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April Wrasslin' |OT 2| I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU!

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Sir_Crocodile

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Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
They'll have actual local talent and local shows for other countries. Even TNA has been trying this in India for years, because US TV ratings won't mean shit soon. (Cable TV is dying... I think some people in here haven't noticed.)

Wrestlemania was the first WM streamed live as it happened with Japanese commentary in Japan. We're getting there! Excited for NXT China, India, and UK.
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They need TV to get new people watching and where they get a large part of their revenue. It's the most important part of their product.
 
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie

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Sir_Crocodile said:
They need TV to get new people watching and where they get a large part of their revenue. It's the most important part of their product.
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They're not looking for US growth. We're pretty tapped. You either know of and like wrestling or you don't. Of course they'll keep trying, but global expansion is always the next step in growing a business after national saturation.
 
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Beefy

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Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
They'll have actual local talent and local shows for other countries. Even TNA has been trying this in India for years, because US TV ratings won't mean shit soon. (Cable TV is dying... I think some people in here haven't noticed.)

Wrestlemania was the first WM streamed live as it happened with Japanese commentary in Japan. We're getting there! Excited for NXT China, India, and UK.
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Cable TV in UK is still growing sadly.
 
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie

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OwensIsNow said:
Stop falling for the Liu Kang meme you fucking marks.
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There's no meme, I just think it's fun that this place runs on a single collective opinion and attitude (Bryan Alvarez's, basically). I'm here because wrestling fans exist that aren't the same people you guys have been talking to for years about the same cynical stuff. I'm excited about the global expansion more than anything else, because Raw and Vince have always sucked.
 
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Sir_Crocodile

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Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
They're not looking for US growth. We're pretty tapped. You either know of and like wrestling or you don't.
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That's absolutely wrong. The wwf product is stale, so a lot of people who used to watch no longer do.

Instead of trying to fix the root of the issue (their beyond incompetent booking), they've opted to try to expand in other markets. Which is fine, and something they should be doing, but it doesn't change the fact it's less important then shoring up their base.
 
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somedevil

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Sir_Crocodile said:
They need TV to get new people watching and where they get a large part of their revenue. It's the most important part of their product.
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A tv deal is important but TV watching is going down for the younger age groups:

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12-24 age group watch like 15 hours per week.
 
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Anth0ny

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Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
They'll have actual local talent and local shows for other countries. Even TNA has been trying this in India for years, because US TV ratings won't mean shit soon. (Cable TV is dying... I think some people in here haven't noticed.)

Wrestlemania was the first WM streamed live as it happened with Japanese commentary in Japan. We're getting there! Excited for NXT China, India, and UK.
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I'm sure that'll draw!

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Liu Kang Baking A Pie

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Sir_Crocodile said:
That's absolutely wrong. The wwf product is stale, so a lot of people who used to watch no longer do.

Instead of trying to fix the root of the issue (their beyond incompetent booking), they've opted to try to expand in other markets. Which is fine, and something they should be doing, but it doesn't change the fact it's less important then shoring up their base.
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Sources?
 
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RecRoulette

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Saw Miz and Finn in the same picture and thought they were having a match. That's was a scary moment.

(Give us a fake documentary where Miz is playing with legos)
 
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie

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Sir_Crocodile said:
Ratings in 1999 - when they actually had competition - vs ratings now?

Didn't think something so obvious needed a source
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Man, I was afraid of this, because it seems like WWE talk always revolves around comparing now to fucking decades ago. Why don't we compare to Memphis, which got the highest ratings in Memphis of anything on TV ever at the time? If anyone ever talked about that, I'd understand the arguments more, but as it is, it's just a jejune comparison to people's only frame of reference in their own lifetime.

What accounts for 1997 TV viewing statistics and habits vs 2017 habits, where everyone is way more into their phone? I barely had working Internet in 1997. How do we measure the distribution of fans from one 2-hour show on Mondays to their entire weekly lineup now? That's why I asked for sources, not just your guessing backed up with "it's obvious."
 
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excelsiorlef

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Attitude Era was carried on the backs of 3 people: Austin, Rock, McMahon
NWO: Hogan, Hall Nash
Rock n Roll era: Hogan, Warrior, Savage


No superstar not even John Cena comes even close to that mainstream power of Rock or Hogan or Austin.

Amazing periods of wrestling success depends on these once in every second generation stars...
 
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Zach

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Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Alvarez hates wrestling, and thus so do all of you. :(
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This doesn't make sense.

And I'm not even sure I know who Alvarez is. I think maybe I've heard him on a podcast with Ross or Austin?

But that doesn't even matter. Because opinions are not the same. Even if there is an unsavory, internet-y mindset that some users have that you can't stand. There are still outliers. Yet you lump everyone together in your weird lash-outs. It's strange. You're strange. Stop letting stupid things bother you.
 
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Beefy

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excelsiorlef said:
Attitude Era was carried on the backs of 3 people: Austin, Rock, McMahon
NWO: Hogan, Hall Nash
Rock n Roll era: Hogan, Warrior, Savage


No superstar not even John Cena comes even close to that mainstream power of Rock or Hogan or Austin.

Amazing periods of wrestling success depends on these once in every second generation stars...
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Punk could have got close
 
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Tall4Life

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excelsiorlef said:
Attitude Era was carried on the backs of 3 people: Austin, Rock, McMahon
NWO: Hogan, Hall Nash
Rock n Roll era: Hogan, Warrior, Savage


No superstar not even John Cena comes even close to that mainstream power of Rock or Hogan or Austin.

Amazing periods of wrestling success depends on these once in every second generation stars...
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john cena is a meme literally everywhere
 
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Bluekaveli

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Sir_Crocodile said:
That's absolutely wrong. The wwf product is stale, so a lot of people who used to watch no longer do.

Instead of trying to fix the root of the issue (their beyond incompetent booking), they've opted to try to expand in other markets. Which is fine, and something they should be doing, but it doesn't change the fact it's less important then shoring up their base.
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Of course wwf is stale, animals are boring.
 
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