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Willco

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I had a back injury in June. It was pretty serious. Killed most of my summer. Went to the ER, couldn't move and they pumped me full of God knows what to get me able to walk out there. Been doing physical therapy every week since then.

Back pain has flared up again pretty bad recently. Physical therapist is recommending that I get a MRI. Thinks it's a ruptured disc. Anyone know what a ruptured disc is and what that entails?
 

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DarienA said:
I apparently need to have my glasses prescription redone because I thought this thread was title "Anybody know anything about blacks?"

You weren't the only one. I was going to say "Yeah, a little bit."
 

DarienA

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DaCocoBrova said:
DarienA... What's with the tag change?

I'm not sure I think it happened during the thread where we were talking about that girl from the Apprentice getting fired from her real job because of the old Jewish lady comments.

I posted in there something like.

"I talk about whitey all the time... and nobody has come and gra"
 
Willco said:
I had a back injury in June. It was pretty serious. Killed most of my summer. Went to the ER, couldn't move and they pumped me full of God knows what to get me able to walk out there. Been doing physical therapy every week since then.

Back pain has flared up again pretty bad recently. Physical therapist is recommending that I get a MRI. Thinks it's a ruptured disc. Anyone know what a ruptured disc is and what that entails?

Yeah, get an MRI. Slipped or ruptured disks really suck. You want those suckers in line.
 

dem

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I thought the title said "Anyone know anything about blacks?" which would have made for a humourous thread.
 

way more

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I had a ruptured disk and let me tell you, you're in for a long slog. It happened like two years ago and I'll still pull my back, I did just last week and I'm still limping all over the place.

The solution is to build of a bunch of muscle and take pilates. And sorry that you must go through the medical system for a condition which takes a year to fully diagnose.
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
mac said:
I had a ruptured disk and let me tell you, you're in for a long slog. It happened like two years ago and I'll still pull my back, I did just last week and I'm still limping all over the place.

The solution is to build of a bunch of muscle and take pilates. And sorry that you must go through the medical system for a condition which takes a year to fully diagnose.

Yeah, it would've been nice to know this may have been the case back in June when this incident first occured. My physical therapist is limited in what he can do and recommend as he is not my primary care physician, so I really can't blame him. Getting authorization for this MRI took some work.

In June, I was lifting furniture at work. It wasn't anything new. I do it all the time. I'm a big guy and pretty strong, so I usually go to task on items two people have to lift. Unfortunately, I bent over and got up and went straight to floor.

I tell you what, there's nothing scarier than being 20-years-old and on the floor, completely unable to move and in unbearable pain. I never experienced anything like that in my life.

I go to physical therapy twice a week and starting taking strength and conditioning classes twice a week in an effort to stabilize my back and build up the upper body strength I've pretty much completely lost.

That's one thing I don't get. I understand months of doing very little physical labor and lifting following the accident would make me a bit weaker, but I'm a lot weaker. It's pretty ridiculous and it's pretty much only a problem with upper body strength.

One more thing. Do you have to get naked for MRIs?
 

Myllz

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Slipped and ruptured discs can mean surgery to fix the problem. Take the MRI, but ask your doctor about chiropratics as well. Physio can sometimes make the problem worse, if your back isn't aligned properly. Of course, if the MRI shows big problems, don't start chiropractice therapy.

And about the loss of strength, tell me about it. Even mere whiplash can cut your strength for up to two years. It'll come back, but in time.
 

way more

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Dragona Akehi said:
Take the MRI, but ask your doctor about chiropratics as well. Physio can sometimes make the problem worse, if your back isn't aligned properly. Of course, if the MRI shows big problems, don't start chiropractice therapy.

Most docs will tell you that your chiropractor can suck his (or her) dick.

The same thing happended to me, I had the injury and just went to PT so I'll never know if it was a slipped disk. My Dad is a doc so we were getting all sorts of tests (when the problem arose again) and nothing came of it. Now I'm just planning on building up my back strength as soon as I recover from this little set back.

Actually the problem may have occured due to the the fact that my right leg is stronger then my left, something I discovered last year.

You change into a pair of shorts for the MRI. You might be able to wear your own clothing without any metal in it and do it.
 

Darias

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Perhaps I missed it, but I didn't see anyone answer your question as to what a slipped disc is, so I'll give it a shot.

*Edit - smacks forehead - just found DarienA's post. . . directly below yours... sigh. I'm going to bed*


<disclaimer - I am not in the medical profession, so please research my information before making decisions on it>

What I understand ruptured or slipped discs to be are these...

Your back is make up of several bones, each about the width of your hand, arranged vertically atop one another. Between each of these bones is a tough piece of tissue referred to as the "disc" From what I understand, it has the texture of a gristly pencil eraser (Don't ask, this is how it was explained to me) and exists to pad the bones from grinding against each other too hard. The bones themselves have a pencil sized opening through each of them in which your spinal nerves reside.

Basically, when strain on your back is severe, frequently due to heavy / improper lifting, or a torsional strain on your back, the discs may either be compacted to such an extent that they split down the side (Think squashing an orange with a book) or they slide slightly out of position.

In either case, pieces of these discs may suddenly be out of place, and therefore pushing on or contacting the nerves in your back, which causes the inflammation and the pain.

Surgery is frequently used to correct this problem, because there is no effective way of sliding the discs back into place. So instead, they cut away the excess pieces, and suggest a regimin of anti-inflammatories, pain killers, and physical therapy to not only help the discs regrow the best they can, but also to give the best possible assurance that they do not again split or slide out of alignment.

