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April 2012 NPD Sales Results [Up3: Best selling game sold less than 236K, Kid Icarus]
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Rebel Leader
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Nope =(
timetokill
Banned
I think Capcom admitted it at one point. And some others like EA have said they "missed the boat" but aren't really planning to do anything to rectify it.
Freezie KO
Banned
A damn shame indeed
New Playstation Allstars Bros Vita?
Unless NoA decides to release some numbers...lol.
Rebel Leader
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Operation MassMail?
I think the Wii should have come out sooner than it did. Publishers started seeing the dollar signs with all of the post release money they could make on Xbox 360. PS3 became a convenient port destination, as did PC in a lot of cases.
I meant as in they should switch places, I love TW2 mang D:
obligatory lol NOA
specialguy
Banned
Are you serious? Hardcore games didn't sell on the Wii, period. In fact nothing much did, but Nintendo games a few faddish titles that unpredictably caught on.
People blame everybody but themselves. If the Wii market is so lucrative, you start a company and go rake in all that cash developing for it and see how far you get.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Serious question:
Is there hard evidence that Kinect was really a sustained driving force of sales for Xbox360 in the second half of the generation?
I mean for the Wii, the 'motion' titles dominated the charts for months and months and months. Wii play, Wii sports resort, Wii fit, just dance, etc.
I always felt that 360 simply hit its stride with an amazing library and constant stream of releases.
Sure, there is evidence that kinect hardware bundles sell better than ones without, but if you look at the top sellers, it is usually core titles, not kinect ones.
I think xbox did more to sell kinect than kinect did to sell xbox.
Is there hard evidence that Kinect was really a sustained driving force of sales for Xbox360 in the second half of the generation?
I mean for the Wii, the 'motion' titles dominated the charts for months and months and months. Wii play, Wii sports resort, Wii fit, just dance, etc.
I always felt that 360 simply hit its stride with an amazing library and constant stream of releases.
Sure, there is evidence that kinect hardware bundles sell better than ones without, but if you look at the top sellers, it is usually core titles, not kinect ones.
I think xbox did more to sell kinect than kinect did to sell xbox.
Rebel Leader
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Hiro_Kunimi_80
Member
I think Kinect helped for a while, but I think the big elephant in the room everyone ignores is COD. That absolutely was and is still a system seller for the HD twins.
Feels wrong on so many levels.
How were sales of PS2, Xbox and GCN a year before the current gen came out? I'm not so sure that a new bunch of consoles would change things too much.
Little Green Yoda
Member
How early are you talking? Wasn't a big part of the problem the large numbers of devs/pubs betting on the PS3 (with the 360 benefiting from the need for multiplat releases)?
Great news for Sony. Well deserved success.
Speaking of Kinect does anyone have a breakdown of software sales for the device because one thing that disturbs me about Kinect is software sales.
I think Nintendo is in a good position to release WiiU soon. If Nintendo successfully markets the unique hook(tablet and w/e they reveal at E3) they have , I think they hope to catch more people than PS4/720(presumably a repeat with shinier graphics).
I also don't think all developers are going to ignore a whole platform just because of UE4. Choosing the route of longer development times, higher development costs, and less return just for prettier graphics sounds incredibly stupid. Unless of course they WANT to wipe themselves out completely.
I also don't think all developers are going to ignore a whole platform just because of UE4. Choosing the route of longer development times, higher development costs, and less return just for prettier graphics sounds incredibly stupid. Unless of course they WANT to wipe themselves out completely.
Rebel Leader
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EDIT: nvm
Slim started the rise.
Kinect bundles were almost the only thing in stock for much of early 2011, which pushed up the % of Kinect console sales a good bit.
I thought I read that standalone Kinect sales have really gone down. How are accessory $'s doing YOY?
Kinect definitely helped. Combined with Slim, it was a mighty force in 2011. I don't personally think that Kinect was the main driving force last year, but it certainly helped a good bit.
Randolph Freelander
Member
PlayStation Vita: still. gaining. acceptance.
I think it has a lot to do with what goes on with the other consoles. If they both take a leap forward, PS+Xbox+PC will win out again. If it is two consoles versus one console and the PC market, there could be a split in favor of the two lower power consoles. One console and a piracy hole are not going to cover costs in a few years.
outunderthestars
Banned
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Please, give me a source for this "core gamer" data you speak of.
Freezie KO
Banned
Early sales of games like CoD 3, RE4, Umbrella Chronicles, and even Red Steel were promising. Nothing to write home about, but a good start on a burgeoning platform. And then... nothing else came to capture that audience.
Revisionist history is a pastime on GAF.
Really? At least nothing on 3DS? Surely 3ds numbers can't be 'that' bad.
Wasn't there a GAF user who gave some ranges for HW numbers last month?
Count Dookkake
Member
From hype to Skype.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I still have hope for a massive E3.I don't know if it's been discussed yet, but here is what's probably going on with the NPD/GameStop/Xenoblade situation...
Short version: Retailer-specific information is verboten. It was excluded from the public release. It is almost certainly included in data that subscribers get.
Longer version: One thing that the NPD Group tries to avoid is giving out any retailer-specific information. I believe that this may be part of their agreement with the retailers with which they have data-sharing deals. This protects retailers from knowing too much about each other, if I understand correctly.
I've been told that this is why Wal-mart was always a sore spot. They are 25% of the market, so they felt that the NPD Group's reports were giving away information about their business. (Not sure how that's going to be different now. They still aren't integrating any data from their agreement with Wal-mart yet.)
Since Xenoblade was a retailer exclusive, its sales would give away information about a specific retailer, so it can't be included in the public report. It is almost certainly in the subscriber data.
Short version: Retailer-specific information is verboten. It was excluded from the public release. It is almost certainly included in data that subscribers get.
Longer version: One thing that the NPD Group tries to avoid is giving out any retailer-specific information. I believe that this may be part of their agreement with the retailers with which they have data-sharing deals. This protects retailers from knowing too much about each other, if I understand correctly.
I've been told that this is why Wal-mart was always a sore spot. They are 25% of the market, so they felt that the NPD Group's reports were giving away information about their business. (Not sure how that's going to be different now. They still aren't integrating any data from their agreement with Wal-mart yet.)
Since Xenoblade was a retailer exclusive, its sales would give away information about a specific retailer, so it can't be included in the public report. It is almost certainly in the subscriber data.
outunderthestars
Banned
Freezie KO
Banned
I laughed.
boiled goose
good with gravy
There is still hope for xenoblade.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Not really as the only place to get good online throgh consoles is by Sony or MS. As long as Nintendo keeps dropping the ball on online, they have nothing to worry about.