Dr_Cogent said:You can use any wireless bridge you want.
Currently, I have 2 WAPs. One upstairs in my computer room and one in the basement with the 360. The one in the basement is connected to a hub, and the 360 is connected to that. You aren't restricted to using the MS hardware.
DenogginizerOS said:D-Link Gamefuel Router and Wireless Gaming Adapter with Gamefuel.
TigerKnee said:Can you provide me with a link of one that you prefer?
TigerKnee said:So you're telling me to buy two things? Won't that be just as much as getting an MS wireless adapter?
Dr_Cogent said:I am assuming you already have a wireless router or WAP somewhere. Basically, it doesn't matter which bridge you get, as long as its compatible with your existing router/wap. If your WAP is 802.11g, get an 802.11g bridge.
How about you give me a little more information on what your network config looks like. What WAP/router do you currently own?
Please give me model numbers.
TigerKnee said:I have a Linksys WRT54G 4-port Wireless Router.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16833124010
Dr_Cogent said:I would just go with this product then.
The thing is, you could probably get away with any standard 54 mbit 802.11g wireless bridge. Remember, you will have to configure it over a wired port first though.
Tigerriot said:I just recently went wireless with my new basement setup. So far so good. No problems or drops.
Then again, my wireless router is sitting about 10 feet away from the 360. :lol
Dr_Cogent said:Don't forget wireless users! Secure your network! Don't leave it wide open for your neighbors or passers by to hop on and steal your bandwidth!!!
Dr_Cogent said:So why go wireless? You plan to move the 360?
TigerKnee said:That's probably what I'll get then.
Thanks for your help bud.
Tigerriot said:I am such a cord freak that I just didn't want to have a cord visible from my router to my 360. I literally do everything I can to avoid cords from being seen. I'm a bit of a perfectionist like that. :/
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The router is located in the far right in this picture. Underneath the cabinet you see in the corner.
Dr_Cogent said:My cousins have a problem with their wireless network everytime the phone rings though, it cuts them off completely. :lol
Dr_Cogent said:No problemo. Glad to be of service.
Totally cool. I can understand that.
I also would like to point out, be careful what other wireless products you buy with a wireless network. For instance, I would suggest you buy a cordless phone on a different frequency than 2.4 GHz because they have been known to interfere with wireless networks (since they are on the same frequency). Apparently this isn't always the case though, because the wireless controllers for the 360 are indeed 2.4 GHz.
My cousins have a problem with their wireless network everytime the phone rings though, it cuts them off completely. :lol
StoOgE said:The shame is I actually pulled a Cat 6 cord through my wall for my 360.. but it wound up taking me nearly an entire day to do... and I wasnt even changing floors, so I dont think I'll be doing that again.
Tigerriot said:Wow. The things people will go through to avoid going wireless. :lol
StoOgE said:To be fair I didnt know it would take an entire day, my uncle described it as an easy process.. plus, I live in a PUD, so there are alot of townhomes all very near to each other, so Ive allways been worried about interference.
Dr_Cogent said:I also would like to point out, be careful what other wireless products you buy with a wireless network. For instance, I would suggest you buy a cordless phone on a different frequency than 2.4 GHz because they have been known to interfere with wireless networks (since they are on the same frequency). Apparently this isn't always the case though, because the wireless controllers for the 360 are indeed 2.4 GHz.
My cousins have a problem with their wireless network everytime the phone rings though, it cuts them off completely. :lol
Tigerriot said:Forgive my ignorrance. What is a PUD? I live in a townhouse too.![]()
jedimike said:2.4Ghz is used for a ton of wireless crap... on a phone system, you should have the ability to change the channel it uses. 2.4Ghz really refers to a band of signals. When you change a channel, it changes the frequency by a little bit. IIRC, MS used the upper side of the band for the controllers and then made a proprietary protocol so interference is minimal. That's why the range is shorter (30') compared to other wireless devices, but you have better stability. Wireless routers, microwaves, and phone systems are all competing for the middle of that band. The middle provides the best attenuation for antennas and 2.4Ghz is the resonant frequency of water... which is how a microwave cooks food.
