Are there any people here who are Freemasons?

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Agent Icebeezy

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This guy at work is bugging me about this shit to join. Saying shit like, you are open-minded, you'll love this, it'll make you a better man, yada, yada, yada. Anyways, the only readings I've ever seen on them are of the cultist, secretive sort. Basically, not a group to be trusted, but they protect their own.

Just curious if anyone has any personal knowledge to share about this subject, thanks
 
Agent Icebeezy said:
This guy at work is bugging me about this shit to join. Saying shit like, you are open-minded, you'll love this, it'll make you a better man, yada, yada, yada. Anyways, the only readings I've ever seen on them are of the cultist, secretive sort. Basically, not a group to be trusted, but they protect their own.

Just curious if anyone has any personal knowledge to share about this subject, thanks
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Not to be trusted? :lol

My friend's dad is a freemason and he doesn't talk much about it either. But he's a good guy. I think they do charity work.
 
Mr. Wiggin:
Oh sod the abattoir, that's not important.

(He dashes forward and kneels in front of them)

But if any of you could put in a word for me I'd love to be a mason. Masonry opens doors. I'd be very quiet, I was a bit on edge just now but if I were a mason I'd sit at the back and not get in anyone's way.

Client 1:
(politely) Thank you.

Mr. Wiggin:
...I've got a second-hand apron.

Client 2:
Thank you.

(Mr. Wiggin hurries to the door but stops...)

Mr. Wiggin:
I nearly got in at Hendon.

Client 1:
Thank you.
 
WHO CONTACTED YOU!?!??! *ahem* i mean, *shifts eyes nerviously* there is nothing to fear. if you meet the boss, shake her hand. *GASP* i've said too much!!!
 
Outside of my father's stupid random rants about how he thinks the Klan funds Masonic lodges or some shit, and a visit to the biggest temple in Indy (Scottish Rite Cathedral) showing me that there seems to be some kind of Good Ol' Boys Club kinda thing of sorts going down, I know absolutely nothing about Masons. There's a ton of lodges around here though, and mostly cater to older blacks from what I've seen
 
Beyond how the mormons stole much of their temple ceremony and secret handshakes from them, I don't know a whole lot about the freemasons beyond the basics.
 
belgurdo said:
Outside of my father's stupid random rants about how he thinks the Klan funds Masonic lodges or some shit, and a visit to the biggest temple in Indy (Scottish Rite Cathedral) showing me that there seems to be some kind of Good Ol' Boys Club kinda thing of sorts going down, I know absolutely nothing about Masons. There's a ton of lodges around here though, and mostly cater to older blacks from what I've seen
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I live in Indiana as well, Merrillville to be exact. I know exactly what building you are talking about, back to the topic. I've read this today

Yeah. Basically its like a band of masons all over the world that in jist plan on ruling the world (which is going on now to a significant extent) through their connections and their understandinf of life, depending on how far you go in your knowledge of the 33 degrees of wisdom, you know the real truths to life and so forth as a full-fledged Mason. I cant recall the name of the steps right now. But, like every president the United States we have ever had were Masons. Meaning they had some level of the 33 degrees of the circle of knowledge. They never let you know really what that is, but basically one thing I understand is that they know that the REAL son of God is the actual SUN. In the sky. They basically see that as the single greatest physical creation that serves every aspect of life. Which really makes sense when you think about it. A lot of their wisdom comes from the understanding of ancient Egypt, and supposedly there were some extra-terrestrial beings that assisted the ancient Eqyptians in the building of the pyramids and so forth.

It might sound like some weird shit, but its realer than you'd imagine. Thats why the pyramid symbol is on the American dollar bill. And the symbol of the freemasons is a sun, with something wrapped around it that I cant think of at this moment. But that masonry is real deep . When the atlantic slave trade began, the main thing the European slave traders demanded, was that the African slaves, and even the White Americans for that matter, but everybody within distance of the African slaves were to have absolutely NO knowledge of the Islam practices and the indigenuos religions, that the Africans had for centuries previous up until then. Even though the founding fathers of the Declaration of Independence were all full fledged freemasons of Moslem shriners. And the thinking is, that they had the real knowledge of life and human existence, and they knew that they wouldnt be able to succesfully enslave the Africans, if they worshipped God and God only, and had any knowledge of who they were previous to enslavement. Because many of those same West and central African muslims and masons were conquering Europeans for a good number of centuries preceeding that. And all of it ties back into the masonry.


