What. For that price difference I could go on vacation in some 5* hotels for a month or two ;-;
Anyone ever fly FIRST CLASS...what are the peasants missing?
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What. For that price difference I could go on vacation in some 5* hotels for a month or two ;-;
thesoapster
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I did once. It's not as expensive if you have the chance to upgrade at check-in (meaning they did not sell all their first class tickets in advance). Flying back to IAD from SEA, I think I paid a little over a hundred to upgrade from economy/coach to first class on Virgin. Great seats, plus good food and alcohol options.
I imagine it's like in Iron Man where the stripper poles come up halfway through the flight
I got randomly upgraded once on a flight from London to Sydney.
I had a bed. I pressed a button and an air hostess would show up in 30 seconds who would get me pretty much anything I wanted. I could charge my laptop. I departed and boarded the plane first. It was honestly pretty fucking awesome.
...but I'd never pay for that myself. As a student I couldn't if I wanted to at the moment, but I can't imagine doing it even once I'm in a position to. At the end of the day it's just some unnecessary luxuries. Give me my Laptop/3DS and I'm happy regardless of what class I'm sitting in.
I had a bed. I pressed a button and an air hostess would show up in 30 seconds who would get me pretty much anything I wanted. I could charge my laptop. I departed and boarded the plane first. It was honestly pretty fucking awesome.
...but I'd never pay for that myself. As a student I couldn't if I wanted to at the moment, but I can't imagine doing it even once I'm in a position to. At the end of the day it's just some unnecessary luxuries. Give me my Laptop/3DS and I'm happy regardless of what class I'm sitting in.
NekoFever
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Do you guys usually get charged extra for movies, then? I've flown a lot and I don't think I've ever paid for entertainment. I've never taken an internal flight in the US, though.
All you'd see if you had a jet with a transparent floor is your baggage in the hold below you.
All you'd see if you had a jet with a transparent floor is your baggage in the hold below you.
My flight attendant is not hot for sure. But that's us domestic.
djplaeskool
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Flew to Vegas once First Class. Got bumped up on a different flight due to giving my seat up on an earlier overbooked flight.
The spaciousness was godly. Standard plugs in the seats to keep my PSP (at the time) charged.
Then our steward made it rain kettle chips and individually wrapped muffins.
Was reeeeal swank. I look forward to my next opportunity.
The spaciousness was godly. Standard plugs in the seats to keep my PSP (at the time) charged.
Then our steward made it rain kettle chips and individually wrapped muffins.
Was reeeeal swank. I look forward to my next opportunity.
Most us domestic don't have in flight entertainment. Air canada does but it's not great in terms if screen quality.
franknbeans
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Yep, I upgraded to first class for like $30 on a United 737. I was not impressed. The plane was old and the seats felt like fake leather. The service was the same as coach. Other than getting on and off first, and having a curtain for privacy, it didn't feel any different from coach.
My dream is to take a long haul flight first class on a 747, 777, 787, or A380
It varies wildly airline to airline, a lot like how '5 star' hotels are kinda meaningless (which is why some places like to call themselves 5+/6/7 star etc).
But one consistent thing I've noticed is the calm. You don't feel like you're locked in a coup with people moving all around you. Regardless of the seat width, upholstery material or extra leg room, just limiting all that activity happening around you makes it infinitely easier to sleep or get work done - but most importantly when you step off you don't feel like you've been through as long a flight compared to Economy, and ultimately, that's why businesses pay for it. You step off fresher, less agitated, less jetlagged and are able to snap back into work mode without that lingering lethargic feeling.
But one consistent thing I've noticed is the calm. You don't feel like you're locked in a coup with people moving all around you. Regardless of the seat width, upholstery material or extra leg room, just limiting all that activity happening around you makes it infinitely easier to sleep or get work done - but most importantly when you step off you don't feel like you've been through as long a flight compared to Economy, and ultimately, that's why businesses pay for it. You step off fresher, less agitated, less jetlagged and are able to snap back into work mode without that lingering lethargic feeling.
Spunky Monkey
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Flew first class with Virgin to Australia and it was wonderful, if slightly wasted on me. First off is the lounge in Heathrow, amazing. You get treated like a super star and then where ever you decide to sit (games area, tv area, booth, random seats etc) a waitress will come up to you within moments and ask you what you'd like to drink or eat. All for free. The food was lovely and whilst im not a big drinker i know many people would enjoy it.
