Annual Congressional report on videogames/ratings, on C-Span now..

blah Grand Theft Auto San Andreas is evil. blah blah Halo 2 is evil.

Blah blah Steve Kent says Burnout 3 is his favorite game of the year blah blah

Blah blah too many M rated games
 
This dude sounds like a tool. "Maybe parents should look into the games their kids play". No shit, its called parenting. Its kinda mandatory when you have a kid.
 
These tools don't seem to realize that M = R, A-O = X+.

Halo 2 and San Andreas have content just like you'd expect in an R rated movie, therefore M makes sense.
 
Lieberman's on now, talking about how video games need to be legally regulated, only sold to the appropriate ages by ESRB ratings.

Says JFK Reloaded makers need to be legally prosecuted under the grounds of threatening an elected official.

Now some tooly Rep. from Minnesota is saying dumb crap about girls and boys double standard, etc..

This is retarded, its like an anti-video game convention wank off.
 
If you can't figure out what the rating on a game your kid wants, why did you procreate in the first place?
 
Lieberman is talking about how times were simpler when he was a kid, we've lost our moral limits, afraid of stuff on tv, movies, etc., etc..

Dumbass. I'm so glad he got horribly shot down in the primaries trying to run for president.
 
Drek said:
Lieberman's on now, talking about how video games need to be legally regulated, only sold to the appropriate ages by ESRB ratings.
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No, no, no, no, NO! I hate Lieberman. How about government staying the hell out of this and talk about the need for parents to be parents instead!
 
Lieberman is talking about how times were simpler when he was a kid, we've lost our moral limits, afraid of stuff on tv, movies, etc., etc..
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Yeah cause they didn't have ELECTRICITY back then.
 
I was slightly impressed by Lieberman's closing statements. He admitted this problem extends far beyond video games and that parental action is a key factor here. Then he also mentioned something about spiritual institutions, and I screamed at the TV.
 
Drek said:
Lieberman is talking about how times were simpler when he was a kid, we've lost our moral limits, afraid of stuff on tv, movies, etc., etc..
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"...And you'll fantasize that when you were young, prices were reasonable; politicians were noble; and that children respected their elders."

When Joey was growing up, there was rampant racism in this country, you were "better dead than red," and women were delegated to making angel food cakes in the kitchen while their husbands went to work, and lawn darts were all the rage.

Same shit, different decade.
 
Matlock said:
He still doesn't, Darien, he found out he could save money by going without.
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LOL

BuddyChrist83 said:
I was slightly impressed by Lieberman's closing statements. He admitted this problem extends far beyond video games and that parental action is a key factor here. Then he also mentioned something about spiritual instiutions, and I screamed at the TV.
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Yup that sums him up.. it's not that I don't agree with his statement that games need to be sold to the correct ages, I simply disagree with his methods and his preaching.
 
Drek said:
Lieberman is talking about how times were simpler when he was a kid, we've lost our moral limits, afraid of stuff on tv, movies, etc., etc..

Dumbass. I'm so glad he got horribly shot down in the primaries trying to run for president.
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Yeah, back then they went to an asbestos-insulted, lead-based painted school-of-death with real mercury-based thermometers and they wrote with real lead-based pencils. Oh yeah, back in his day women and blacks didn't have rights. Much simpler.

And they were afraid of radio. War of the Worlds anyone?
 
BuddyChrist83 said:
I was slightly impressed by Lieberman's closing statements. He admitted this problem extends far beyond video games and that parental action is a key factor here. Then he also mentioned something about spiritual instiutions, and I screamed at the TV.
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He always does that, always talks about how parents need to be active and how the problem isn't just video games, yet video games are the only things he's the least bit concerned with trying to police. He's trying to get the same middle america that relected Bush to get behind him. He knows that no one thinks they are a bad parent, but much of middle america believes that most parents are. He also knows that many of these same people don't like the direction all media, movies, tv, and video games included, are going in. He's basically appealing to the fact that middle america are a bunch of bible thumping morons.

Don't get me wrong on the bible thumping part. I'm a very religious person myself, christian to boot, but bible thumpers need to stop trying to twist religion into their own moral weapon.


Matlock said:
He still doesn't, Darien, he found out he could save money by going without.
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I'm hoping you missed what that statement implies, otherwise thats pretty damn rude.
 
Lieberman's on now, talking about how video games need to be legally regulated, only sold to the appropriate ages by ESRB ratings.
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Is that really such a bad thing though? I mean, i'm 21 so it wouldn't effect me, but as long as they aren't suggesting ceasing to make M rated games, I don't see the problem with regulating them.
 
MoxManiac said:
Is that really such a bad thing though? I mean, i'm 21 so it wouldn't effect me, but as long as they aren't suggesting ceasing to make M rated games, I don't see the problem with regulating them.
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Read the rest of the posts and/or check on his history... a portion of his message is something we agree with... however his ranting and OTHER extreme statements are not.
 
