had poor battery life. Hopefully with the soon to come updates it improves it.
 
TechCrunch said:
The next “super” Android device will almost certainly be a HTC phone that’s much thinner than even the Droid or iPhone – The Dragon/Passion. This is the phone the senior Android guys at Google are now carrying around and testing, at least as of a couple of weeks ago. If you’re willing to give up the Droid’s keyboard, the Dragon/Passion is going to be a really cool phone. It should be fully available very soon.

But it isn’t the Google Phone. Everything up until now has just been a warm up to the Google Phone.

Way more interesting are the rumors we’ve been hearing for months about a pure Google-branded phone. Most of our sources have unconfirmed information, which we describe below. But there are a few things we have absolutely confirmed: Google is building their own branded phone that they’ll sell directly and through retailers. They were long planning to have the phone be available by the holidays, but it has now slipped to early 2010. The phone will be produced by a major phone manufacturer but will only have Google branding (Microsoft did the same thing with their first Zunes, which were built by Toshiba).

There won’t be any negotiation or compromise over the phone’s design of features – Google is dictating every last piece of it. No splintering of the Android OS that makes some applications unusable. Like the iPhone for Apple, this phone will be Google’s pure vision of what a phone should be.

That’s it for confirmed, super-high confidence information, which frankly isn’t a whole lot more than we all heard back in late October. But we also have a few more details as well that we’ve gathered from a number of sources. Everything that follows we still consider to be just well-sourced rumors:

One source told us that HTC, a Taiwanese company, is building the new Google phone, but we think that information is incorrect. We have some fairly good information that suggests Google is working with a Korean phone manufacturer on the Google phone – LG or Samsung. Samsung has multiple parts in the iPhone and could be pressured by Apple not to work with Google, which says LG is the more likely partner for Google. So rumors like this one may be much more important than they first appear. But either way, the best information we have right now points directly at Korea as the birthplace of the Google Phone.

We’ve also heard from a good source that Google is planning a big advertising push around the device early next year – like January.
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/17/thegoogle-phone/

Hmm, seems kinda specific for a baseless rumor. Plus the mention of google people using the HTC Dragon/Passion, doesn't seem like google's thing to make their own phones, but you never know.
 
SSGMUN10000 said:
Its pretty bad. I had a fully charged battery at 2am and by 8am it was about 20%. Since then I have made some setting changes and it seems a bit better. I used the Sprint Hero for 2 weeks and I thought that had poor battery life. Hopefully with the soon to come updates it improves it.

If you go into settings, about phone and then status, is Awake Time 100%?

That's the reason the Hero's battery life sucks, turning off the default SMS app and using a app from the Market fixes it and makes a huge difference.
 
I hope that the Passion is based on the HD2. That 4.3" screen looks sweet. I'm gonna get the Droid on or about 12/5 but I hope there's more info available by that time so I can make a more informed decision. If indeed it is based on the HD2 I think I'll wait for that.
 
jonnybryce said:
If you go into settings, about phone and then status, is Awake Time 100%?

That's the reason the Hero's battery life sucks, turning off the default SMS app and using a app from the Market fixes it and makes a huge difference.


My awake time is 35%.
 
Pctx said:
Problems with calling forwarding, exchange and 1 day battery life are enough for me to ditch this phone.

What problems were you having with exchange? I have both mail and calendar (via calgoo app on my work PC) synced perfectly, and exchange calendar will be native in 2.0.

These phones all have 1-day battery life, unfortunately, although I usually still have about 10-15% at 36 hours if I forget to charge overnight.
 
The X10 to cost an arm and a leg :lol

Yikes! Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 to cost $879
Can you say sticker shock? A report out of the Wall Street Journal is reporting the highly anticipated Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 will cost around 6,000 Swedish kronor (or $879) in stores. I’m aware the United States Dollar is sinking like a rock and we could face hyperinflation next year, but $879 is a little surprising even to me. I guess this explains why we haven’t seen more Snapdragon phones in the market yet.

The most expensive Android phone to hit retail floors has been the Motorola Droid, which goes for $599 off contract.

We were hoping T-Mobile would pick up the Xperia X10, but that is one hefty subsidy they would need to offer in order to make this phone competitive. If the phone actually goes around $879, that would be about $43.95 each month on T-Mobile’s new 20-month equipment installment plan.

