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[Speevy]

Relative to anything else, Xbox 360 hardware and individual software performed well. I can't believe the number of posts to the contrary.

Yeah, it's probably never going to be "Runaway Momentum", but that's not what the Xbox platform was built on anyway.

 

[ghostlyjoe]

Relative to anything else, Xbox 360 hardware and individual software performed well. I can't believe the number of posts to the contrary.

Yeah, it's probably never going to be "Runaway Momentum", but that's not what the Xbox platform was built on anyway.

Lack of demand isn't the problem. It's the inability to meet demand that's killing them. I simply expect demand for the 360 to take a big hit once the PS3 date is set and the hype begins to build. Now's their chance to really move some systems and build a lead. They're blowing it.

 

[metropolis]

"The handheld market is almost the perfect market situation at the moment. Two different systems with different capabilities, both doing well, with entirely different software catalogs."

very good comment. they are BOTH doing perfectly fine. so everyone better deal with it because i can't see either of them going away.

 

[Striek]

Strong 360 software performance = :O

Oh and PSP soft > DS...barely...hooray? Maybe we'll see something interesting with the glut of great PSP titles in Feb and (especially) March.

 

[Speevy]

Lack of demand isn't the problem. It's the inability to meet demand that's killing them. I simply expect demand for the 360 to take a big hit once the PS3 date is set and the hype begins to build. Now's their chance to really move some systems and build a lead. They're blowing it.

"Building a lead" is irrelevant. Unless the gaming industry warps into some alternate dimension, the PS3 is going to outsell it.

How many units did the PS2 sell in its first year?
A year and a half?
2 years?

Whatever those numbers are, they were sufficient by themselves to outsell the Gamecube and Xbox.

The Xbox 360 was never expected to create an insurmountable lead of consoles relative to the PS3.

 

[ghostlyjoe]

I can't see either of them going away.

They're both extremely succesful. Some analysts and fanboys are annoyed by that fact, but that's just because they're idiots and/or have an emotional (or financial) agenda.

 

[ghostlyjoe]

"Building a lead" is irrelevant. Unless the gaming industry warps into some alternate dimension, the PS3 is going to outsell it.

How many units did the PS2 sell in its first year?
A year and a half?
2 years?

Whatever those numbers are, they were sufficient by themselves to outsell the Gamecube and Xbox.

The Xbox 360 was never expected to create an insurmountable lead of consoles relative to the PS3.

If they didn't care to build momentum, why did they bother launching first? Why make public statements about the significance of having a head start?

I don't doubt the PS3 will sell very well, but the status quo doesn't always hold, either. It's a new generation, and everyone's starting fresh. MS made their play first, and they stumbled out of the gate. They can still right themselves, but their head start advantage is all but erased.

 

[verplant]

Anyone an idea of the "Nintendogs Best Friends (Bundle)" sales?

 

[jarrod]

PSP outsold DS for the month of January despite Nintendogs, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing. In hardware and software. Looking at software numbers PSP software numbers are ahead of DS software numbers for the month with these blockbusters included. Not sure what more Sony needs to accomplish, outselling the market leader in both hardware and software for the month despite the competition having some blockbuster sellers would be considered OK in my book.

Inversely, a new handheld PlayStation with a brand new exclusive GTA, console level Madden/Winning Eleven/sports games and near full hollywood support of mainstream film releases is barely outselling a handheld N64 who's main "blockbuster" is a virtual dog you get to walk and play frisbee with. In America, in hardware or software. Always good to put some perspective on things... what happens when "real" blockbusters like Mario, Tetris and Pokemon show up?

 

[DefectiveReject]

Inversely, a new handheld PlayStation with a brand new exclusive GTA, console level Madden/Winning Eleven/sports games and near full hollywood support of mainstream film releases is barely outselling a handheld N64 who's main "blockbuster" is a virtual dog you get to walk and play frisbee with. In America, in hardware or software. Always good to put some perspective on things... what happens when "real" blockbusters like Mario, Tetris and Pokemon show up?

Have bundles been added to those figures?
And good points there too jarrod

 

[ziran]

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2253&Itemid=2

Top 20

1 CALL OF DUTY 2 360
2 MADDEN NFL 06 PS2
3 MVP 06 NCAA BASEBALL PS2
4 GTA: LIBERTY CITY STORIES PSP
5 MARIO KART NDS
6 ANIMAL CROSSING: WILD WORLD NDS
7 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED PS2
8 DEAD OR ALIVE 4 360
9 STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II PS2
10 GTA: SAN ANDREAS SPECIAL EDITION PS2
11 WWE SMACKDOWN! VS RAW 2006 PS2
12 GUN PS2
13 25 TO LIFE PS2
14 SOCOM: U.S. NAVY SEALS PSP
15 NBA LIVE 06 PS2
16 NINTENDOGS: DACHSHUND & FRIENDS NDS
17 MADDEN NFL 06 360
18 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED PSP
19 CALL OF DUTY 2: BIG RED ONE PS2
20 MVP 06 NCAA BASEBALL XBX

 

[Mook1e]

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2253&Itemid=2

Top 20

1 CALL OF DUTY 2 360
2 MADDEN NFL 06 PS2
3 MVP 06 NCAA BASEBALL PS2
4 GTA: LIBERTY CITY STORIES PSP
5 MARIO KART NDS
6 ANIMAL CROSSING: WILD WORLD NDS
7 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED PS2
8 DEAD OR ALIVE 4 360
9 STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II PS2
10 GTA: SAN ANDREAS SPECIAL EDITION PS2
11 WWE SMACKDOWN! VS RAW 2006 PS2
12 GUN PS2
13 25 TO LIFE PS2
14 SOCOM: U.S. NAVY SEALS PSP
15 NBA LIVE 06 PS2
16 NINTENDOGS: DACHSHUND & FRIENDS NDS
17 MADDEN NFL 06 360
18 NEED FOR SPEED: MOST WANTED PSP
19 CALL OF DUTY 2: BIG RED ONE PS2
20 MVP 06 NCAA BASEBALL XBX

Awesome SOCOM at 14. That game rox. I don't care what anyone says, it's the best handheld shooter to date. (maybe until MP:Hunters)

 

[jarrod]

Have bundles been added to those figures?
And good points there too jarrod

Nope and thanks.