Being allowed first on the plane is nice and because its first class there very little people getting in your way or trying to get past. Again you're offered free drink and you can order as much as you want and they give you menus with food on for you to choose what you fancy once in the air. You can hassle the staff as much as you want for what ever you want, wether is a burger or drinks, all free and always available. You get a proper knife and fork, along with glass tumblrs, salt and pepper pots, napkins and proper plates. Sadly the food is still on the microwaved side but its much fancier than the normal slop you get given.
As this is a long distance flight you get a bed, which is amazing, you can turn it into a bed when ever you want or let the staff do it for you, meant a 24 hour flight was pure joy of laying there watching films and sleeping. Also you get more toilets per people which is a big result.
You get let off the plane first which helps a lot with getting through customs and even at customs you get to go into special super fast lines for security and baggage claim. It doesn't save hours but its nice being able to go through quickly.
As this was a 24 hour flight there was a stop off in china, again you get your own personal lounge with free papers, magazines, food and drink and super courteous staff. Really it was amazing and if i was a millionaire i'd do it for every flight, but as im not as a super long haul flight it was worth it, but only because i got a discounted seat that put it at just a little over premium economy. In all it cost me about £3k to fly from london to sydney and back again first class, which is damn cheap on virgin.
I did see first class on domestic flights in Australia and they really didn't seem worth it on those types of flights and planes.
Being allowed first on the plane is nice and because its first class there very little people getting in your way or trying to get past. Again you're offered free drink and you can order as much as you want and they give you menus with food on for you to choose what you fancy once in the air. You can hassle the staff as much as you want for what ever you want, wether is a burger or drinks, all free and always available. You get a proper knife and fork, along with glass tumblrs, salt and pepper pots, napkins and proper plates. Sadly the food is still on the microwaved side but its much fancier than the normal slop you get given.
As this is a long distance flight you get a bed, which is amazing, you can turn it into a bed when ever you want or let the staff do it for you, meant a 24 hour flight was pure joy of laying there watching films and sleeping. Also you get more toilets per people which is a big result.
You get let off the plane first which helps a lot with getting through customs and even at customs you get to go into special super fast lines for security and baggage claim. It doesn't save hours but its nice being able to go through quickly.
As this was a 24 hour flight there was a stop off in china, again you get your own personal lounge with free papers, magazines, food and drink and super courteous staff. Really it was amazing and if i was a millionaire i'd do it for every flight, but as im not as a super long haul flight it was worth it, but only because i got a discounted seat that put it at just a little over premium economy. In all it cost me about £3k to fly from london to sydney and back again first class, which is damn cheap on virgin.
I did see first class on domestic flights in Australia and they really didn't seem worth it on those types of flights and planes.
Yes, twice.
JFK -> Tokyo. The flight took 13 hours and it was great. I got a Samsung Galaxy Tab to watch movies/tv series on it and my seat could be inclined horizontally to make a bed. I only flew in Business Class before and this was a whole new level. Everyone gets his own small compartment.
Then back from Tokyo to Los Angelees. This one took a bit less (10 - 11 hours) but it was much like my flight there.
JFK -> Tokyo. The flight took 13 hours and it was great. I got a Samsung Galaxy Tab to watch movies/tv series on it and my seat could be inclined horizontally to make a bed. I only flew in Business Class before and this was a whole new level. Everyone gets his own small compartment.
Then back from Tokyo to Los Angelees. This one took a bit less (10 - 11 hours) but it was much like my flight there.
industrian
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I checked in to my Japan Airlines flight from Gimpo to Haneda extremely late, was told by the girl at the desk that there were no more seats available in economy, and thus got a free upgrade to First Class.
It had really good service, high quality meal, and great wine on demand.
I was so out of place though, it was like a godamn comedy movie. 6'5" long-haired dude in a Rammstein t-shirt hanging around these Asian businessmen wearing suits that cost more than I earn in a year. I ended up getting pretty drunk with the dude sitting next to me though. Good times.
It had really good service, high quality meal, and great wine on demand.
I was so out of place though, it was like a godamn comedy movie. 6'5" long-haired dude in a Rammstein t-shirt hanging around these Asian businessmen wearing suits that cost more than I earn in a year. I ended up getting pretty drunk with the dude sitting next to me though. Good times.
