Those are one or two shots with the display off out of dozens with the display on. Even more egregious are the glamor model pictures with the display on whereas in typical real life scenario the display would almost certainly be off in that position. Almost false advertising by Apple
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Apple Watch |OT| Apple invents the watch!
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Watches are overwhelming fashion accessories first these days (even Apple concedes that). With the face being the main attraction. This is very problematic for any watch connoisseur thinking of getting one IMO. I'm a techie and will still get it but it CANNOT replace any of my Fossils as a go-to watch
SuperPac
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Charging your watch in the middle of the afternoon looks goofy too.
SuperPac
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So what are you arguing here? Many Android Wear watch product pages (whether it's Google's own Android Wear store or the manufacturer's page) don't show the screen off in any pictures when that's the default. You want them to try and sell the device with more pictures of it not in use?
Very true but maybe they just need to make a better battery or bulk up the watch a bit?
People already complain the Watch looks too thick as it is, and if making better batteries was that easy someone would've done it a long time ago.
Apple is going to rely on the bands to make it stand out and be fashionable, not the face.
Kung Fu Jedi
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I'm leaning towards a the black sports model. Not grabbing one at launch as I'll be out of the country for a few weeks. Want to read a few reviews ahead of time, but will probably get one in May after I'm back home.
Some of the comments in here are kind of silly. Want the screen on at all times? This isn't the device for you. Besides, it'll turn on automatically when you look at it. Most smartwatches still fall in the "screen is off when not in use" category.
I have a Cogito Classic "connected watch" and it does just enough to have me intrigued about what a true smartwatch will do. The new videos up on Apple's website are excellent for showing off the features/functionality as well.
Some of the comments in here are kind of silly. Want the screen on at all times? This isn't the device for you. Besides, it'll turn on automatically when you look at it. Most smartwatches still fall in the "screen is off when not in use" category.
I have a Cogito Classic "connected watch" and it does just enough to have me intrigued about what a true smartwatch will do. The new videos up on Apple's website are excellent for showing off the features/functionality as well.
Are these pictures of the device in use or not:
Apple said:
Why is Apple advertising as though the watchface will always be on when the user is not looking at it? In real life scenario if the iWatch screen randomly turned on when the user is making out, or touching their hair, then the iWatch is buggy or broken.
Maybe the user just got done using it and the screen hasn't flipped off yet.
Wrestlemania
Banned
Regarding the two straps thing for the Sport edition and the company doing the swap thing - I'm not so sure it's actually going to be two full straps:
Based on the markings, I wouldn't be surprised if it's just the 'M/L' part that you get two of as it's the bit that will determine the wrist size it fits on and the other half is the same for both.
Based on the markings, I wouldn't be surprised if it's just the 'M/L' part that you get two of as it's the bit that will determine the wrist size it fits on and the other half is the same for both.
so... who's preordering blindly?
who's waiting for reviews?
who's just here to lol?
I'm pretty much here for 2... For what the watch does... the price is way too high (for me). Pebble's price is about right imo... but as always this is just the native stuff. Once a few killer apps show up, I'll just stroll in the store and pick up the "cheap" sport one
Still need to pick up a ps4 this year.... and the 980 ti 1080 or w/e its called.
who's waiting for reviews?
who's just here to lol?
I'm pretty much here for 2... For what the watch does... the price is way too high (for me). Pebble's price is about right imo... but as always this is just the native stuff. Once a few killer apps show up, I'll just stroll in the store and pick up the "cheap" sport one
Still need to pick up a ps4 this year.... and the 980 ti 1080 or w/e its called.
SuperPac
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It matters to you, awesome. I don't have any opinion on this because I already know the Watch's screen isn't always on. *shrug*
I'm sure Apple will promptly block or remove a 'screen saver' from the app store
You'd like to keep it on even if it means the battery lasting 6 hours?
You're not gonna keep the display on.
Forget six hours. The "all-day battery life" use case is as follows:
"90 time checks (each 4 seconds long)
Receive 90 notifications
45 minute of app use
A 30-minute workout with music playback from Apple Watch via Bluetooth and heartrate monitoring"
That adds up to about one hour of the display being on, and another 30 minutes of the watch actively being used with the display off. You'd be fully charging it like five times or more every day if the display didn't turn off. Good luck with that.
Forget six hours. The "all-day battery life" use case is as follows:
"90 time checks (each 4 seconds long)
Receive 90 notifications
45 minute of app use
A 30-minute workout with music playback from Apple Watch via Bluetooth and heartrate monitoring"
That adds up to about one hour of the display being on, and another 30 minutes of the watch actively being used with the display off. You'd be fully charging it like five times or more every day if the display didn't turn off. Good luck with that.
