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Any vegans or vegetarians out there?
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After coming across a site last night that showed, step by step, how a pig is slaughtered... for a moment there, I sure felt like becoming a vegetarian. :x Not only did the slaughtering bother me, but the fact that the pig, who trusted the farmers his whole life, all of the sudden realizes that he is gonna die. That's just mean. 
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I became a vegetarian for a good... seven or eight months. Partly because I was tired of the fact I was eating animals, and partly because this girl I liked was a vegetarian, so I thought it was an easy in. Well, that actually did work to my benefit, but the diet did not. After a while I just couldn't stand the craving for beef, so I gave in. The girl had started going out with this other dude, so I said fuck it, and went back to eating whatever.
Not vegan. A tad bit more vegetarian than I used to be.
I don't eat much red meat anymore unless its in a sauce or ravioli or something. HAven't had a steak/burger/etc. in months. I'd say what meat I do eat the most is either chicken or sliced ham (for sandwiches). I eat Krishna food almost every weekday (they serve on campus during lunchtime) and a good portion of the rest of my diet consists of rice, beans, fruit and yogurt.
This is in comparison to nothing but fast food, which was my diet less than a year ago. I've dropped about 30 pounds since then, and I don't exercise much.
So, its not completely vegetarian, but its moreso than it used to be. I'm not a big fan of most raw veggies, but if they're cooked right (Keishna food) I can eat em just fine.
I don't eat much red meat anymore unless its in a sauce or ravioli or something. HAven't had a steak/burger/etc. in months. I'd say what meat I do eat the most is either chicken or sliced ham (for sandwiches). I eat Krishna food almost every weekday (they serve on campus during lunchtime) and a good portion of the rest of my diet consists of rice, beans, fruit and yogurt.
This is in comparison to nothing but fast food, which was my diet less than a year ago. I've dropped about 30 pounds since then, and I don't exercise much.
So, its not completely vegetarian, but its moreso than it used to be. I'm not a big fan of most raw veggies, but if they're cooked right (Keishna food) I can eat em just fine.
I'm not eating any dairy, eggs, or meat. Some vegans don't eat refined sugar, perhaps i will eventually integrate that into my diet.Chipopo said:
As it stands now, my diet consists largely of starch, soy, fruits, and vegetables. So I'm a vegan, ultimately. It's not easy, that's for sure. But I'm doing fine -- and living and learning what odd products have eggs in them. For example, I ate a salad with French dressing once, apparently it has mayo in it (which has eggs in it).
Yeah, I'm sure it is. In a way, I envy you. But in a way, I've at least tried meat (and still love it). It's just a sacrifice and I think there's something that's valuable about any sacrifice.Raoul Duke said:
"Well, if you like hamburgers give them a try sometime. Me, I can't usually eat them because cause my girlfriend's a vegetarian. Which more or less makes me a vegetarian, but I sure love the taste of a good burger."
RevenantKioku
PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
Raoul Duke said:
That's exactly what broke me away from my vegetarian stint. I was dating a vegan at the time, and that I could never do.
I will say that it opened me up to a lot of different kinds of food I would never had eaten before. But the diet also gave me heartburn.
It's impossible to be 100% vegetarian/vegan because you will always end up consuming some form of erstwhile animal life. Furthermore, being vegetarian/vegan is not necessarily any less 'cruel' to animals than other diets and far more insects and other invertebrates inevitably perish as a result of agriculture, in whatever form.
Question:
If you are vegetarian/vegan would you consider eating an amputated cow leg? The cow would receive an artificial limb to replace the lost leg and would live a long happy life.
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Question:
If you are vegetarian/vegan would you consider eating an amputated cow leg? The cow would receive an artificial limb to replace the lost leg and would live a long happy life.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I'll walk into my college's dining hall and see everyone else eating meat and I'll be eating a salad filled with cabbage and broccoli. Sometimes you just want more, but that's where the beauty of the sacrifice comes into play.pjberri said:
(for the record, think about how this thread in the War Room Community forum -- eek. It's nice to see more CC people here, in a bigger forum we're all just pecks on a huge canvas.)