Pro-tip: At the gate, if you hold an econo or biz class seat, go see the gate agent. Ask if there are any seats open in the class above your ticket. If yes, they'll sell it at around a 75% discount to fill the seat. This works especially well during international travel.
Source: This "trick" worked back in May on my return leg from HKG to YVR. Bought a roundtrip econo seat on sale for 1k, and upgraded to business class for $300 at the gate. I've also used it from JFK to RAK.
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Pro-tip: If your plane has an upstairs level, take it. It's way more intimate and quiet than downstairs, even if first class is in the front and biz is upstairs. Totally worth it.
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The best international business class or first class airline services are those with Singapore, Cathay, Emirates, Etihad and Air France.
Source: This "trick" worked back in May on my return leg from HKG to YVR. Bought a roundtrip econo seat on sale for 1k, and upgraded to business class for $300 at the gate. I've also used it from JFK to RAK.
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Pro-tip: If your plane has an upstairs level, take it. It's way more intimate and quiet than downstairs, even if first class is in the front and biz is upstairs. Totally worth it.
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The best international business class or first class airline services are those with Singapore, Cathay, Emirates, Etihad and Air France.
When I was traveling constantly for work and actually had status I flew first class a decent bit (thanks to free upgrades or getting bumped to first class if the seats weren't bought up).
Bigger/more comfortable seats
Warm towels pre-take off
Free [premium] drinks
First / faster service
It's definitely a nicer flying experience but not really all that amazing, considering the extra price.
Hahaha this reminded me of my last flight. There was this kid FREAKING out for at least 30 minutes before boarding. They're some of the last to board since the kid is freaking out and... sit down right in first class! Everyone up there was looking horrified and I have never been so happy to be way in the back of the plane.
Bigger/more comfortable seats
Warm towels pre-take off
Free [premium] drinks
First / faster service
It's definitely a nicer flying experience but not really all that amazing, considering the extra price.
Hahaha this reminded me of my last flight. There was this kid FREAKING out for at least 30 minutes before boarding. They're some of the last to board since the kid is freaking out and... sit down right in first class! Everyone up there was looking horrified and I have never been so happy to be way in the back of the plane.
captainraincoat
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Flown first class a couple of times due to being very nice to the plane staff ..the number one difference that i noticed is that first class get these nice lie down seat/bed things but if your over 6ft your shit out of luck in terms of being comfortable and you end up curled in a ball like the fetal position and wake up with a dry as shit throat because of the plane aircon and all the booze they have fed you
i also dont think you could have sex on one of these things as they are about as thick as a yoga mat once you have been on them for a while...i honestly think they feed you the alcohol so you dont notice it...from being in there a couple of times the people are generally rich assholes and if someone brings a kid/infant anywhere near the first class curtain the rich pricks start complaining how they cant concentrate on their work (while they are being fed jim beam on a drip) and the food is actually worse than cattle class......i would not pay for the experience unless i had the whole area to myself
i also dont think you could have sex on one of these things as they are about as thick as a yoga mat once you have been on them for a while...i honestly think they feed you the alcohol so you dont notice it...from being in there a couple of times the people are generally rich assholes and if someone brings a kid/infant anywhere near the first class curtain the rich pricks start complaining how they cant concentrate on their work (while they are being fed jim beam on a drip) and the food is actually worse than cattle class......i would not pay for the experience unless i had the whole area to myself
My life dream to be able to afford business class (let alone first class) for all flights.
I've flown quite a lot, but pretty much all economy. I've flown twice business class, both long hauls, and both were freaking amazing... its not quite worth the cost, that's what makes it so special. Both were because of airline errors. It really makes economy cattle class because you're cramped with other passengers (worse if its a lowcost airline)
Flying business again this December but with Airasia, which is pretty shitty, because the meal is crap, but for $400AU special from KL to Melbourne, its lower than an economy ticket
I've flown quite a lot, but pretty much all economy. I've flown twice business class, both long hauls, and both were freaking amazing... its not quite worth the cost, that's what makes it so special. Both were because of airline errors. It really makes economy cattle class because you're cramped with other passengers (worse if its a lowcost airline)
Flying business again this December but with Airasia, which is pretty shitty, because the meal is crap, but for $400AU special from KL to Melbourne, its lower than an economy ticket
i have flown business class a few times (only because i wasn't paying for it)....and yes its amazing but its just so overpriced. On Singapore Airlines, Economy to London (from Australia) is around $2k (AUD), Business Class is $8k-$10k and First Class Suites are i think $20k
unless your ridiculously rich, just isn't worth it IMO if its your own money....my work paid for it so i was happy to take advantage. Company policy means any international flight is business class
unless your ridiculously rich, just isn't worth it IMO if its your own money....my work paid for it so i was happy to take advantage. Company policy means any international flight is business class
chickdigger802
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Don't fly much, so was wondering, how does this work out? Why doesn't everyone just fly first class with buying miles? Is buying miles process a pain?
