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Anyone have one of those Mac Mini's?

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Hollywood

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After hearing about Revolution, and comparisons ... I looked up on it, and it does look sleek. Anyone have one, and a picture of one on their desk or something? I guess a flat screen monitor with it would make it sleek to look at right? Hows the features on it?
 

Laurent

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I have one, but unfortunately, I haven't taken pictures of it... What do you want to know exactly? It's smaller than you think, even when you expect it to be small, BAM!

I have order the entry model, with the Superdrive upgrade (DVD burner if you will) which is compatible with both DVD-R and DVD+R. I call it my DVD-Ripping machine, since it can rip, compress and burn a DVD in less than an hour...
 

Laurent

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Here some pictures... It's even smaller than my Power Mac G4 Cube:

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Under the Mac mini, grey rubber:

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Hollywood

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So you could take that thing around with you if you wanted with no problem? Damn thats sweet. Is it sufficently powerful to run all the new programs, OS's, and stuff, and maybe some games? I know power has hit a glass ceiling in most pc's and mac's but i see powermac G5 dual whatevers out there selling for $3000 ... and I just wonder, what is all that needed for?
 

Laurent

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Hollywood said:
So you could take that thing around with you if you wanted with no problem? Damn thats sweet. Is it sufficently powerful to run all the new programs, OS's, and stuff, and maybe some games? I know power has hit a glass ceiling in most pc's and mac's but i see powermac G5 dual whatevers out there selling for $3000 ... and I just wonder, what is all that needed for?
This is a G4, not a G5. It's not 64 bit but it's powerfull enough to run everything. You could run games with it, if there were any interesting games for Mac OS X... It's light, you have a VGA Adapter, you need it's power cord with it's power supply... It's the perfect Mac to sneak on a PC desk, you plug the monitor, keyboard and mouse, and you're good to go!
 

hobart

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World of Warcraft runs just fine on a G4...

...and I'm told Emulation does as well, if you are into that kinda stuff.
 

Hitokage

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For the OS itself and all applications the Mac Mini performs rather well. It's perfect if you're a console gamer or for whatever reason don't need the latest $300 video card.
 
Laurent said:
I have order the entry model, with the Superdrive upgrade (DVD burner if you will) which is compatible with both DVD-R and DVD+R. I call it my DVD-Ripping machine, since it can rip, compress and burn a DVD in less than an hour...

Is the Superdrive JUST for burning DVDs? Does the standard Mac mini burn regular CDs, or do you need the Superdrive for that?

I'm like, this close to buying a Mac mini. *Holds up thumb and index fingers, almost touching*
I hear they're only worth getting if you upgrade to 512+ RAM, though. Apparently with anything less, even running JUST the OS chuggs. :lol
 
WordAssassin said:
Is the Superdrive JUST for burning DVDs? Does the standard Mac mini burn regular CDs, or do you need the Superdrive for that?

I'm like, this close to buying a Mac mini. *Holds up thumb and index fingers, almost touching*
I hear they're only worth getting if you upgrade to 512+ RAM, though. Apparently with anything less, even running JUST the OS chuggs. :lol

The Superdrive is called a Superdrive because its SUPER! It can do everything: Read CDs and DVDs as well as burn CDs and DVDs. MacMini comes standard with a Combo drive, meaning it reads DVDs, but doesn't write to them. It also reads and writes CDs. You can, however, upgrade to a Superdrive (but this particular model writes DVD±R at 4x) for $100 more.
While I wouldn't say OS X will CHUGG using 256mb of RAM, I would definitely say that 512 should be the minimum. Go buy a 1GB (DDR333) stick for around $90 and you'll be set :D
 

Danj

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Apple Jax said:
World of Warcraft runs just fine on a G4...

I hear that it's no good on a Mac Mini though because of the underspecified graphics (Radeon 9200 with 32 megs, I think it is?). Looks like you'd have to go all the way up to a PowerMac to get one capable of playing it decently, and that's just too much money.
 
I don't see why an iMac wouldn't run WoW fine. They're better spec'd than my dinosaur XP1800/Geforce3 Ti500 pc I'm running WoW on right now. Not that iMacs are exactly cheap either.
 
Cerebral Palsy said:
I don't see why an iMac wouldn't run WoW fine. They're better spec'd than my dinosaur XP1800/Geforce3 Ti500 pc I'm running WoW on right now. Not that iMacs are exactly cheap either.