To be honest, I don't feel the need to answer your questions or argue about it. If you want to find flaws in the way I eat and my personal convictions, you have too much time on your hand. This is such a personal decision. Your criticism is out-of-line ultimately.Jeffahn said:
i' ve been vegetarian for around six years. it's hard to do while living on campus, but really easy once you start cooking for yourself. though i suppose it's really hard to eat anything while living on campus in general. as long as you are honest in why you want to stop consuming meat you'll be fine.
Fixed2BeBroken
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mmm oh yea....you know you want it....look at those nice peices of savory yummy delicious steak....yes you know you want it...you know you crave it...your body craves it...for you are truly a carnivore at heart.....
oh yea....no fast food burger beats a whopper, and that includes white castle...
you know you need this peice of 500-600 calorie sandwich. you want it..you NEED IT!
when you cant get steak....chicken is the only best alternative for dinner...and hey, beer is good too! plus you can listen to ludicris while you eat!
Really? One of the reasons I started was because my campus was offered so many options for vegans. That really surprises me. We have a vegan line and all sorts of other stuff. It's really easy at campus, but when food is "provided" at a meeting or something, often times you need to pack or just drink water.swoon said:
missAran said:
I don't want you think I was being personal and my post was intended for the thread as a whole. I'm actually one of those people who struggles to reconcile my love for animals and my love for meat. I find the cow question an interesting one to ask people because most automatically associate meat consumption with animal suffering, and removing the suffering from the equation makes for some interesting responses.
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Damn I could do with some lambchops right now.
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I've seriously considered doing it last year, but I couldn't handle not being able to eat sushi / sashimi. I personally wouldn't miss out on pork, beef, poultry much, but it's the sushi that would hold me back.
I did it for a few months and was able to adjust. I mainly did for health reasons personally.
I did it for a few months and was able to adjust. I mainly did for health reasons personally.
Jonnyboy117
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I went vegetarian for Lent last year, and I'm doing it again this year. Last year I was hoping to lose some weight in the process, but since I supplanted cravings by eating a giant grilled cheese almost every day, my weight was even. This year I'm eating a greater variety and trying some new things (like mushrooms). The greatest benefit has been learning to eat things that I would have never tried otherwise. It's so great to start eating broccoli and onions and then, once you go back to eating meat, being able to mix in those veggies with meat dishes and really enjoy it all.
My strategy is to keep around plenty of beans and nuts for my protein health, and otherwise eat whatever sounds good and falls within the rules. My only vice this year has been Ceaser dressing, which contains anchovies, but I think that's too nit-picky to worry about. My favorite veggie dish is pasta with tons of toppings (oil, balsamic, pesto, tomato sauce, basil, sun dried tomatoes, etc.), which I eat all the time without meat anyway, a practice I picked up in Russia, where I didn't trust most kinds of meat and pasta was one of the few basic foods I could make in my tiny kitchen.
My strategy is to keep around plenty of beans and nuts for my protein health, and otherwise eat whatever sounds good and falls within the rules. My only vice this year has been Ceaser dressing, which contains anchovies, but I think that's too nit-picky to worry about. My favorite veggie dish is pasta with tons of toppings (oil, balsamic, pesto, tomato sauce, basil, sun dried tomatoes, etc.), which I eat all the time without meat anyway, a practice I picked up in Russia, where I didn't trust most kinds of meat and pasta was one of the few basic foods I could make in my tiny kitchen.
Jonnyboy117
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sonarrat said:
Try a salad with plenty of cheese and nuts (like almonds). That can be quite filling. It's the only way I can make a meal out of salad.
I've been for a while. And growing up I ate nothing but meat and potatoes. Then around 14-15 the thought of what hotdogs were so grossed me out I quit eating them (And I remember then that that was a hypocritcal thought, since I had no problems with other animal products. But I figured I could live with the hypocrisy. I also remember thinking then that it was the beginning of the end and eventually I wouldn't).
As for meat now. Walking down the meat aisle in the grocery store makes me nauseous. I no longer associate that smell with steak and such... it's just rotting mammal corpses. Whenever I watch War biographies and soldiers talk about the stench of rotting corpses, I can emphathize a little now. Because I know the smell of rotting corpses when nothing positive is associated with them.
If you want a burger, try Boca burgers. As long as you put fixings on them they're actually pretty decent. But I don't even like them anymore. Boca reminds me of real hamburgers, which reminds me of the stench in grocery stores.
That said, your homepage is scary MissAran. So please don't preach to the carnivores and try to convert.