I dont drink, and I dont really care about gourmet food on a flight. The only thing I really want is a flat place to sleep which business class offers, so I cant really see the point in paying to sit in 1st class other than to socialize for work or just to be seen.
And I think if you're flying first class, shouldn't you just be flying in a private jet at that point? The price point of first class always confused me. Seems pointless. Here you are all proud of your stupid matress in the sky when you could be flying in a private jet or something.
And I think if you're flying first class, shouldn't you just be flying in a private jet at that point? The price point of first class always confused me. Seems pointless. Here you are all proud of your stupid matress in the sky when you could be flying in a private jet or something.
doesn't work in the UK on BA or partners at least. You get the flight 'free' but you still have to pay for airport tax and fuel duty - which can often be more expensive than buying a discounted economy ticket with money :/
Best used only for upgrades.
QFT - work colleague has done it a few times with emirates, but his tip is this.
Always get there early (like way early) 1/2 an hour to an hour early to make sure you are the very first in line. Ask if there are any complimentary business class seats available for upgrade. If there are not, ask to be put on a waiting list for seats. Depending on who turns up, they may upgrade you. My work colleague has been upgraded twice as a result (on Emirates).
Uni on Everything!
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I used to fly first relatively often. The domestic flights are nothing special but international flights are much much better. The biggest benefit is all the extra room you get (a big perk if you're tall and especially on the A380s), but if you are able to sleep through most of the flight it's probably not as worth it.
Don't travel as much these days so haven't been in first for a while now.
Don't travel as much these days so haven't been in first for a while now.
That's why its called business class. You know for rich people.
Also if you're on say 500k a year, business class isn't that expensive.
Because 99.9% of the time the costs/miles don't work out that way and you'll actually be paying more to buy the miles than it would cost to just pay for the seat.
I'm pretty shocked that it is only 32.5k - 60k miles for the flight he listed - I can't even find domestic (economy) seats for less than 50k points usually.
QuicheFontaine
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Never ;_;
It's definitely on my bucket list though: "Turn left after getting on a plane"
It's definitely on my bucket list though: "Turn left after getting on a plane"
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Flying first class is my favorite thing on international flights, for domestic flights it's kind of a waste. The chairs recline back into an almost bed like position, you've got a more functional table and outlets for your stuff. I've even gotten internet on some planes.
The best though is how you can just ask for beverages and they'll get em to you.
The best though is how you can just ask for beverages and they'll get em to you.
lunchtoast
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Just once when I was a teenager. We got bumped to 1st for some reason. It was domestic so just a nice seat and real silverware.
I flew economy plus earlier this year and it was great. Enough leg room for me (6'4) and it was just an extra 30-40 bucks.
I flew economy plus earlier this year and it was great. Enough leg room for me (6'4) and it was just an extra 30-40 bucks.
flown in premium cabins a lot for work, there is a world of difference between premium long haul and internal US flights which I think of as flying busses, even in the premium cabins.
on BA long haul difference between biz and first:
- on either you never wait, first has its own row of chk in desks and most of them are empty, then straight to fast track through security, once through security the concorde room is directly on your right about 5 foot away so you don't have to mingle with common people at all
- first you get a better lounge, concorde room at LHR T5, booze is better than the crappy business class lounges. It is nicer, less people, the booze is better. There is also a sit down ALC restaurant, just sit there pigging out you can order whatever you want for no extra. You can also get a private room with a bed in it to chill out. Also one spa treatment is included. If you get access to a decent lounge, arrive at the airport half a day early and rinse it.
- on the plane, when you get to the door and they clock you're in first, they lead you to your seat personally.