Angelus Errare
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It's going to suck ass but it will sell gangbusters. Shits going to print sooooo much fucking money.
A smartwatch is still a watch...>.>
A smartwatch is still a watch...>.>
In all of these scenarios it seems as if the user is flicking their arm up, thus turning on the Apple Watch display
This is not really going to be a product for "watch connoisseurs" or people who consider a watch just another accessory to be worn, matched, and coordinated.
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Woohoo! Nice thread superpac!
You realize that the setting to turn the screen on and off automatically by your wrist movement is actually optional? It can be set to be turned on manually with a button press and no one has been able to test the watch with the auto-on feature switched off to know if it turns off on a set timer or if it won't turn off until your wrist is lowered. But in either case, none of these images show the watch being any lower than chest level, which means neither possible criteria to turn the display off have been met.
This perhaps isn't the sticking point you're trying to make it be.
Ninja Kn1ght
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Vert excited to get my hands on the  Watch soon!
Keeping the display on permanently would kill the battery and be generally useless. One thing to note is that battery estimates are for the 38mm, the 42 should be noticeably better.
Keeping the display on permanently would kill the battery and be generally useless. One thing to note is that battery estimates are for the 38mm, the 42 should be noticeably better.
Frank Serpico
Banned
When I do eventually get one I'll get the classic leather buckle and the $50 sports band
HUELEN10
Member
This thing is gonna just plain suck for me; battery life is looking like shit for real-world HUELEN use.
You just can't beat a pebble in the watch department. That being said, should I have the funds availible, I will be buying one at launch, just so I can give it a full week of real-world use. If it fails, I will be sad. If it succeeds, I will happily eat crow.
You just can't beat a pebble in the watch department. That being said, should I have the funds availible, I will be buying one at launch, just so I can give it a full week of real-world use. If it fails, I will be sad. If it succeeds, I will happily eat crow.
brianmcdoogle
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What worries me, as an investor and Apple fan, is the rationale why people are buying this. CJ on P1P was nearly incoherent on why he wanted the watch and why it was better than others on the market, and Gruber has been mum on whether or not he would get one on his own (ignoring a potential review unit).
I understand the desire, but a $500+ purchase is beyond me. I understood the iPhone immediately. I cried during the iPad reveal because of its implications. I've been an Apple user for well over a decade and a shareholder for a little less time, but the watch really stumps me.
I hope I'm proven wrong, but Apple, and especially its fans, haven't given me much cause. I guess we'll see this year, especially the holiday season.
I understand the desire, but a $500+ purchase is beyond me. I understood the iPhone immediately. I cried during the iPad reveal because of its implications. I've been an Apple user for well over a decade and a shareholder for a little less time, but the watch really stumps me.
I hope I'm proven wrong, but Apple, and especially its fans, haven't given me much cause. I guess we'll see this year, especially the holiday season.
You can tell Apple have no idea what to do with a watch when they show off a Photos app so you can look at the photos from your phone on your wrist with a tiny, tiny screen. And then recently showing off an instagram app. Just let it sink in how dumb that is when you're tethered phone is sitting in your pocket.
I think they have more ideas on what to do with the watch than they had for the iPad. I never needed the iPad. But it sure is nice anyways. I expect the same thing for the watch.
Moto 360 does it.
Honestly, I don't understand what this brings to the table. There are already android wear watches that do everything these do with better battery life that are slimmer and more importantly more much, MUCH cheaper.
I get the whole apple fandom thing but honestly, this looks like a feeble attempt at capturing the apple audience looking for a device that they can already get elsewhere.
Of course it will sell gangbusters because Apple and all that but still, it just seems like such a cop out device imo.
I get the whole apple fandom thing but honestly, this looks like a feeble attempt at capturing the apple audience looking for a device that they can already get elsewhere.
Of course it will sell gangbusters because Apple and all that but still, it just seems like such a cop out device imo.
Already found an unwanted side effect of smart watches today when I was at the theaters for furious 7.
Old dude in front of me kept scratching the back of his damn head and the watch display turned on to some super bright watchface. Had to politely tell him to stop doing that twice in the movie.
Old dude in front of me kept scratching the back of his damn head and the watch display turned on to some super bright watchface. Had to politely tell him to stop doing that twice in the movie.
Solideliquid
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Like the Milanese loop, but I think in person it'll seem too feminine, and sort of flimsy.
Probably going for steel 42 with either the black sport band, or the black vs dark blue leather loop.
You all think if you have to wash your hands a lot at work the leather will start to look nasty after a while?
Probably going for steel 42 with either the black sport band, or the black vs dark blue leather loop.
You all think if you have to wash your hands a lot at work the leather will start to look nasty after a while?
