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Apprentice 10/7

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Mugen

Banned
FUCKING BULLSHIT. The show has jump the fucking shark.

The 'evil' women always congregate and they single out someone collectively. And Trump is buying into their shit which is BS IMO. This is not the Trump that was on the first season where he's more objective AND ahead of everyone. FUCK... Apprentrice has become a direct rip-off survivor.

What's so good about Apprentice is that 'teammates' can't vote out each other. Trump will decide that for you but for some reason, Trump has fucking lost it and relied on other people's opinion on firing.

SHIT... THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT.
 
I like Stacy, she's kind of cute. Well, except for maybe the nose and the annoyingness...


Didn't Stacie J. calls this earlier in the season? These particular women have formed a "high-school clique" where the gang-up and kick out whomever they don't like.
 

Mugen

Banned
Forming a clique is ok if it isn't going to persuade Trump. But Trump for some reason has made the most questionable firings... I can't even spin this shit to be a good call. This one is too much. He has lost it IMO.

Did you guys see the girls always having a meeting (kinda like Survivor) and singling out someone so they can systematically fire them? FUCKING BULLSHIT.

Stacy is out of the picture as to who I most hate. It's Trump who I hate now.
 

andthebeatgoeson

Junior Member
Just not as interested in the show this season. I'm tired of playing up the black chick to be a crazy bitch. It's getting old. The show has shown it's motives in playing up specific points that mean little in the grand scheme of things to put up ratings. But if I wanted just another reality show, I would just turn on Real World. They don't hide the sex and irrelevance. Petty fights and immaturity is expected.

I expect better from Trump. But he's just playing down to the norm. Instead of fulling focusing on getting the job done, small petty fights and arguments are determining the winner. No thanks. I'm not buying. Focus on who does the best and worst job and avoid 3 week old incidents that have nothing to do with the current job.
 

Fifty

Member
BigJonsson said:
Who the hell was Pamela anyway?


I know! Who the hell was she? They said she was with the guys, and she switched teams....but I never saw her around. WTF. Was she an alternate??
 

TheDuce22

Banned
Gawd trump is such a frigging geek. I didnt know people use the term "your ass is grass" in real life.

Edit: I just saw the end. Why is he keeping annoying midget around.
 

MrCheez

President/Creative Director of Grumpyface Studios
skinnyrattler said:
Just not as interested in the show this season. I'm tired of playing up the black chick to be a crazy bitch. It's getting old. The show has shown it's motives in playing up specific points that mean little in the grand scheme of things to put up ratings.

How is it the show that is doing that? It is this group of women. And if you'll notice, they pick a new victim every week. It's not like they turned on Stacey J. for being black. They're all just bitches. =P

I will say that I was really suprised at Trump's decision. Although I don't always agree with his decisions, I've always understood at least where he was coming from. The "you can't read people" or whatever speech made no sense - it really had nothing to do with the outcome of this challenge.

Oh well. The show is still really well done and addicting regardless. I'm not going anywhere. :)
 

Pochacco

asking dangerous questions
What a close competition tonight! Wow.
There really wasn't a girl that stood out as a bad 'apprentice' - so it was a toss up.

I'm ok with Pamela going - the way she was speaking to her teammates was pretty condescending.

PS:
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jenov4

Member
I think Pamela deserved to get the boot, she was too authoritative and wouldn't listen to anyone else.

BTW - I put this in spoiler tags out of courtesy for our west coast friends. But it might be too late anyways. :lol
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Pamela deserved to go.

1) She started off with an attitude. Ok, you're the project manager. But don't act like a fucking bitch about it. She swore like 4 times when speaking to her co-workers on the bus. She had this whole "holier than thou" thing going. Despite saying she's going to act like a bitch for 24 hours because she has to...she actually could've maintained some composure and come off more positive and not as hostile. She's clearly power hungry.

2) She didn't listen. It's like "whatever I say goes, your words mean nothing." She didn't listen at all. Not one bit. Stacy was right when she said 19.99 would be a more solid price point that some fucking gooky number like 27.84 (something close to that). And the way she asked Stacy about her opinion on a price...she was fucking heckling her.

3) She assigned people tasks...and ended up doing those tasks herself. She told someone else to work on pricing the item, yet she priced it herself. She told Stacy to do the legal work, and she snaps on her when she's doing her job to the fullest. Stacy did the right thing with being careful on the whole label issue. She didn't want to get fired over a pety instance, so she knew that she had to show George and Caroline that she knows the deal. Pamela was being idiodic when she told Stacy to just do it the business way -- the business way has your ass ending up in court over some insignificant crap that could've been easily avoided.