The current iMacs would smoke World of Warcraft. They just upgraded the video cards.

WoW ran very well on my 1.5 Ghz Powerbook G4.

The iMac is currently speced at 1.8 or 2.0 Ghz G5 with 512MB ram standard and a Radeon 9600 with 128MB of it's own ram. It would output WoW like smooth smooth silk.
 

Laurent

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WordAssassin said:
Is the Superdrive JUST for burning DVDs? Does the standard Mac mini burn regular CDs, or do you need the Superdrive for that?

I'm like, this close to buying a Mac mini. *Holds up thumb and index fingers, almost touching*
I hear they're only worth getting if you upgrade to 512+ RAM, though. Apparently with anything less, even running JUST the OS chuggs. :lol
Like he said, the Superdrive does everything. I was assuming that a DVD drive could also burn CD, and that all that pep talk about how "teh Superdrive can do both!!!" was just PR, but apparently, you guys (PC) need 2 drives to do both job, other than paying the extra that a DVD±R / CD-R/RW burner cost...

I haven't upgraded my RAM. It's not the end of the world (the computer is still faster than my Power Mac G4 Cube, with 500MHz and 768Mb of RAM.
 

Danj

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Laurent said:
Like he said, the Superdrive does everything. I was assuming that a DVD drive could also burn CD, and that all that pep talk about how "teh Superdrive can do both!!!" was just PR, but apparently, you guys (PC) need 2 drives to do both job, other than paying the extra that a DVD±R / CD-R/RW burner cost...

Er, what? PC DVD writers can burn CDs as well, and they're also incredibly cheap (just look at the NEC ND-3520A for example). If Apple are saying that you need two drives on a PC, it's just more marketing rubbish, it isn't true at all.
 

Hitokage

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Danj said:
Er, what? PC DVD writers can burn CDs as well, and they're also incredibly cheap (just look at the NEC ND-3520A for example). If Apple are saying that you need two drives on a PC, it's just more marketing rubbish, it isn't true at all.
Yeah, my not-too-expensive $70-at-the-time Pioneer DVR-108 can indeed read/write both DVDs and CDs great...

...but one thing it can't do in the least is rip CDDA worth a damn. :(
 

Danj

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Hitokage said:
Yeah, my not-too-expensive $70-at-the-time Pioneer DVR-108 can indeed read/write both DVDs and CDs great...

...but one thing it can't do in the least is rip CDDA worth a damn. :(

What drives are good for audio extraction these days? I used to recommend Lite-ON DVD-ROMs for that, but that was a while ago.. is there anything better?
 

Laurent

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Danj said:
Er, what? PC DVD writers can burn CDs as well, and they're also incredibly cheap (just look at the NEC ND-3520A for example). If Apple are saying that you need two drives on a PC, it's just more marketing rubbish, it isn't true at all.
They never said that. They said that their incredible drive could do both. And that was back before they introduced the flat pannel iMac (2001-ish...)
 

shantyman

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Hitokage said:
Yeah, my not-too-expensive $70-at-the-time Pioneer DVR-108 can indeed read/write both DVDs and CDs great...

...but one thing it can't do in the least is rip CDDA worth a damn. :(

AFAIK, this is the exact drive series Apple has been using all along for their Superdrives. The only difference is in the firmware.

My Dual G5 work machine has a PIONEER DVR-106D.
 

Laurent

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shantyman said:
AFAIK, this is the exact drive series Apple has been using all along for their Superdrives. The only difference is in the firmware.

My Dual G5 work machine has a PIONEER DVR-106D.
You are right... The first batch of Superdrive were Pioneer DVR-10X, but now you have many brand of drives... My PowerBook is a Matshita DVD-R UJ-815 (Panasonic), my friend has an LG branded Superdrive with her iMac G4 17"...
 

Hitokage

Setec Astronomer
Danj said:
What drives are good for audio extraction these days? I used to recommend Lite-ON DVD-ROMs for that, but that was a while ago.. is there anything better?
The Sony DDU-1621 I have as a second optical drive, fortunately, is excellent for CDDA ripping. It may not be the fastest, but it supports everything EAC wants in a ripper(I'm a data integrity uber alles guy). It also has digital audio out on the back which my pioneer doesn't, so it works out in that respect.
 
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