Coincidentally these discs are also the cause of you being two inches taller when you wake up than when you go to bed.


As far as short term, follow doctors orders. Ibuprofen may help you a great deal, suggesting 400 - 600mg every four to six hours. Ibuprofen is not actually a pain releaver, but an nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory. This will cut down on the inflammation of the nerves in your back from the disc irritation, and therefore cut the amount of damage being done.

Additionally, you need to take it extremely easy on your back if there is a chance of back injury, because it can very easily be compounded. Be wary of lifting things, over stretching / straining your back, or doing anything that may give a sudden jerk to your head, shoulders, arms, or hips.

Lastly, there is a form of meditation that may help you. Although I forget the name, I can describe it for you. What it is is a standing balance meditation. Standing, imagine a rod between your ears, and running from your forehead through the back of your head. These two rods will intesect at the balance point of the skull. Move your head through the range of motion until you feel it balance at the top of your neck. Once you achieve this, work down through your shoulders vertically towards your heels. At each step, move your body until it is in vertical balance with what's below it, without needing muscle strain to keep you standing. When you complete this exercise, you will be standing in a posture of least strain on your body. The more you can maintain this posture, the better it will be on your back.

The reason your doctor has suggested an MRI (or Magnetic Resonance Imaging) is that it will give him or her a highly detailed image of your back. The device is a body sized tube that you lay in, similar to a CAT scan I believe. It is entirely painless, but somewhat noisy. It works through a process of magnetics and radio resonance to build a 3D image of the body part under study. They will tell you to leave anything affected by magnetism off before beginning the test. (piercings, keys, bank cards, etc... ) You do NOT want anything metal near you during the test. (MRI machines are capable of sucking a fully loaded pallet jack into their bore *evil grin* )

I hope this information is helpful, but before you follow it consult a medical professional. Although I have a family full of back problems, I am in no way an expert.

~Darias~
 

AntoneM

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mac said:
Most docs will tell you that your chiropractor can suck his (or her) dick.


funny thing is, most Chiropractors are getting thier dick sucked by your doctors wife.

for minor back pain I reccomend chiropractic care, it worked for me. anything beyond that... I have no idea.
 

bionic77

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Willco said:
I had a back injury in June. It was pretty serious. Killed most of my summer. Went to the ER, couldn't move and they pumped me full of God knows what to get me able to walk out there. Been doing physical therapy every week since then.

Back pain has flared up again pretty bad recently. Physical therapist is recommending that I get a MRI. Thinks it's a ruptured disc. Anyone know what a ruptured disc is and what that entails?

I don't know anything about your specific injury, but I can tell you what I have learned from working at a Worker's Compensation firm one summer as a law clerk and from having a Neurologist for a father. I know that doctor's don't know shit about the back, it is one of the few injuries that you can successfully fake and the doctor will never be the wiser and the same back injury can cripple one man and barely bother another. Hopefully you are one of the people where the injury doesn't bother you much.

And I never hurt my back, but I tore my ACL a few years ago and God, rehab is the worst thing ever.
 

way more

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This seems odd. All doctors I know think chiropractor are scammers. Doctors also are weary of cops and lawyers.
 

bionic77

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mac said:
This seems odd. All doctors I know think chiropractor are scammers. Doctors also are weary of cops and lawyers.

My dad and uncle are both doctors and they deal with backs all the time. They are generally a little wary of chiropractors in general, but they know of a few instances where it has worked and if it helps with the pain, some doctors will recommend it. Back pain can be pretty unbearable for some people and if something works, keep doing it, but the back is such a mystery that there is no solution for everyone.
 
mac said:
This seems odd. All doctors I know think chiropractor are scammers. Doctors also are weary of cops and lawyers.

Well all I know is that the doctors I've seen recommend chiropractic care. I do know it works, and very well at that. It seems odd to me that you say (and it isn't that I don't believe you) that doctors think they are scammers. Very odd.

Also, it's WARY not WEARY. ASLJALKJAKSJDKASJ.
 

way more

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Look at it from their point of view. They've gone through med school, climbed the ladder of the profession, and finally made themselves a practice only to get screwed by the government. A Chiropractor goes to school and gets a B.A.
As why doctors don't get along with cops and lawyers, I've heard various reasons but it seems anecdotal and has a long history.
 

Willco

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bionic77 said:
... Hopefully you are one of the people where the injury doesn't bother you much.

I wish. After the initial injury, I couldn't do much of anything. It hurt when I walked, it hurt when I sat, it hurt when I layed down. It hurt all the time. Physical therapy has really improved things until recently, when for some oddball reason, my back flared up again. Now it hurts a lot and makes it hard to do simple shit like dishes. I just bite my lip and suck it up and go about life.

It kind of bugs me people leech off of Worker's Comp. I busted my ass off in physical therapy and the doctor's office for three weeks to get back to work and life. I think Worker's Comp paid maybe two of my paychecks because I was pretty determined to get back into light duty quickly. And I could've been on it for MONTHS if I wanted to. Even my doctor was like, "... You sure you're ready to go back to work?"

Same thing with drugs. I got Perkaset (sp?) and as soon as the pain was manageable, I dumped that shit in the toilet. That stuff scares the hell out of me. Sure, my back hurt like hell, but I only used it for the five or so days when I hurt so much I couldn't move. My feeling was if I could walk, I didn't need any goddamn drugs.
 
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