Pamela was too damn ballsy. So far, of all the women, Jennifer is clearly the smartest. She keeps her mouth shut and just lets the other ho-bags fight like the little bitches that they are.
 

MrCheez

President/Creative Director of Grumpyface Studios
jenov4 said:
I think Pamela deserved to get the boot, she was too authoritative and wouldn't listen to anyone else.

I agree actually. But Trump didn't even seem to realize this =/ The reasons he gave for booting her seemed kind of off. Hmm

alphasnake said:
So far, of all the women, Jennifer is clearly the smartest. She keeps her mouth shut and just lets the other ho-bags fight like the little bitches that they are.

:lol
 

Mrbob

Member
MrCheez said:
I agree actually. But Trump didn't even seem to realize this =/ The reasons he gave for booting her seemed kind of off. Hmm

It's a game, but Trump is also hiring someone for one of his corporate positions. How can you hire someone who can't accept any fault when making mistakes and always comes up with an excuse for everything? That is what Pamela did. She may be a decent leader, but she is so thickheaded she won't listen to anyone but herself, even when she is wrong. That doesn't lead to a good candidate to lead one of your businesses.
 
Mrbob said:
It's a game, but Trump is also hiring someone for one of his corporate positions. How can you hire someone who can't accept any fault when making mistakes and always comes up with an excuse for everything? That is what Pamela did. She may be a decent leader, but she is so thickheaded she won't listen to anyone but herself, even when she is wrong. That doesn't lead to a good candidate to lead one of your businesses.


You just described every single one of the women, with the possible exception of jennifer M.

DOOMED
 

myzhi

Banned
It's obviously another setup.

1) The men said they sold around 200 items, but Donald's b*tch got 50 from out of no where.

2) Women lost by only $10. That difference is pretty much the smallest amount possible. If women sold just 1 more, they would have won.
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
myzhi said:
It's obviously another setup.

1) The men said they sold around 200 items, but Donald's b*tch got 50 from out of no where.

2) Women lost by only $10. That difference is pretty much the smallest amount possible. If women sold just 1 more, they would have won.

Sales continued to go after the segment ended. It was an editing ploy, more than anything. The last shot was them saying they sold 192. They never showed us the final numbers until Donald came on.
 

VPhys

Member
The firing was correct. Stacie and the other girl weren't really at fault. True, the other girl couldn't speak but that wasn't that big a deal since they replaced her on time.


Even though Pamela SHOULD have been the person to be fired, Trump gave poor justification.
 

myzhi

Banned
AlphaSnake said:
Sales continued to go after the segment ended. It was an editing ploy, more than anything. The last shot was them saying they sold 192. They never showed us the final numbers until Donald came on.


Sorry, but I find it too convenient that sold just enough, 20% of the total after air time, to beat the women by the smallest margin possible. To much setup in this show for my taste. Probably, one reason why this show seems to be dropping in viewership.
 
"Even though Pamela SHOULD have been the person to be fired, Trump gave poor justification."


I concur. Perhaps we should all check out the extended boardroom footage on Saturday's showing before we comment further. *NBC plant* :D
 

Pochacco

asking dangerous questions
The thing that bugged me was that success was measured by total income - not total profits.
Ah well.
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
myzhi said:
Sorry, but I find it too convenient that sold just enough, 20% of the total after air time, to beat the women by the smallest margin possible. To much setup in this show for my taste. Probably, one reason why this show seems to be dropping in viewership.

I actually feel almost the same way. $10 is a little....eh.
 

Shouta

Member
Pamela really did deserve the boot tonight. She made some really bad decisions. Stacy was right on the original price point and Pamela didn't listen.

Trump's reasoning for firing Pamela was spot on. If you're too thick-headed to take input from your teammates as a Project Manager, then you deserve to get the boot. I know I would never hire anyone to manage my companies that wouldn't listen to the people working for them.

True, the other girl couldn't speak but that wasn't that big a deal since they replaced her on time.

Maria (or whatever that chick with the short black hair) could speak but she had movement issues like blinking and hand movements that were too hyper on screen despite her voice, projection, and pronunciation was excellent.
 

Mugen

Banned
Meh... she did deserve to get booted but all the remaining girls (save Jen M) are even MORE deserving for that.

Like shit... she was just asked to babysit the most ruthless bitches... what does Trump have her do instead? She got screwed over.
 
"Stacy was right on the original price point and Pamela didn't listen."

