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[golem]

also rejected AMD

http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/

Also, all the cell people and the AMD people need to be quiet. Apple evaluated both. AMD has the same, if not worse, supply problems as IBM. Their roadmap is fine, but the production capacity is not.

The tested Cell as well. That processor is NOT intended for PC applications. (it was designed for game systems, not as a general use CPU) The lack of out of order execution and ILP control logic creates very poor performance with existing software. Having developers rewrite for cell would have been MUCH more work than reworking for Intel. And that's what this is, you rework your codebase in ALL cases, not rewrite it.

intel performance impressions also in their article

 

[Phoenix]

People are still missing the primary purpose of the move. The move wasn't REALLY about performance and it REALLY wasn't about yields - it was moreso about total wattage consumed by the CPU and heat dissapation. The simple fact is that Intel may not produce the most innovative and probably not the most performant chip, but they can make them consume a low amount of power and give off a small amount of heat. If Apple went with AMD they would still have a power and heat problem as the cooling situations for the AMD chips is still above and beyond that of the Pentium M. Apple wants to rejuvinate their 'on lifesupport' mobile products business and they simply cannot do that with the current PowerPC line of processors.

You can absolutely expect that one of the early benefactors of the Pentium M move will be the laptop group.

 

[DarienA]

The tested Cell as well. That processor is NOT intended for PC applications. (it was designed for game systems, not as a general use CPU)

Uh... didn't we already know that? I thought we had that discussion waaaaay back?

 

[Pedigree Chum]

You can absolutely expect that one of the early benefactors of the Pentium M move will be the laptop group.

When will we see Pentium M laptops? Sometime in 2006?

I might just wait till they start phasing out the current iBooks to pick one up. Maybe I'll get one on the cheap.

 

[Macam]

I fully expect Apple to have PowerMacs and PowerBooks running with Intels by next year, with the other units coming in afterwards. I'm curious to see what they end up naming their models with the change; good-bye PowerMac G5.

 

[gofreak]

Uh... didn't we already know that? I thought we had that discussion waaaaay back?

We did. And it had. But it's interesting to see that it was put on the table for Apple, and that they came to the same conclusion many of us expected. It might have been wonderful as a "co-processor" in a PC, but the main and only CPU? Nah.

 

[aoi tsuki]

People are still missing the primary purpose of the move. The move wasn't REALLY about performance and it REALLY wasn't about yields - it was moreso about total wattage consumed by the CPU and heat dissapation. The simple fact is that Intel may not produce the most innovative and probably not the most performant chip, but they can make them consume a low amount of power and give off a small amount of heat. If Apple went with AMD they would still have a power and heat problem as the cooling situations for the AMD chips is still above and beyond that of the Pentium M. Apple wants to rejuvinate their 'on lifesupport' mobile products business and they simply cannot do that with the current PowerPC line of processors.

You can absolutely expect that one of the early benefactors of the Pentium M move will be the laptop group.

i agree with this from what i had read elsewhere, but would AMD really have production problems when Apple occupies so little of the overall computer market? Or is that just a red herring?

 

[Hitokage]

We did. And it had. But it's interesting to see that it was put on the table for Apple, and that they came to the same conclusion many of us expected. It might have been wonderful as a "co-processor" in a PC, but the main and only CPU? Nah.

A G5/Cell box would rock.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

my 17" powerbook as sexy as it is... gets hot as hell even worst after tiger
and 1-2 hour battery time sucks for sure. I leave that sucker plugged in

 

[AB 101]

I have to believe the Powerbook is the #1 priority.

The Powermac will be one of the easiest for them to design IMO.

Don't know what they will do with the iMac. The probably could even make it thinner unless they decide to go with a new form factor.

I think they will shit can the eMac.

The Mac mini will be cheap and underpowered.

Really, overhalls of the designs I think are necessary to differentiate themselves from the past.

 

[FiRez]

nvm

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

No question the Powerbooks are the primary concern. The G5 chip is actually pretty powerful, and the duel G5 PowerMac systems are fast. But, the G5 is also huge, and it didn't look like IBM was going to hit the 3 Ghz range as predicted, let alone find a way to scale the processor down to fit into a laptop. Apple wants to phase out the G4 chip and remain competitive in the laptop market. Intel chips make a lot of sense. They are fast, require less power, much cooler, smaller, and cheaper. I'd be surprised if the first Intel Mac's are not laptops, and most likely duel-core.