- bigger seat, bigger TV, I am 6,2 and can stretch out fine. If you want to sleep tell a steward and they will make your bed, put down a little mattress, duvet, pillow while you change into your free pjs.
- food is better but most plane food is crap. Multicourse meal served on plates with real metal cutlery. Personal service, they use your name all the time. At the end of the meal they give you a box of high end chocs tell you to help yourself and then pass it round the rest of the first class cabin.
- the big difference is the booze. First time I wasn't planning to drink. Then I clocked the booze. Quality is very good, vintage champagne, very good wines, high end spirits. Anyone with a moderate interest in booze should plan to get completely wasted. I go for the lot, champagne pre take off, keep drinking champagne till meal (you should be able to get at least 200 bucks down your neck with a bit of effort) - then rinse a different wine with each course - you like the wine? Drink more. Finish with a vintage tawny port with the cheese, then linger over a cognac or armagnac till its time to hit the scotch. You should drink till you pass out.
- I think it's genuinely lovely and am always disappointed when it's time to land. In cattle class its a nightmare but first is genuinely relaxing and if you need to work when you land you don't feel like hammered shit (tho you prob won't be able to drink as much if you need to work straight off the plane)
- the worst thing is when you don't travel first you are disappointed, disappointed in business class which also costs thousands. It fucks everything else up.
The cost for all this finery? Return ticket to the US from England can blow well past £10,000 easily for a flight thats around a grand in cattle class / £4-5k in business class. Thats a lot of booze you need to neck to make that worthwhile. And I hope to god you're not paying for it personally unless you are completely minted.
on BA long haul difference between biz and first:
- on either you never wait, first has its own row of chk in desks and most of them are empty, then straight to fast track through security, once through security the concorde room is directly on your right about 5 foot away so you don't have to mingle with common people at all
- first you get a better lounge, concorde room at LHR T5, booze is better than the crappy business class lounges. It is nicer, less people, the booze is better. There is also a sit down ALC restaurant, just sit there pigging out you can order whatever you want for no extra. You can also get a private room with a bed in it to chill out. Also one spa treatment is included. If you get access to a decent lounge, arrive at the airport half a day early and rinse it.
- on the plane, when you get to the door and they clock you're in first, they lead you to your seat personally.
- bigger seat, bigger TV, I am 6,2 and can stretch out fine. If you want to sleep tell a steward and they will make your bed, put down a little mattress, duvet, pillow while you change into your free pjs.
- food is better but most plane food is crap. Multicourse meal served on plates with real metal cutlery. Personal service, they use your name all the time. At the end of the meal they give you a box of high end chocs tell you to help yourself and then pass it round the rest of the first class cabin.
- the big difference is the booze. First time I wasn't planning to drink. Then I clocked the booze. Quality is very good, vintage champagne, very good wines, high end spirits. Anyone with a moderate interest in booze should plan to get completely wasted. I go for the lot, champagne pre take off, keep drinking champagne till meal (you should be able to get at least 200 bucks down your neck with a bit of effort) - then rinse a different wine with each course - you like the wine? Drink more. Finish with a vintage tawny port with the cheese, then linger over a cognac or armagnac till its time to hit the scotch. You should drink till you pass out.
- I think it's genuinely lovely and am always disappointed when it's time to land. In cattle class its a nightmare but first is genuinely relaxing and if you need to work when you land you don't feel like hammered shit (tho you prob won't be able to drink as much if you need to work straight off the plane)
- the worst thing is when you don't travel first you are disappointed, disappointed in business class which also costs thousands. It fucks everything else up.
The cost for all this finery? Return ticket to the US from England can blow well past £10,000 easily for a flight thats around a grand in cattle class / £4-5k in business class. Thats a lot of booze you need to neck to make that worthwhile. And I hope to god you're not paying for it personally unless you are completely minted.
Mr.Wreckless
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If the flight is 4 hours or longer then i get the business class seats. I just cant sit in that cramped coach area for that long.
When i went to Costa Rica coach was $380 and business class was $800. The extra comfort was worth it. I have a ton of miles with Delta that im saving for a trip to either Europe or Africa. There is no way i could sit in coach on those trips.