Not every device clicks with every user. iPhone and iPad didn't click for a LOT of people and even after, there are people who still didn't see the utility of the iPad.
I was one of those people. I wasn't one of those guys who said "it's a giant iPhone" or made fun of the name, but I initially didn't really see how it fit into my day to day life and I didn't feel assured of its potential for success; not that I thought it would flop, I just didn't know how it would turn out in the market. But then other people made iPad sound amazing, I got hyped and I bought one, and then I barely touched it a few months in.
Now I'm seeing the inverse, where Apple Watch makes sense in how it fits into the bigger picture and there's a lot of naysaying and concern over its future in the market from others.
So I guess the lesson here is that your level of excitement for something or your inability to find value in it isn't an automatic measure of failure just because you were excited by other products that sold well. Case in point: you were probably not really jazzed about One Direction or Nickelback music-wise, and yet unfortunately......
I think it says more about Facebook since they made that Instagram app thinking that people would actually want to view photos that way. Apple gonna Apple and more than likely included a Photos app on a lark. But Instagram? Apple didn't force them to make the app, so I dunno what's going on there.
I too have been rather baffled by it, trying to determine what exactly the angle is for the Watch. With the iPhone and iPad, the announcements had some idea regarding what Apple thought they'd be used for. The iPhone was an iPod, a phone, and an internet browser/email client in one. The iPad was something between a laptop and a smartphone that was meant to be better than either at certain tasks. The Watch is just... this thing that sits on your wrists and tells you when you have messages and calls and tracks your heartrate and whatnot. They don't seem to have a clear message for it.
The only angle that makes sense to me is that Apple knows the Watch isn't essential to everyone in the same way a smartphone is so essential. It doesn't do anything your phone doesn't do (except admittedly fitness tracking), it just makes doing some of those things quicker and easier and more frictionless. The Watch is a nice-to-have, not a must-have - in other words, it's a luxury. And that falls in line as well with the prices of the steel and gold models, the existence of the gold models in the first place, the ridiculously high-precision manufacturing processes they're using on things like the link bracelet (9 hours to cut the links for a single band, fucking Christ). It's a non-essential luxury accessory and the whole thing is designed and priced that way.
I only charge my gear s again if I plan on being out past midnight for work, with the display always on, but that's only as a precaution as it's typically only around 35% by 10pm, and I usually have my watch on from around 730am. The trick is the faces have alternate faces that use less resources, but it works great.Maybe the 2nd generation will have it.
The best part about the Apple watch launching is everyone asking me how my Apple watch is. I like switching the face to an Apple watch clone, and showing it off.
BlastProcessing
Member
Gruber has actually talked extensively about buying on on his podcast. He also talked about how his son wants one bad.
If you have been following Apple for only a decade you might have missed the early iPod days. (Jesus I feel old) The Watch reminds me most of the iPod actually. Like the first iPod it's a little pricey ($399). Like the first iPod, the Watch only works as an accessory to another Apple product. I think the Watch's growth curve will more closely follow the iPod than the iPhone or iPad.
Fudgepuppy
Banned
I hope it does good so there's more competition in smartwatches. I love my Pebble and have Pebble Time preordered.
i was disappointed by the lack of narrative during the 2 (somewhat identically empty) keynotes, too.
Then i figured: one of the main narratives would have been "guys, our iPhones have become super annoying. They're getting bigger, clunkier and we keep getting bombarded by notifications in our pockets"
One of the biggest features of smartwatches is the fact that they compensate the "did my mom text me that my dad had a stroke or did amazon just recommend me new underwear"-vibration in our pockets that our phones can't really solve unless you give each of your contacts a different notification tone / vibration pattern.
Of the "things you can actively do with the watch", only the remote camera finder, music controls and the running apps are things i care about. The rest of it is purely passive, ultra-silent notification handling - and you can't really fill a keynote showing someone sitting in a meeting, looking at their wrist from time to time, ignoring a few notifications (which the audience can't hear because of the taptic engine). Don't know how to really demo that.
To anyone's saying it's pricey - it's $349 or $399 for the fully functional model. That's not pricey.
One reviewer said his battery was at 15% at the end of his day.
And his day started at 11am.
So... food for thought.
I'd rather pay a 33% "Apple tax" than convert to Android for a companion accessory.
I'm looking at my instagram feed on my iPhone right now, and my friend posted 4 pics in one frame. Coincidentally, on my 6 Plus, each pic is about the size of a 42mm Apple Watch screen. Hmm! So I'll hold my phone a foot away, like it's a Watch on my wrist. Guess what? I can see adequate detail in each pic.
I'm quite sure this is it.
When looking at the bands bought alone, on the full details it's mentionned that it comes with one small/medium band and one medium/large band.