We must have been watching a different show. Pamela asked Stacy repeatedly what price she thought was good, and Stacy did not commit to any price, despite suggesting the 19.99 price point. If you can't be confident in your suggestions, why should the PM take them seriously?
 

Shouta

Member
We must have been watching a different show. Pamela asked Stacy repeatedly what price she thought was good, and Stacy did not commit to any price, despite suggesting the 19.99 price point. If you can't be confident in your suggestions, why should the PM take them seriously?

Pamela was hounding Stacy real bad. By jumping on someone before allowing them to finish their thought, you're going to interrupt them mentally. It's a mental ploy people use to psych a person into agreeing with them. Without letting her brain run through the thought she was having, she couldn't reason out the logic behind the choice she made which makes it harder to be confident in what she said. It's like questioning someone's decisions subtley so you break their confidence in the decision they made and move in with something else. It's fairly common practice in sales. Hell, I've used and have had it used on me in the past. Pamela continued to claw Stacy after the 19.99 price suggestion and she couldn't get to the reasoning for it (as I recall, Pamela jumped on Stacy about something business and legal in her decision making or something like that).

Edit: Even if Stacy wasn't confident in her decision. Pamela didn't take the time to even listen to what she said. That still is a big no-no if you ask me =P.
 
What I don't get is if the competition was based on total sales, not profit margin, why not sell something like a laptop? If total sales was like $17k, then all you would need to do is sell like 10 laptops.
 

MrCheez

President/Creative Director of Grumpyface Studios
Holy crap, Carrolyn was just on Conan... and she was super cheerful and nice. O_O

I AM SO CONFUSED
 

miyuru

Member
It's too bad Pamela got fired. Well, I guess she would've been earlier had she not been on the guys' team all this time.

On that note, Raj fucking rocks. I always wondered why there were never really brown people on reality tv (not just immigrants, but Indian-Americans, etc.).

:p

I must sound like a racist or something!

*runs*
 

mashoutposse

Ante Up
Even though she is by far the one that I hate the most, I can't front, Stacy's a beast in the boardroom.

The whole of Apex needs to be fired (save Jen). It would be funny if Mosaic sweeps the rest of the challenges...
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
mashoutposse said:
Even though she is by far the one that I hate the most, I can't front, Stacy's a beast in the boardroom.

The whole of Apex needs to be fired (save Jen). It would be funny if Mosaic sweeps the rest of the challenges...

A sweep can't happen. Eventually Trump will break the teams apart and the game show will become far more even. And man...finding out that boardroom meets take up to 5 hours is insane. It's completely changed my perspective on the show.
 

MrCheez

President/Creative Director of Grumpyface Studios
They should release one full boardroom session for download or on DVD or something. :)

Sure it'd probably be boring at 5 hours long, but it would be interested to see what the hell they talk about for so long.
 

Memles

Member
I'm incredibly pissed that this is my only weekend hoome between now and Christmas, because watching the Boardroom Edition of this week's episode of the Apprentice (I've been downloading torrents, with no cable at University) I actually understand Trump's decision.

Now, I do not agree that Pamela was the weakest part of the team; Sandy has been the most useless overall and blew the last task. If anything, she should have pulled a "John K." from Survivor. She should have spoken with the group on what went wrong in the last task.

Sandy, we learned, was not an issue in this task...for her team. She however, to quote George "Drove QVC crazy" micromanaging the placement of apples on the stage. the stage was basically decorated already, her work was menial at best. In the boardroom, Pamela was blamed for not giving her enough to do.

The team actually agreed; she was told to do set design and she went ahead and did it as asked. She went too far. She was the set designer from hell.

But Pamela did not give her another job. The full boardroom painted a very different picture, where Ivana felt overworked, and Sandy felt underworked. Stacey felt like what she was doing wasn't being appreciate, and Maria felt that her inadequacy was the fault of Pamela's decision to choose her.

In the end, when Pamela had to give a reason for Mario and Stacy to be in the boardroom in the end, her reason for Stacy was "She's a nuisance" and for Maria it was "She was wacky on camera". In the end, however, everyone thought she priced it too high, it lost them the task, she was gone.

Also...seeing Anna Kournikova's GLEE in nailing Raj with a tennis ball was absolutely hysterical. McEnroe is supposed to be the loud boisterous one and SHE was the one who was cracking me up. Her absolute joy in embarassing him was a sight to see.

The extended Boardroom really makes the choice Trump makes the right one; maybe not on the whole, but you can understand his justifications further. Disappointed I won't be able to watch it every week.
 
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