ElRenoRaven
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How could you not watch. It's got Miz and it's got Balor right where they both belong.
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April Wrasslin' |OT 2| I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU!
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How could you not watch. It's got Miz and it's got Balor right where they both belong.
Miz is great
SallyIsNow
Banned
Miz should be WWE champ on Smackdown
How do you type so well with Owen's hand up your ass muppet?
Bluekaveli
Member
That should be on the main card. Ko and Jericho should be pre show
ElRenoRaven
Member
Professor Beef
Banned
Fave Five WrestlingGaffers
Plywood
Net_Wrecker
excelsior
Nocturnowl
Bootaaay
Yeah the first two are part-timers but they're still dabest.
*shakes all of their hands*
*puts all of them over*
Plywood
Net_Wrecker
excelsior
Nocturnowl
Bootaaay
Yeah the first two are part-timers but they're still dabest.
*shakes all of their hands*
*puts all of them over*
I got on the 'they've ruined Brawn' train pretty early so I'm ready but who knows, maybe we'll get a pleasant surprise.
Truth is, I hope it does (I mean it will obviously like you said but I mean between the two)
I really do not want to see Finn vs Owens or Joe again for a while and Miz I think could have great matches with Finn
ElRenoRaven
Member
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Fav five
Beefy
Owens
Sibersk
DM
RBH
Beefy
Owens
Sibersk
DM
RBH
Lowkey, I'm most looking forward to the House of Horrors match. Really feel like it's going to be "so bad it's good" when all's said and done.
Like they'd get any heat from going over you.
Like they'd get any heat from going over you.
Professor Beef
Banned
If the part-timers weren't there you'd be on my Fave Five.
YOU'D BE SINGING A DIFFERENT TUNE IF I INCLUDED YOU, FRIEND
Sweeney Tom
Banned
SallyIsNow
Banned
I did it!
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
Calling Net_Wrecker a part-timer is generous.
I miss him.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Maybe I never left. . .
Stro?
THE ONLY FAVE FIVE I NEED TO BE IN IS "FIVE POSTERS BETTER THAN BEEF," BUDDY
BewareTheBatsie
Member
I like everyone!
Professor Beef
Banned
JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE 5 MIRRORS IN YOUR HOUSE DOESN'T MAKE THEM REAL PEOPLE, PAL
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Fave Five:
Data West
Zach
British Monsoon/Bootaay
Sweeney Tom
Sephzilla
love all you dudes though
Data West
Zach
British Monsoon/Bootaay
Sweeney Tom
Sephzilla
love all you dudes though
ElRenoRaven
Member
No but their voices do.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
For a chokeslam?
RecRoulette
Member
You all are putting each other over so hard it's like an episode of Lucha Underground in here.
BronsonLee
Member
I'm taking notes
You could call it that...
excelsiorlef
Member
Mauro is getting the best revenge
http://fightnetwork.com/law/april-30-news-update-house-of-horrors-tonight-at-payback/
http://fightnetwork.com/law/april-30-news-update-house-of-horrors-tonight-at-payback/
BronsonLee
Member
It was always a huge get to nab Mauro for one show, much less have him be there weekly for Smackdown
JBL's been there forever and ever, but if it's a real thing between them, they could just bounce JBL to Raw and call it a day
RecRoulette
Member
Easily the best heavyweight fight in over 10 years. Plus being on cable helped a lot. Good for Mauro, loved his call of the fight.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Not that it matters now since he finally got got but weird including and dissing of Bryan Alvarez into this and really insulting all of us with issues and frustrations with this company by invoking the guy who was at one time a pro-wrassler as someone who hates wrestling because WWE frustrates the shit out of him.
Could you imagine if, let's go with The Walking Dead which I think despite some floundering is still the highest rated shows on all of television if say, every episode a few seasons in had a moment where one of the characters/cast members basically go out of their way to actively remind you that what you're watching isn't real and pull you out of any sort of immersion you might've had? Maybe even shouting out "shit's fake", could you imagine if TWD was on three hours a night? Or maybe if the people in charge of the show had as much contempt for their audience as Vince and his cronies have for their core audience? Not that TWD is good anymore or some would probably argue ever was (I stopped watching a few seasons ago) but they still have a goal to draw in their audience into the world instead of actively pushing them away.
The "WWE network" argument, yeah the network which before it launched their goal was two to three million paid subscribers DOMESTIC but here we are three years since launch and despite their constant desperation to get people to sign up and despite enticing people with all those free months and the expansion they STILL haven't managed to reach two million paid subs and the vast majority of subscribers are in the U.S. You know what would probably aid that? A better product on TV to at least put effort into enticing some of the people who left but still could be brought back instead of what seems to be intentional attempts at pushing the most loyal (and possibly masochistic) away but they're attaining record profits so despite it could be much higher, "who cares"? How's your territory doing?
"WWE can use their own network as a bargaining chip to get better TV deals" which I haven't seen a lot of anymore thankfully, would so be Vince logic and I won't be surprised if it gets brought up next year.
I like WWE touting (hey, remember that great investment?) their social media number bullshit as if it means anything 37 million Facebook likes on their main page, 9 million Twitter followers and nearly 16 million Youtube channel subs and whatever that number is when they add all the social media followers, likes, subs, ect from every single related account from talents to whatever else to be the carnies they are to make it look more impressive like they use to do with their TV ratings in doubling or now tripling or more up along with inactive or outright fake accounts and how many people actually, actively watch their product. And they still can't get two million people to pay $10 a month at any one time. Expanding the network into China and India isn't going to do shit wrestling... Sports Entertainment is a complete non-entity in China and I can't imagine that changing no matter how much they try and pander to the market and unless they start doing what damn near every other entertainment industry does in scaling their prices to fit into other markets they ain't going to do shit in India (especially since it seems most of the important stuff is on TV for free there) or the rest of Asia outside Japan either.