 

[Oxymoron]

Has anybody posted this yet?

Sega of America today reported continued strong sales of its Dreamcast game consoles, but trouble may still loom for the company.

Sega said 1.55 million of the devices were sold by the end of 1999 in the United States. Such sales would seem to answer critics who wonder if the company's newest console would sell in foreign markets after floundering initially in Japan. U.S. sales reached the 1.5 million mark in about three and a half months, compared to 1 million units sold in four months after the launch in Japan.

But with the company continuing to lose money and products from Sony and Nintendo expected later this year that will leapfrog the 128-bit chip in the Dreamcast system, analysts still aren't certain the company will fully recover from its past mistakes. Sony, in particular, has been pushing the benefits of its upcoming PlayStation 2.

http://news.com.com/2100-1040-235509.html

 

[D3VI0US]

But with the company continuing to lose money and products from Sony and Nintendo expected later this year that will leapfrog the 128-bit chip in the Dreamcast system, analysts still aren't certain the company will fully recover from its past mistakes.

 

[RaijinFY]

Has anybody posted this yet?

http://news.com.com/2100-1040-235509.html

Who said "Dreamcasted"?

 

[ziran]

1 NDS NINTENDOGS
2 360 CALL OF DUTY 2
3 PS2 MADDEN NFL 06
4 PS2 MVP 06 NCAA BASEBALL
5 PSP GTA: LIBERTY CITY STORIES
6 NDS MARIO KART
7 NDS ANIMAL CROSSING: WILD WORLD
8 PS2 NEED SPEED: MOST WANTED 88,000
9 360 DEAD OR ALIVE 4
10 PS2 STAR WARS: BATTLEFRONT II
11 PS2 WWE SMACKDOWN! VS RAW 2006

Thats a damn strong performance from Nintendogs. I wonder how much it actually sold? Surely less than the DS hardware for the month? Still, the top 3 DS games are over 300K(seeing as Mario Kart and Animal Crossing are over 88K each), must be the typical story where the rest of the library lags whereas the psp sees more consistent sales throughout its library of games. NFS is also doing poor, ps2 version is down 38% compared to last year. I wander when/if Sony will cut the price on the ps2? Maybe in a couple of months just when the 360 is getting into a decent situation in terms of stock levels?

i agree.

nintendogs success is amazing. the best selling game of jan (6 months after launch) and over 100k for 6 consecutive months! very few games manage this, let alone a new ip on a console with a ~4 million user base.

 

[AirBrian]

PSP outsold DS for the month of January despite Nintendogs, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing. In hardware and software. Looking at software numbers PSP software numbers are ahead of DS software numbers for the month with these blockbusters included. Not sure what more Sony needs to accomplish, outselling the market leader in both hardware and software for the month despite the competition having some blockbuster sellers would be considered OK in my book.

Inversely, a new handheld PlayStation with a brand new exclusive GTA, console level Madden/Winning Eleven/sports games and near full hollywood support of mainstream film releases is barely outselling a handheld N64 who's main "blockbuster" is a virtual dog you get to walk and play frisbee with. In America, in hardware or software. Always good to put some perspective on things... what happens when "real" blockbusters like Mario, Tetris and Pokemon show up?

:lol :lol I love these threads.

 

[RaijinFY]

SOCOM PSP beyond SOCOM 3 PS2? Wow...

 

[PhoenixDark]

I've got my lube, my tissue, and the butter...but I don't have any numbers. Phoenix am cry.

 

[RaijinFY]

Al least, some estimations Bunkum, plz?

 

[aronnov]

Al least, some estimations Bunkum, plz?

concurs.. how about estimated to the nearest 5 thousand?

 

[tanasten]

The DS would sell like hot cakes if there were Nintendogs Bundles everywhere. Shit, NOA should die. Look whats doing those dogs in Europe, they're taking the continent by storm and no one can't stop them.

Meanwhile NOA does nothing to solve this problem PSP can enjoy selling more systems than DS, but things are gona change very soon, with tetris online, New super Mario Bros and the Brain Training series... DS is gonna outsell like in Japan.

 

[Ghengis Cohen]

The DS would sell like hot cakes if there were Nintendogs Bundles everywhere. Shit, NOA should die. Look whats doing those dogs in Europe, they're taking the continent by storm and no one can't stop them.

Meanwhile NOA does nothing to solve this problem PSP can enjoy selling more systems than DS, but things are gona change very soon, with tetris online, New super Mario Bros and the Brain Training series... DS is gonna outsell like in Japan.

I can see why this was bumped.

 

[Mrbob]

The DS would sell like hot cakes if there were Nintendogs Bundles everywhere. Shit, NOA should die. Look whats doing those dogs in Europe, they're taking the continent by storm and no one can't stop them.

Meanwhile NOA does nothing to solve this problem PSP can enjoy selling more systems than DS, but things are gona change very soon, with tetris online, New super Mario Bros and the Brain Training series... DS is gonna outsell like in Japan.

Wow you bumped a week old thread just to say this?

Should have started a new thread.

 

[tanasten]

You're right. I tought I see this on the firts page :?

Shit. I'm sorry to disturb.