When i went to Costa Rica coach was $380 and business class was $800. The extra comfort was worth it. I have a ton of miles with Delta that im saving for a trip to either Europe or Africa. There is no way i could sit in coach on those trips.
chickdigger802
Banned
why don't people just pay the extra cash for economy plus when offered?
its worth it for the extra leg room. no one really needs the other fluff, unless you get it for free from work or burning miles.
its worth it for the extra leg room. no one really needs the other fluff, unless you get it for free from work or burning miles.
Flown business class 5 times over the last 6 months in my international travel for work. While the things noted here are all very nice (particularly the ability to lay flat and sleep) I think the part I've grown to appreciate the most, is the fact that your luggage comes off of plane first.
Just yesterday I left Tokyo at 2:45PM Tokyo Time, 12 hours later I was in Houston, Then 4 hours later (customs, layover) caught final leg home. Getting my bag ASAP and able to head home was great.
In other news I had a really long Sunday... after 16 hours of flight/layovers I was home basically 4 hours after I left Tokyo.
Just yesterday I left Tokyo at 2:45PM Tokyo Time, 12 hours later I was in Houston, Then 4 hours later (customs, layover) caught final leg home. Getting my bag ASAP and able to head home was great.
In other news I had a really long Sunday... after 16 hours of flight/layovers I was home basically 4 hours after I left Tokyo.
US Domestic First class only. Varies from the same as business class to rather large seats with movies that are in the theater. Nothing I thought was anywhere close to the money.
I was lucky on my trips to Japan to get a full row to myself on the way back and a space between me and the other guy on the way their.
I was lucky on my trips to Japan to get a full row to myself on the way back and a space between me and the other guy on the way their.
I always fly Delta and most of the time I don't assign myself a seat in coach so they put me in 1st. With them is mostly better seats with a lot more leg space, hot attendants, better food ( I think is the kind of food you have to pay for in coach but is free in 1st ) and a complimentary drink.
just once in my life, I flew first class from Frankfurt, Germany to Cape Town, South Africa with Lufthansa.
it was a bit uneventful I must say, yes, you had more space, champagne and peanuts but nothing like the pics in this thread, Not really worth it, good thing my ex-BF decided to take me to his vacation trip lol. ,
it was a bit uneventful I must say, yes, you had more space, champagne and peanuts but nothing like the pics in this thread, Not really worth it, good thing my ex-BF decided to take me to his vacation trip lol. ,
echoshifting
Banned
I've flown first class a few times on other people's dime, as well as a private jet on a couple of occasions. I'd never fork out the cash myself for these things, but man, it's a totally different experience. Especially the jet of course.
Stretch seating though, I always pay for. Totally worth it for me. Modern coach seating is absurdly cramped.
Stretch seating though, I always pay for. Totally worth it for me. Modern coach seating is absurdly cramped.
A fair amount.
Worst is European domestic- same service and seats but with the middle seat blocked out. Wat.
Next worst is US domestic: Bigger seat, occasionally power, free alcohol, terrible food.
Next worst is Iceland Air Saga class. Same as above but crazy expensive.
Then it is older US planes with not quite flat beds.
Then anything with a flat bed is pretty nice.
Then Asian first class.
Top of the heap is Middle Eastern first class, excluding Israel.
Worst is European domestic- same service and seats but with the middle seat blocked out. Wat.
Next worst is US domestic: Bigger seat, occasionally power, free alcohol, terrible food.
Next worst is Iceland Air Saga class. Same as above but crazy expensive.
Then it is older US planes with not quite flat beds.
Then anything with a flat bed is pretty nice.
Then Asian first class.
Top of the heap is Middle Eastern first class, excluding Israel.
TekGryphon
Banned
Wife's brother works for an airline, we get first class tickets once a year.
It's nice getting it for free, but I would never, ever, ever pay for it. Not even if it cost a third of what it does.
I'm not trying to start shit but I honestly feel that people who "need" first class are empty people. A self contained person can read, listen to music, sleep, play games, talk, or do anything else to pass the time. Paying for first class is for people who need to surround themselves with token (like, really token) comforts.
It's nice getting it for free, but I would never, ever, ever pay for it. Not even if it cost a third of what it does.
I'm not trying to start shit but I honestly feel that people who "need" first class are empty people. A self contained person can read, listen to music, sleep, play games, talk, or do anything else to pass the time. Paying for first class is for people who need to surround themselves with token (like, really token) comforts.
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