Oh there's South America too, especially Brazil with its 200M+ population, funny how that seems to get ignored, I know about the few NXT signings but that's a possibly easier market to crack but they don't seem at all interested even though it's a crowd that would probably buy into what they're selling easier though again, region appropriate pricing should probably be a thing.
I said it a while ago but WWE and Vince are so lucky that their shareholders are largely ignorant on their product WWE produces because if they weren't the stock would be back in the single digits and wouldn't break it with how inept they seem to be in. Wall Street and Bonnie Hammer (USA network boss) are a bunch of money marks.
I regret going back and typing this after what was only intended to be the replies below, fuck now I have a headache.
You know, I imagine there was a time when they had someone who had a move/spot and it looked like utter shit that they'd be pulled aside by an agent or someone and be told "that looks terrible either work on doing it better or stop using it".
Could you imagine if, let's go with The Walking Dead which I think despite some floundering is still the highest rated shows on all of television if say, every episode a few seasons in had a moment where one of the characters/cast members basically go out of their way to actively remind you that what you're watching isn't real and pull you out of any sort of immersion you might've had? Maybe even shouting out "shit's fake", could you imagine if TWD was on three hours a night? Or maybe if the people in charge of the show had as much contempt for their audience as Vince and his cronies have for their core audience? Not that TWD is good anymore or some would probably argue ever was (I stopped watching a few seasons ago) but they still have a goal to draw in their audience into the world instead of actively pushing them away.
The "WWE network" argument, yeah the network which before it launched their goal was two to three million paid subscribers DOMESTIC but here we are three years since launch and despite their constant desperation to get people to sign up and despite enticing people with all those free months and the expansion they STILL haven't managed to reach two million paid subs and the vast majority of subscribers are in the U.S. You know what would probably aid that? A better product on TV to at least put effort into enticing some of the people who left but still could be brought back instead of what seems to be intentional attempts at pushing the most loyal (and possibly masochistic) away but they're attaining record profits so despite it could be much higher, "who cares"? How's your territory doing?
"WWE can use their own network as a bargaining chip to get better TV deals" which I haven't seen a lot of anymore thankfully, would so be Vince logic and I won't be surprised if it gets brought up next year.
I like WWE touting (hey, remember that great investment?) their social media number bullshit as if it means anything 37 million Facebook likes on their main page, 9 million Twitter followers and nearly 16 million Youtube channel subs and whatever that number is when they add all the social media followers, likes, subs, ect from every single related account from talents to whatever else to be the carnies they are to make it look more impressive like they use to do with their TV ratings in doubling or now tripling or more up along with inactive or outright fake accounts and how many people actually, actively watch their product. And they still can't get two million people to pay $10 a month at any one time. Expanding the network into China and India isn't going to do shit wrestling... Sports Entertainment is a complete non-entity in China and I can't imagine that changing no matter how much they try and pander to the market and unless they start doing what damn near every other entertainment industry does in scaling their prices to fit into other markets they ain't going to do shit in India (especially since it seems most of the important stuff is on TV for free there) or the rest of Asia outside Japan either.
Oh there's South America too, especially Brazil with its 200M+ population, funny how that seems to get ignored, I know about the few NXT signings but that's a possibly easier market to crack but they don't seem at all interested even though it's a crowd that would probably buy into what they're selling easier though again, region appropriate pricing should probably be a thing.
I said it a while ago but WWE and Vince are so lucky that their shareholders are largely ignorant on their product WWE produces because if they weren't the stock would be back in the single digits and wouldn't break it with how inept they seem to be in. Wall Street and Bonnie Hammer (USA network boss) are a bunch of money marks.
I regret going back and typing this after what was only intended to be the replies below, fuck now I have a headache.
Fox has had its issues lately, especially with bad scheduling decisions as for CBS, when they're airing new programming no USA does not and unlike WWE their shows generally get generous boosts from DVR viewership. You can't make a direct 1:1 comparison to broadcast and cable ratings numbers because they're factored differently which is why they're separated. Viewership, sure but not ratings points.
Even worse than like, almost all of Naomi's signature offense?
You know, I imagine there was a time when they had someone who had a move/spot and it looked like utter shit that they'd be pulled aside by an agent or someone and be told "that looks terrible either work on doing it better or stop using it".
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Phoenix I read and loved your post
Just thought I should say so because that was a lot of effort and shouldn't go unnoticed
Just thought I should say so because that was a lot of effort and shouldn't go unnoticed
Professor Beef
Banned
If I was wrestling someone and they tried to pull that Bayley spin on me, that might be the one time I shoot on them.
RecRoulette
Member
Still not enough to put him in your top 5 though...
Nocturnowl
Member
BewareTheBatsie
Member
I still can't believe that the apparent explanation for why Bray vs Orton isn't for the belt is because Jinder fucking Mahal has stolen the belt.
Also at house shows is Randy showing up with the belt or not to keep the story going?
Edit: Nocturnowl! The best Kane fan out there.
Also at house shows is Randy showing up with the belt or not to keep the story going?
Edit: Nocturnowl! The best Kane fan out there.
RecRoulette
Member
Renee looking like Beetlejuice out here.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Damn it. I'm gonna have double duty. One eye on WWE and other on WrestleCircus. Yea good night for wrestling.