So basically... change the channel on the phone and don't put a microwave in the path between your 360 and your router.
jedimike said:2.4Ghz is used for a ton of wireless crap... on a phone system, you should have the ability to change the channel it uses. 2.4Ghz really refers to a band of signals. When you change a channel, it changes the frequency by a little bit. IIRC, MS used the upper side of the band for the controllers and then made a proprietary protocol so interference is minimal. That's why the range is shorter (30') compared to other wireless devices, but you have better stability. Wireless routers, microwaves, and phone systems are all competing for the middle of that band. The middle provides the best attenuation for antennas and 2.4Ghz is the resonant frequency of water... which is how a microwave cooks food.
Tell your cousin to change the channel on the phone and don't put a microwave in the path between your 360 and your router.
Dr_Cogent said:Already knew all that jedimike.
I've already told them to do such a thing. It's much easier to just not even bother and try to buy products that work on a completely different frequency since it's a lot easier to deal with.
jedimike said:I agree... I actually had to use my old 900Mhz phone because my 2.4Ghz phone is a piece of shit and only had 3 channels, none of which was completely interference free. I wasn't trying to be condensending... I know you know what your talking about. I was just trying to fill in some blanks for others reading.
Dr_Cogent said:Don't forget wireless users! Secure your network! Don't leave it wide open for your neighbors or passers by to hop on and steal your bandwidth!!!
Well, I'm not sure exactly the steps with your particular router/setup. But for me I would enable WAP, MAC filter to only allow your PC and XBOX hardware on the router, and then I would not brodcast the SSID.BojTrek said:How do I set it up to only allow internet access from the PC and X-Box 360?
Thanks!
Davew49 said:Well, I'm not sure exactly the steps with your particular router/setup. But for me I would enable WAP, MAC filter to only allow your PC and XBOX hardware on the router, and then I would not brodcast the SSID.
I know in my apartment building at times I can see about 4 maybe 5 routers in range that are still brodcasting and unsecure.
Remember these setups are "never" 100% secure but you should be able to keep 100% of the people that aren't intersted in breaking in, from taking your bandwidth.
Sorry that wasn't much help.
DAVEW49
BojTrek said:I went wireless when I bought the X-Box 360... I also hated a wire going 8 feet to the old router. Neat freak!
I bought the Microsoft X-Box 360 adapter because I also didn't want an additional power cord.
I bought the Linksys WRT54GS router... my PC is hard wired to it and the X-Box 360 is the olny thing using the wireless signal...
How do I set it up to only allow internet access from the PC and X-Box 360?
Thanks!
BojTrek said:No... both are working fine at the same time... I just do not want neighbors to have access to my band-width...
I really doubt anyone could... but you never know...
Can you tell the router, only accept requests from X-Box 360 and my PC and reject all others unless I say yes?
siamesedreamer said:Just out of curiosity, how many things can that 4-port wireless router from Linksys support?
I have my CPU hardwired to it, but its conceivable that I could be running four things wirelessly at the same time (360, laptop, DS, Tivo). So, that's 5 things running off that one router.
i got the adapter for 8000Y in japan.. works greatTigerKnee said:So the only way for me to get wireless is through the $99 adapter? I can't get any other kind?
RIP OFF!
I have no choice ;_;
How is the connection? Any drops?
Thanks in advanced!
Dr_Cogent said:I don't know what the physical limitation of wireless devices is, but the more you add to it, the slower it will run for all involved.
Also, the moment you introduce a 802.11b device to a 802.11g network, everything is pulled down to 11mbits. There may be certain hardware that gets around this limitation, but I can't remember what it is at the moment if it exists.
siamesedreamer said:OK, so they all share bandwidth in the same way bandwidth is shared by high speed cable internet users.
So, are you saying that the DS uses 802.11b? I know everything else in my network is 802.11g.
Dr_Cogent said:Oh, I have no idea what the DS uses. But if it is 802.11b, once it's logged on to the network - it drags the whole network down to its level.
I was just stating a general fact for 802.11g wireless networks is all.
siamesedreamer said:Well, I guess my router is B and G then......
Spencerr said:Doesn't this defeat the purpose of mixed mode b/g or are you just making stuff up?
PS: DS is 802.11b