TransTrender
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Arkane and Spencer promised Redfall will be their most supported game post-launch, 3 months later Redfall no updates, users are angry for being lied
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*crawling
Vox Machina
Banned
Why?
Kiraly
Member
And how wonderful it is now that MS gave this "irresponsibly" large game the time and investment to allow it to become what it is now.
When you saying this in the Redfall thread it sounds menacing.
Stare-Bear
Banned
Don’t believe his lies…
Bumblebeetuna
Member
What exactly do I deserve here? Redfall is not a good game, am I supposed to stress myself out or get upset because I think they arent working on updates fast enough? No, because the game sucks, so I don’t really care about the rate of updates.
It would be one thing if they released it and abandoned it, but that’s not what is happening. I’m not going to apologize for not acting like an emotional simpleton.
You get what you deserve
Adorable.
MadPanda
Banned
I hope they don't refund anyone. Let this be their lesson. They had no good reason to pre-order it, yet they went and bought the most expensive editions before they had reviews. If they refund them, they won't learn a lesson and will continue to do the same.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Truly holding them accountable eh
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Those people clearly don't deserve it then
Edit: but it would have also come out like 16 months ago and probably have been scoped down
Vox Machina
Banned
Nope. I truly doubt they spent both delays just doing QA. Something would have been on the chopping block if it launched at the original date.
But...
You seem to care deeply about the rate of updates (bug fixes mind, not the promised Hero Pass content or 60fps performance patch). All in the name of damage control of course.
systemr123
Banned
Maybe he didn’t lie, and he really has a good timeline, like in, never until time stops running?
Don’t believe his lies…
Mr Moose
Member
Elden Ring released last year.
Barakov
Gold Member
Even if it comes out, this is a case of too little, too late.
Don’t believe his lies…
SidViscous
Member
Microsoft won’t want a class action lawsuit, the fact the game said it was 60fps on the physical box means they have to release a patch for it, even if nobody is playing it.
Bethesda Microsoft published the game so this is 100% on them, they should be never have shipped it in this state knowing the promises they had made.
Phil needs to grow balls and learn to fire people, did Bonnie Ross return from her “personal leave” to QA this or something?
Bethesda Microsoft published the game so this is 100% on them, they should be never have shipped it in this state knowing the promises they had made.
Phil needs to grow balls and learn to fire people, did Bonnie Ross return from her “personal leave” to QA this or something?
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veterangamerUK
Member
Anyone who believes what comes out of Spencer’s mouth probably trust car salesmen too
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
At least they don't promise 60fps for Starfield lol.
March Climber
Gold Member
As with all games that have had this bad of a launch, I give them up to one full year for any substantial updates to release. They can still bounce back from this with a ‘comeback story’ but it will take a long time of them humbling themselves, being radio silent, pulling their sleeves up, and getting to work. No social media whining, no excuses, no bullshit PR, just coders coding and animators animating. They might as well also ask the DOOM devs for help, as nearly everyone else crawls to them for help when their game isn’t up to par(and I hope they asked MS/Bethesda for raises due to this).
If nothing at all happens within one year, the game is truly dead.
The clock is ticking.
If nothing at all happens within one year, the game is truly dead.
The clock is ticking.
The Cockatrice
Gold Member
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It is though.
The topic title is Arkane's statement, not Spencers. Redfall should be criticized for its shortcomings, but we don't need a false statement in the topic title to drum up more sensationalism and fanboy fodder.
ok ?
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rickybooby87
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graywolf323
Member
there you go, that’s straight from the horse’s mouthIn the latest episode of the Kinda Funny Games podcast, Microsoft Gaming CEO Phil Spencer commented on the negative reception to Arkane Austin's Redfall. The executive took full responsibility while saying he won't apologize for the creative aspirations of the teams.
The team at Arkane is on taking the near-term feedback. We're still working on the 60 frames per second, we have a good timeline for that. We're committed to getting that done. We're going to continue to work the game. I think we've shown a committment to games like Sea of Thieves and Grounded to continue to build games. I also know that these games are $70 and I'll take full responsibility for launching a game that needs to be great.
Spencer Comments on Redfall Reception, Says Arkane Will Improve It and Has Good Timeline for 60FPS on Xbox
Phil Spencer shared comments on the underwhelming reception to Redfall. He said the studio will improve it and add 60FPS on Xbox soon.wccftech.com
I’m sure you’ll find a way to spin it though because that’s what you’re here for
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
’m sure you’ll find a way to spin it though because that’s what you’re here for
I'm sorry, I didn't realize we're just supposed to accept two completely different quotes as the same because "Phil"
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Holy shit, being aware of the two patches for the game means I “care deeply”
You’re aware of “hero pass content” and “60fps patch”, do you “care deeply” about Redfall? All in the name of juvenile console warz of course.Some of you need to understand what damage control is. Correcting your stupid narratives isn’t damage control.