As for meat now. Walking down the meat aisle in the grocery store makes me nauseous. I no longer associate that smell with steak and such... it's just rotting mammal corpses. Whenever I watch War biographies and soldiers talk about the stench of rotting corpses, I can emphathize a little now. Because I know the smell of rotting corpses when nothing positive is associated with them.
If you want a burger, try Boca burgers. As long as you put fixings on them they're actually pretty decent. But I don't even like them anymore. Boca reminds me of real hamburgers, which reminds me of the stench in grocery stores.
That said, your homepage is scary MissAran. So please don't preach to the carnivores and try to convert.
cloudwalking
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I ate totally vegan for a solid 3 months in the summer... but I found that it was just too hard to find variety unless I cooked up a different meal each time I wanted to eat, and too expensive. Also I dropped a LOT of weight which I haven't gained back.
My diet is really a mix now. I tried different things until I came up with something that made me feel healthiest and happiest. I still don't drink milk or eat eggs, but if there are trace amounts in whatever I'm eating, it doesn't bother me... I just can't stomach them straight up. I'll consume other dairy products like cheese and yogurt on rare occasions. Given the choice between dairy and an alternative in a meal, I'll always choose the alternative. I don't eat any meat save for a bit of seafood here and there (my dad grew up on the east coast so I was raised with that stuff, it's in my blood) but I very rarely get the chance to eat seafood anyway. All other animal products in food I pretty much try to stay clear of... anything with animal oils, gelatin, etc. in it is a no-go.
I think it's best to go at it in stages, and try to tailor your diet to your liking. Don't eliminate something you totally can't live without, or you will be miserable not eating. And don't make your diet a hassle. One of the reasons I stopped eating totally vegan is because I was constantly scrambling all over the place looking for something to eat. That's not how you should have to feel.
My diet is really a mix now. I tried different things until I came up with something that made me feel healthiest and happiest. I still don't drink milk or eat eggs, but if there are trace amounts in whatever I'm eating, it doesn't bother me... I just can't stomach them straight up. I'll consume other dairy products like cheese and yogurt on rare occasions. Given the choice between dairy and an alternative in a meal, I'll always choose the alternative. I don't eat any meat save for a bit of seafood here and there (my dad grew up on the east coast so I was raised with that stuff, it's in my blood) but I very rarely get the chance to eat seafood anyway. All other animal products in food I pretty much try to stay clear of... anything with animal oils, gelatin, etc. in it is a no-go.
I think it's best to go at it in stages, and try to tailor your diet to your liking. Don't eliminate something you totally can't live without, or you will be miserable not eating. And don't make your diet a hassle. One of the reasons I stopped eating totally vegan is because I was constantly scrambling all over the place looking for something to eat. That's not how you should have to feel.
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Where's goodcow in all this? He's a pretty big vegetarian guy.
Vinzer Deling
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What exactly is the reason to go all veg diet?
cloudwalking
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Sokar said:
There's so many reasons people have... moral reasons, health-related reasons, environmental reasons, religious reasons, some people do it for weight loss... and many people have a combination of reasons. It's all about lifestyle and personal choices.
For me, it was a combination of health and moral reasons. But the biggest reason I've chosen to eat the way I do is because I look and feel a lot healthier than when I was consuming a lot of animal products.
madara said:
I can't speak for others, but I get over 100grams of protein a day... which is well over the RDA of 60.
WTF about the regular comment. Not that I really wanna go down this road, but fiber is what makes a person regular. If you're a vegan and aren't getting a wad of fiber, you're eating a really crap diet. And protein does nothing for this. Zero.
cloudwalking
300chf ain't shit to me
I get at least 25g of my daily protein from soy... which is some of the healthiest protein you can consume. Studies show soy protein can lower cholesterol and reduce the risk of heart disease. Much different from animal proteins!
i dont eat too much meat anyway, specially beef. i like to have a balanced diet, i eat lots of vegetables. however i love lamb and chicken though. and i love fish.
as far as being vegan, i dont think so, seems very alien to me. though im trying to date a vegan chick, but she has no probs with dating non-vegan/vegetarian men so i dont think i'll have to worry about that. she doesnt even drink certain brands of beer!!
as far as being vegan, i dont think so, seems very alien to me. though im trying to date a vegan chick, but she has no probs with dating non-vegan/vegetarian men so i dont think i'll have to worry about that. she doesnt even drink certain brands of beer!!