What do you guys think? Is anyone willing to throw down nine bills in exchange for the Xperia X10?

In its 3rd quarter earnings, Sony Ericsson reported a loss of $245 million. It was also reported that Sony Ericsson is closing four facilities and laying off 2,000 employees in a measure to cust costs.

Good thing I've been saving for this phone.
 
Pctx said:
Sup dudes....

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What are the 3G bands for the HD2?
 
gkrykewy said:
What problems were you having with exchange? I have both mail and calendar (via calgoo app on my work PC) synced perfectly, and exchange calendar will be native in 2.0.

These phones all have 1-day battery life, unfortunately, although I usually still have about 10-15% at 36 hours if I forget to charge overnight.

Not pushing when new mail came in. I had to retry the IMAP settings a couple of different ways in order for it to work right. Dunno, was pretty lackluster in the native form.

I did use Exchange by Touchdown which was a great app but had a lot of features I just didn't need.

Overall, on system usage, it came down to voice calls using 62% of my battery which I guess to me is about right since I'm on the phone quite a bit during the day.

Problems with phone forwarding was another big negative in my book of which to be honest, we tried 6 ways from Sunday to make the damn thing work but nothing would.

Also-- I get the whole "1 day" battery life thing I suppose on a 3G device now that I've owned one. To me, that just seems insane that I can't keep the device off the juice for less than 24hrs.

Now with my sights solely set on the HD2 phone, I'm hoping they have made improvements in battery life at least somewhat.
 
SimleuqiR said:
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What are the 3G bands for the HD2?

From their page:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hd2/specification.html
Network Bands2

Europe: Network Bands

* HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
* GSM: 850/950/1800/1900 MHz

Asia Pacific:

* HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
* GSM: 850/950/1800/1900 MHz

T-mobile should be getting this sucker before March (at the latest) with Sprint probably to follow, then Verizon, then AT&T.

This cracks me up though...
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:lol :lol :lol
They are making sure that people know that it's NOT just Windows Mobile 6.x :lol
 
Pctx said:
From their page:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hd2/specification.html


T-mobile should be getting this sucker before March (at the latest) with Sprint probably to follow, then Verizon, then AT&T.

This cracks me up though...
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:lol :lol :lol
They are making sure that people know that it's NOT just Windows Mobile 6.x :lol

Well, this might be my fallback phone if SE drops the ball in releasing the X10 in due time. That screen is pure sex and running stock Android 2.0 on it will be a must.
 
Pctx said:
They are making sure that people know that it's NOT just Windows Mobile 6.x :lol

Uh, all handset manufacturers with skinned UIs do advertise it. HTC even advertises with HTC Sense on their android phones. The main overview page of HTC Hero doesn't even mention Android and talks about HTC Sense only, is that funny?


As for the HD2 running Android, that picture seems kind of suspect. I doubt HTC would release the exact same handset running two different OS, would be interesting if they intend to though.
 
I really, really want a HD2 that runs android and SenseUI....... better camera with a flash, come to papa!

Totakeke said:
As for the HD2 running Android, that picture seems kind of suspect. I doubt HTC would release the exact same handset running two different OS, would be interesting if they intend to though.

ACER have done the exact same thing with the liquid/neoTouch, one runs android, one runs winmo, so it's not exactly unheard of. Makes a whole lot of sense from a business stand point
 
santouras said:
ACER have done the exact same thing with the liquid/neoTouch, one runs android, one runs winmo, so it's not exactly unheard of. Makes a whole lot of sense from a business stand point

Eh, but it's Acer, which isn't exactly a major handset manufacturer. ;/ Half of their phones have been using that same design. Part of the reason HTC Hero originally had the "chin" was because HTC wanted to differentiate their WM and Android line, of course that easily could have changed by now.
 
Totakeke said:
Part of the reason HTC Hero originally had the "chin" was because HTC wanted to differentiate their WM and Android line, of course that easily could have changed by now.
they'll probably make a different shell but have the same guts as the HD2.

I'm curious as to know why they have the acer liquid rom running on it, means it isn't an official HTC thing, most likely just a good hacker.
 