I know the president shit is true, but the rest. I'm not sure. Anybody else got info
 
Agent Icebeezy said:
This guy at work is bugging me about this shit to join. Saying shit like, you are open-minded, you'll love this, it'll make you a better man, yada, yada, yada. Anyways, the only readings I've ever seen on them are of the cultist, secretive sort. Basically, not a group to be trusted, but they protect their own.

Just curious if anyone has any personal knowledge to share about this subject, thanks
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There a secretive club that control everything!

Or really just a whole bunch of old people that do charity work that may have connections to help you get jobs and stuff.
 
Agent Icebeezy said:
This guy at work is bugging me about this shit to join. Saying shit like, you are open-minded, you'll love this, it'll make you a better man, yada, yada, yada. Anyways, the only readings I've ever seen on them are of the cultist, secretive sort. Basically, not a group to be trusted, but they protect their own.

Just curious if anyone has any personal knowledge to share about this subject, thanks
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Depends on who is asking. First off any Mason is not going to ASK someone to join. If you want in you have to find a Mason. Mason's dont beg, they don't need to. Will it make you better? Depends, as with all things what you put into it is what you get out of it, you can only become a better man if you wanted to be a better man. The Freemasons are the most non-secret secret group in the world. As far as the Mason's being a cult I would disagree the closer you get to the top the more secertive it gets but, nothing nearing cult status, I think that goes back to the days when the Freemasons, Catholic Church, and Knights Templar were fighting for control of the money.
 
Or really just a whole bunch of old people that do charity work that may have connections to help you get jobs and stuff.
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Winner. They're basically a frat for postcollegate adults.
 
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My uncle is one. He really got to know a few when his wife (technically my aunt I know but no one likes her) was in the hospital for an eye transplant, and he liked the charity and social stuff they do. He's a very outgoing guy so for him to join a fraternal organization like that and do some charity stuff and have some brews with some like minded guys is win-win.

And he says they *do* often refer to themselves as Stonecutters. :lol If you ask him what the meetings are like he mentions the fact that monkey's reenact the civil war once a week.
 
I was in a frat, and most panhellenic frats are founded by masons. So as a result, there is a lot of ritual involved. Secret handshakes and passwords, druid robes with pointy hats, pledges and other associated bullshit. One of my pledge brothers went ahead and became a freemason afterwards, and it's just more of the same.

If you enjoy paying dues to be friends with people who you probably don't like outside of drinking...then go nuts. Having to jump through hoops and memorize lots of worthless masonic facts and shit like that ain't my bag. If I'd known the full requirements for my frat, I wouldn't have pledged. Regular meetings were bad enough. Ritual meetings just add a whole lot of creepy fluff to the mess. PEACE.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and the secrecy is so lame. Note, I'm not too big on secrets, which is why I don't mind saying all that stuff about frats. Rituals are supposed to be a big secret, but I think people should know ahead of time.
 
Agent Icebeezy said:
This guy at work is bugging me about this shit to join. Saying shit like, you are open-minded, you'll love this, it'll make you a better man, yada, yada, yada. Anyways, the only readings I've ever seen on them are of the cultist, secretive sort. Basically, not a group to be trusted, but they protect their own.

Just curious if anyone has any personal knowledge to share about this subject, thanks
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if there are masons here, they probably wouldn't admit to it in public, seriously.
 
As I understand, the Freemasons is a mere shadow of its former self, even when compared to 50 years ago. Membership has declined dramatically, and while they still hold on to occult-based secretive rituals, they're basically harmless. Yeah, a frat for adults, minus the drinking usually. *Snore* Think "the Lions" or the "Rotary Club" with less community service.
 
mrroboto said:
if there are masons here, they probably wouldn't admit to it in public, seriously.
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Being a mason by itself means nothing. There are lots. The secrets are what they'll keep from you. Even now, I don't know quite what my friend did in his freemason meetings. But at the same time, I couldn't give a shit. Probably just circle jerks. :lol PEACE.
 
Pimpwerx said:
Being a mason by itself means nothing. There are lots. The secrets are what they'll keep from you. Even now, I don't know quite what my friend did in his freemason meetings. But at the same time, I couldn't give a shit. Probably just circle jerks. :lol PEACE.
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interesting, so mason is just a code word for man yogurt?
 