Boy, I've never heard that one before...slayn said:Stop eating those poor helpless plants! They're alive just like you are!
Please, think of the plants
My problem largely comes from factory farming and international farming. Both of them are very corrupt. They are unsanitory, there is a lot of torture involved, and in a way, contribute to poverty. So, in theory, if I raised my own cow and humanely killed it -- I could potentially eat it. However, this won't happen and if it does happen, there will access to food that isn't prepared that way everywhere.Jeffahn said:
For the same reasons that alcoholics should avoid occasional drinks, vegans should avoid beef even if it's prepared humanely.
I eat vegan salads without cheese, egg, ranch dressing, French dressing, and all those other "dense dressings" -- Italian or vinegar/oil for me. A vegan soup, dish, in addition to a salad always fills me up.Jonnyboy117 said:
I typically wait until I get out and then eat something decent.swoon said:
Well, I eaten "vegan" sushi. In other words, seaweed, rice, vegetables, and tofu. I like it a lot and there's isn't a HUGE sacrifice there. Seaweed, since it's high in calcium, is awesome for vegans.jenov4 said:
Vinzer Deling
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So who's right about human diet? Nature or studies?
Manabanana
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I'm a pesco vegetarian, so I still indulge myself with the fishies from time to time. Can't really cook Japanese food without at least consuming some dashi from time to time I've never really been tempted to have a burger or anything as I'm repulsed by the flavor of beef and have a tough time digesting it. Veggie patties taste better, anyway. And tempé is awesome. Such great texture. Dang, I'm craving some edamame now. Lunch!
I've never really been tempted to have a burger or anything as I'm repulsed by the flavor of beef and have a tough time digesting it. Veggie patties taste better, anyway. And tempé is awesome. Such great texture. Dang, I'm craving some edamame now. Lunch!videogamer
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missAran said:
Now, have you tried vegan sashimi?
Manabanana: how do you suggest one eat tempe? I've tried frying and making tacos.
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Hammy said:
Haha, that's a pretty unique way to eat it! I'll usually pan fry some tofu in taco seasoning for tacos. I most often use tempe in stir fries. Cook some noodles, stick 'em in a pan on high heat, get the tempe and veggies simmering, crack some eggs over top (I love eggs), and some sauce. Mixing soy sauce, chili oil, and peanut butter makes a really good peanut sauce that coats everything really well. You could also buy some pre-made plum sauce or something.
cloudwalking
300chf ain't shit to me
Manabanana said:
That sounds delicious! :9
Yeah, it's a pain sometimes. "Is there butter in this?" "Is there eggs in this?" "Is this fried in animal lard?" "Well, what DO you have to eat?"jett said:I've thought once or twice about being a semi vegetarian, but eh, I can't be arsed, too much hassle.
I've been a vegetarian for about 15 years. I went strictly vegan nearly 10 years ago. There certainly is an adjustment period while learning which products, groceries, and restaurants are appropriate to a vegan diet, but once you're past that stage it isn't too bad at all. There are a wide variety of periodicals and internet resources that make that transitional period much easier to manage as well.
My hometown of Gainesville, Florida makes it rather easy to maintain this diet as it is a college town with plenty of like-minded folks and restaurants/stores that stock plenty of vegan friendly fare. Just today I had a delicious seitan sandwich for lunch at the local deli with a side of vegan black beans and rice.
My decision to maintain this diet was mine alone when I was 14, but very much supported by my non-vegetarian parents. I don't have any problem at all with people who choose a different lifestyle/diet, but I certainly feel more comfortable with myself living as I do.
My hometown of Gainesville, Florida makes it rather easy to maintain this diet as it is a college town with plenty of like-minded folks and restaurants/stores that stock plenty of vegan friendly fare. Just today I had a delicious seitan sandwich for lunch at the local deli with a side of vegan black beans and rice.
My decision to maintain this diet was mine alone when I was 14, but very much supported by my non-vegetarian parents. I don't have any problem at all with people who choose a different lifestyle/diet, but I certainly feel more comfortable with myself living as I do.
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Bleh. Don't want to offend anyone...
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Waychel said:
I got over 50 grams of protein in the edamame I had for lunch, which is just under the daily recommended amount.
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