Truly holding them accountable eh
Ive said the game sucks and it shouldn’t have released in the state it did. If I play a game on GamePass and it’s good, I buy it. I didn’t buy Redfall. Exactly how else am I supposed to “hold them accountable”
Unknown?
Member
I remember when games were free at Blockbuster, for 5 whole days!
skit_data
Member
Dropping post launch support and having the devs focus on future releases is probably the right thing to do.
Would've been better to just not commit to anything. Phil Spencer has a tendency to (for some inexplicable reason) over emphasize some stuff he probably should just not comment on because the risk of it coming back to bite is bigger than the potential gain.
Would've been better to just not commit to anything. Phil Spencer has a tendency to (for some inexplicable reason) over emphasize some stuff he probably should just not comment on because the risk of it coming back to bite is bigger than the potential gain.
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Topher
Identifies as young
Oh.....so you are upset about the "most supported game" line? Eh.....ok? Last time I checked Arkane works for Phil Spencer. Their commitments are his. Either way, Phil Spencer explicitly said they were going to fix Redfall and three months later.....nothing. That's the larger issue here.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
It is, but only if Microsoft refunds those who purchased the game.
Surely anyone who bought it, presumably bought it because they are fans of Arkane (no idea why they’d buy it and not play on gamespass). You’d think they would be happy they’ve dropped it like the heavy dead corpse it is to hopefully work on something people might actually like.
Holy shit, being aware of the two patches for the game means I “care deeply”
Some of you need to understand what damage control is. Correcting your stupid narratives isn’t damage control.
Because I read the OP to see what it's about and the grievances in it, did you? Here it is in case you missed it:
now if you care so little about redfall and its update schedule why are you here trying to sell bug fixes you seem to have researched release dates about as massive updates then saying you don't actually care about what updates the game got? It didn't get the updates the OP mentions. It may do in future but don't pass it off as the same thing and say the topic is "a crock of shit" then pretend you don't actually care about the subject of updates when you do. I'm sure these updates will actually come, maybe even very soon judging by this news but there is no need for your damage control in it, having not even understood what it's about.
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EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.1
They lost their minds it putting Redfall on PlayStation.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Of course I read the OP, and the Reddit post linked. Yes, it’s a crock of shit
Hope that makes it clear for you. A 30+ GB patch that changes a lot in the game isn’t a “hotfix”. And I know about the patches because they installed on my Series X. Furthermore the talk in the thread is that the game has been abandoned entirely, not that these two specific pieces of content are still missing. Again, disproving stupid console warrior narratives isn’t damage control. Let me know if you need it repeated. Redfall is a turd, no one is defending it or doing damage control. I know a lot of you go insane when Phil Spencer or Xbox is involved but you should probably calm down on the warrior nonsense. Not going to bother replying to you anymore, feel free to post another GameFAQS tier reply.
SEGAvangelist
Member
They obviously don't want the game in the news until the 60fps mode hits. It's probably best they are handling it this way.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
No one is playing it, why would they put more time into it? Better to move on.
Topher
Identifies as young
Because they said they would. Perhaps if they put the effort into the game that was promised then more people would play it.
Fbh
Gold Member
Why would anyone want Arkane to spend more time and money on content for this crappy game?.
I guess the 60fps patch will be coming as they explicitly promised it (even on the box of the game). But afterwards it would be best for everyone if they just drop it and move on.
But also lol at people defending them with "they actually have supported it with HUGE patches........to fix the horrible technical issues it launched with"
I guess the 60fps patch will be coming as they explicitly promised it (even on the box of the game). But afterwards it would be best for everyone if they just drop it and move on.
But also lol at people defending them with "they actually have supported it with HUGE patches........to fix the horrible technical issues it launched with"
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Klayzer
Member
Also, they should because of future releases as well. If they don't, the gaming culture will turn on a dev instantly.
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Topher
Identifies as young
I'd be fine with that if they refunded those who paid money for it. But as it is, Phil Spencer doubled down and compared what they will do with Redfall to their continued work on Redfall to Sea of Thieves and Grounded. That's means a long term commitment. As a platform owner, I think Microsoft really has to fulfill their promises to protect the integrity of the Xbox ecosystem. Because even if MS refunds the purchases, there will always be that stigma around the Xbox brand of giving up on their own first party titles. That's not a good place to be, imo.
Klayzer
Member
I absolutely agree with your take on it. A negative stigma attached to your brand, is hard to shake when you're fighting for the same customers as Nintendo/Sony.
MasterCornholio
Member
I think it's more like they said they would. Not necessarily because many think it's garbage and doesn't deserve the extra attention.
Slicker than your average
Banned
Because people paid money for an incomplete product maybe?
Any excuse not to hold MS accountable though .
Vox Machina
Banned
Wait we can straight up lie here? This changes everything!