Hitokage said:
Winner. They're basically a frat for postcollegate adults.
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That have "seerers and revalators". They are far from just a bunch of guys hanging out and doing charity work.
Anyone that actually knows what is going on with the Freemasons would never tell you.
 
Tommie Hu$tle said:
Depends on who is asking. First off any Mason is not going to ASK someone to join. If you want in you have to find a Mason.
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Not true, actually. Generally speaking, they select their members, you don't apply.
 
Musashi Wins! said:
Not true, actually. Generally speaking, they select their members, you don't apply.
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This much is true, however they select from willing applicants. The don't ask beg people to join and actually you do apply.
 
Tommie Hu$tle said:
This much is true, however they select from willing applicants. The don't ask beg people to join and actually you do apply.
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Don't you actually apply after being approached? I'm speaking from second hand experience from a few relatives...but others have told me the same. You aren't necessarily in after asking, but you have to be asked to get in. It's a bit of a tangle, but maybe I'm just explaining how it was done here rather than universally.
 
There's a building in midtown Manhattan that a buddy and myself used to be obsessed with. He even thought about joining the group, if only to infiltrate the inner sanctum, but got chicken shit when he became too wary of the possibility of being "brainwashed".
 
Truelize said:
That have "seerers and revalators". They are far from just a bunch of guys hanging out and doing charity work.
Anyone that actually knows what is going on with the Freemasons would never tell you.
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Frats do all sorts of stupid secretive bullshit, of course. I just don't buy all the conspiracy stuff.

Oh, and what other group has "seers and revelators", and takes itself FAR more seriously... ;)
 
Musashi Wins! said:
Don't you actually apply after being approached? I'm speaking from second hand experience from a few relatives...but others have told me the same. You aren't necessarily in after asking, but you have to be asked to get in. It's a bit of a tangle, but maybe I'm just explaining how it was done here rather than universally.
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It depends you can ask to get in but, you need someone to vouch for you. Asking to get in is not enough and you are correct in that you need a sponser and the you do some other things. It's not a straightforward event (well it is and it isn't). I laugh at people that think about the brainwashing or a cult just cross reference all that with the Catholic Church's desire for power and influence in the Middle ages to see how that all worked out.
 
Actually I heard the freemasons are all divided into freemason groups for different professions, so u basically get a freemason club of lawyers or doctors, builders etc. they don’t really talk in-between groups that much but you can get free legal advice or discounts etc from other freemasons.
 
Hitokage said:
Oh, and what other group has "seers and revelators", and takes itself FAR more seriously... ;)
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:lol Yeah that comment was totally for you. :lol

I have a strong belief in all the conspiracy theorys though. Strong belief.
 
I don't believe in important secrets being kept long term. Basically, if an organization claims to have kept secrets for hundreds of years, those secrets are probably not worth knowing. Anything else involves far too much of a leap of faith at the ability of people to keep secrets.

So I vote frat.
 
"Not true, actually. Generally speaking, they select their members, you don't apply."

In actual fact, you apply as an individual, although a brother mason can invite a person he feels would be a good mason.

there is NOTHING evil or satanic or world domination hidden agenda-esque about masonry.

take a look at this mason info site.
http://www.freemasonry.org/

there is not too much about masonry that is still secret, passwords and symbols will not be revealed, but there is nothing to stop you revealing you are a mason and explaining some part of the ritual to a non-brother.

if you have any interest in being part of a historic brotherhood, whose goal is to take a 'rough stone of man' and polish him into a strong member of a community, then i would advise you to join.

anyone expecting Spartacus Weisshaff illuminatus Rex will be VERY disappointed.
 
Since they sometimes go by Stonecutters, did the Masons start out as a community of like trade? A fraternity or brotherhood of stone workers? I've heard of this, and it starting back in Sumerian times. If so, that would make the Sun/Son thing make sense in a Zoarasterian way. Has this trade tradition continued with masonry sects for Lawyers and Doctors?
 
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Templar Wizard said:
there is NOTHING evil or satanic or world domination hidden agenda-esque about masonry.
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errrr. i disagree. there are quotes from a well known, high ranking(highest degree...i think 32 or 33) that says their god is lucifer. the god of earth. thousand points of light. the fallen angel.

while you may disagree with the site, the quotes have never been proven false.

check this site:

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/3index.html
 
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