Totakeke said:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/17/thegoogle-phone/

Hmm, seems kinda specific for a baseless rumor. Plus the mention of google people using the HTC Dragon/Passion, doesn't seem like google's thing to make their own phones, but you never know.

Even moreso, that they are claiming to know what the plans will be like in the 'update' related link at the bottom

Did the rumor start from that site? Because I only just saw it on an australian online news site which didn't really have that much backing it

http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/mobiles/new-hope-for-google-superphone-20091119-inv6.html
 
SimleuqiR said:
The X10 to cost an arm and a leg :lol



Good thing I've been saving for this phone.

Not really. If the 6000 SEK is in fact the price in Sweden, then I would wager that the US listing price would be 600$. Swedish prices are usually in the range of 10 times the dollar. No matter how strong the SEK is towards the dollar.
 
Don_Hakka said:
Not really. If the 6000 SEK is in fact the price in Sweden, then I would wager that the US listing price would be 600$. Swedish prices are usually in the range of 10 times the dollar. No matter how strong the SEK is towards the dollar.

That's good to know. I paid $600.00 for my original iPhone over two years ago, and that was out of contract since Apple sold it that way online.

As far as I can tell the X10 does not have internal storage memory right? Because at least an 8 gig internal capacity would have been sweet.
 
nubbe said:
You can use microSD cards to store stuff

So it has LIMITLESS STORAGE!

I know, but from what I've read accessing stuff (Mp3s, videos, photos, etc) from SD cards is not as fast as internal storage a la iPhone.
 
SimleuqiR said:
I know, but from what I've read accessing stuff (Mp3s, videos, photos, etc) from SD cards is not as fast as internal storage a la iPhone.
Just how fast access time do you think you need?
You wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the speeds of modern NAND's unless you use a benchmark tool.
 
Totakeke said:
Aha, as I suspected, that photo is a fake. The image on the screen is taken from this Acer Liquid review here.

http://tinyurl.com/ydblkg2


But apparently there are musings of WM7 being shown at the Mobius event and impressing quite a number of people though... and their comments has since been taken down.

Of course it's fake, it has a Windows button :lol
 
That settles it then, I will wait and probably buy the rumored Google Phone.
As long as it comes to verizon. :/
 
Bad_Boy said:
That settles it then, I will wait and probably buy the rumored Google Phone.
As long as it comes to verizon. :/

Given Google's recent acquisition of Gizmo5, it's rumored that the Google Phone will run using a VOiP service and not a traditional cellular network.
 
Vyse The Legend said:
Given Google's recent acquisition of Gizmo5, it's rumored that the Google Phone will run using a VOiP service and not a traditional cellular network.
Interesting. How exactly would that work, needing to be near wifi to use it?
 
SimleuqiR said:
The X10 to cost an arm and a leg :lol



Good thing I've been saving for this phone.

Droid seems better:

"Engadget said their experience with the X10 was merely mediocre, noting a horribly half-decent experience with the UI that would sometimes lag terribly and other times be lightning quick, at seemingly random intervals. It has potential but these guys say it gets bogged down and slow rather quickly and it needs a LOT of work – especially the software keyboard"
 
Bluemercury said:
Droid seems better:

"Engadget said their experience with the X10 was merely mediocre, noting a horribly half-decent experience with the UI that would sometimes lag terribly and other times be lightning quick, at seemingly random intervals. It has potential but these guys say it gets bogged down and slow rather quickly and it needs a LOT of work – especially the software keyboard"

Droid does retail hardware and software, the X10 doesn't.
 
Bluemercury said:
So? its also more expensive than the motorola droid.

But with better hardware. Those comparisons are between stock android and the Nexus UI anyway which is laggy and unreliable at the moment. Take X10, let it run stock android (which it does without much lag at all from the videos), and compare it against the Droid. X10 is still overpriced, but it does have much better hardware.
 
Totakeke said:
But with better hardware. Those comparisons are between stock android and the Nexus UI anyway which is laggy and unreliable at the moment. Take X10, let it run stock android (which it does without much lag at all from the videos), and compare it against the Droid. X10 is still overpriced, but it does have much better hardware.

Really? i thought droid had a power vr gpu with 400mhz freq.....besides the 600mhz cpu.
 
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