Drek said:
Says JFK Reloaded makers need to be legally prosecuted under the grounds of threatening an elected official.
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You know, I'm not an expert on American history or anything, but I kinda think that JFK is already dead?

...I guess a prosecution like that puts a damper on my upcoming cell phone game "George Washington Must Die"
 
So then what was the implication of the statement then Matlock? Lieberman is known to be thrifty, or..?? Seems like an indefensible position, girlfriend or not. You could date as many black chicks as you like and still get called out for using the N-word.
 
Sho Nuff said:
You know, I'm not an expert on American history or anything, but I kinda think that JFK is already dead?

...I guess a prosecution like that puts a damper on my upcoming cell phone game "George Washington Must Die"
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The president can't be allowed to die in videogames. Only WW2 GI's..
 
Ned Flanders said:
So then what was the implication of the statement then Matlock? Lieberman is known to be thrifty, or..?? Seems like an indefensible position, girlfriend or not. You could date as many black chicks as you like and still get called out for using the N-word.
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Er, it's not really comparable. Making a fried chicken joke would be about approximately the same. Mind you, it's still a bit offensive, but I'm not malicious nor hateful in my ways. I realize that not all Jewish people are thrifty (god knows Gina wasn't), but then again, without any real context it can be taken as "OMG I HATE THE JEWS"...somehow. I don't know.


Sidenote: Gina called me cheap.
 
MoxManiac said:
Is that really such a bad thing though? I mean, i'm 21 so it wouldn't effect me, but as long as they aren't suggesting ceasing to make M rated games, I don't see the problem with regulating them.
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Good luck enforcing it.
 
Matlock said:
Er, it's not really comparable. Making a fried chicken joke would be about approximately the same. Mind you, it's still a bit offensive, but I'm not malicious nor hateful in my ways. I realize that not all Jewish people are thrifty (god knows Gina wasn't), but then again, without any real context it can be taken as "OMG I HATE THE JEWS"...somehow. I don't know.


Sidenote: Gina called me cheap.
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Bigotry = slippery slope. If you can justify the chides, you can justify the genocides, IMO. I don't dabble in that shit. The comparison was not meant to be apples for apples, it simply meant that just because you've been associated with people of the group you're defiling, doesn't make it an excusable endeavor.
 
:lol

You're taking this way too seriously, man. But you're right, I'm an anti-semite! I'll drop my membership from Kent's Jewish Association! I'll tell Gina that I don't like her anymore because she's a dirty jew! I'll start shaving my head* and parading around in a black trenchcoat!

Jeez, lighten up.


*of which I already do, because I like the feel of air on my scalp
 
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MoxManiac said:
Is that really such a bad thing though? I mean, i'm 21 so it wouldn't effect me, but as long as they aren't suggesting ceasing to make M rated games, I don't see the problem with regulating them.
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I would be concerned that legal regulation would have a more chilling effect on content than self-regulation. Unless he simply means enforcement of the ratings system when he speaks of legal regulation.
 
Ned Flanders said:
Bigotry = slippery slope. If you can justify the chides, you can justify the genocides, IMO.
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Woah, woah, woah, stop right there. There should be a Godwin-by-Proxy rule.
 
Is that really such a bad thing though? I mean, i'm 21 so it wouldn't effect me, but as long as they aren't suggesting ceasing to make M rated games, I don't see the problem with regulating them.
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See, I agree with that aspect, not with the fact that Lieberman wants to start a chain reaction ultimately leading to games being made as generic and vanilla as possible.
 
I would be concerned that legal regulation would have a more chilling effect on content than self-regulation. Unless he simply means enforcement of the ratings system when he speaks of legal regulation.
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If thats all that would happen please bring it on. We need the industry to take a more responsible role towards content. Not in exposing kids to it mind you, but in using violence and sex to sell mediocrity. Thats the biggest problem in video games now, too many dev.s know that a violent game laced with sexual inuendo that sucks tend to sell better than the average good game with no such content.

I blame that fact on retarded casual gamers being the dominant "gamer" now however.
 
I'm not accusing anyone of being an anti-semite. I'm just saying that seemingly non-threatening forms of bigotry only serve to perpetuate the stereotype culture. Out of stereotypical culture comes racism, discrimination, and yes, at extremes, even genocide.

You may think I'm overreacting, but its a matter of principle for me not to let even the minor quips go unchastised. Just trying to do my part to fight the perpetuation of ignorance. Carry on.
 
Drek said:
If thats all that would happen please bring it on. We need the industry to take a more responsible role towards content. Not in exposing kids to it mind you, but in using violence and sex to sell mediocrity. Thats the biggest problem in video games now, too many dev.s know that a violent game laced with sexual inuendo that sucks tend to sell better than the average good game with no such content.

I blame that fact on retarded casual gamers being the dominant "gamer" now however.
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Welcome to the entire fucking entertainment industry. If you think this is somehow exclusive to games, you need to seriously open your eyes to how the whole industry works.
 
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