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Australian citizens to soon have gold plated cars and ridiculously large buildings

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Dizzan

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because we are now in the money!

Not new news but it just came up in my Google+ stream

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-24/major-oil-discovery-in-outback-sa/4481982

Brisbane company Linc Energy says independent studies have confirmed a major shale oil source in South Australia's far north, which officials have estimated could be worth $20 trillion.

The company says US-consultants have carried out drilling and geological and seismic surveys around Coober Pedy.

Linc Energy holds rights over more than 65,000 square kilometres of land in the Arckaringa Basin and started explorations in 2008.

In a statement to the Stock Exchange, the company said reports from US-based consultants indicate underlying rock formations "are rich in oil and gas-prone kerogen".

The company says up to 233 billion barrels of oil are estimated to be trapped in the shale.

Chief executive Peter Bond says even if the amount of retrievable oil is well below that, the discovery is still "bigger than the Cooper Basin and Bass Strait combined".

"If you stress test it right down and you only took the very sweetest spots in the absolute known areas and you do nothing else, it's about 3.5 billion [barrels] and that's sort of worse-case scenario," he said.

"So if you took the 233 billion, well, you're talking Saudi Arabia numbers. It's massive, it's just huge.

"We've also spent a lot of time with our own geologists and external geologists trying to unlock what's the best option there.

"What it could do is really turn this thing into the next boom, so where you saw coal-bed methane transform Queensland and the gas industry, shale could and I think will transform South Australia and a potential oil boom."

Costly extraction

But Mr Bond says it could cost up to $300 million to prepare the site for production.

"We've got something in excess of a billion-dollar market cap... but the issue here isn't just capital. It's the expertise to unlock the acreage as well," he said.

"We will seek a partner to both fund that and work with us from a technical perspective and that could be anybody.

"It could be a major oil company, it could be one of the major operators in shale, it could be one of the larger overseas oil groups."

Mr Bond says the discovery has the potential to bolster the nation's energy security.

"We are importing more and more oil every day. Australia was relatively self-sufficient in oil in 2000, 2001, but since then we've been falling off the peak oil curve for quite a while now," he said.

"Australia currently consumes just under a million barrels of oil a day of which we are probably producing something less than half that or around half that depending on the numbers you read.

"You'd have to get up over 500,000 barrels a day to put yourself into a net energy export position which would be significant.

"Any oil field that can do 500,000 barrels a day is massive in anyone's books.

"It would be a push to get to that high. That would basically be getting out to full production. It's hit all the runs and done all the right things to get up to that size but if it does, you potentially would be getting up around being an oil exporter.

"By then much of your other oil production in Australia would have dropped off even more and you'll be just starting to fill the gaps there."

'Remote and deep'

Shale oil is more costly to extract and more controversial than conventional crude and involves fracking, in which water is pumped in to break up the shale.

South Australian Mining Minister Tom Koutsantonis says it is much too early to say if the reserve can be profitably tapped.

"What they think they've found, or they have found, but whether it's economic to recover or not is still the question, is vast reserves of shale oil," he said.

"It's basically oil which is trapped in low-permeability, clay-rich rocks so it's within the rocks and you fracture-stimulate those rocks to release the oil.

"There are processes now where you can unconventionally retrieve these reserves.

"If the reserves and the pressure was right over millions of years and the rocks have done the things they think they've done, they think they can extract vast reserves of oil out of South Australia which would have a value of about $20 trillion.

"South Australia is blessed with abundant resources but there are a few setbacks and those setbacks are that they're remote and they're deep."

But Mr Koutsantonis says the discovery is not another example of 'pie in the sky' after BHP Billiton cancelled its Olympic Dam expansion in the state's north last year.

"All these things are luck and risk. I think what we're seeing up there is a very, very big deposit. There's more drilling to be done. If it comes off, it will certainly be a very significant amount of oil reserves."

'Quality not quantity'

John Young, a senior resources analyst at Wilson HTM, says it is important to take these preliminary figures with a grain of salt.

"I think we need to recognise these represent, at this point in time, what people believe to be there and what might be able to be recovered, but we've still got some significant way to go before people have actually commercially recovered resources out of these shales," he observed.

He says it is still to early to fully assess the quality of the resource, and how much is extractable at a commercially competitive cost.

"I think it's unwise to hang one's hat too much on the size of the numbers," he added.

"The numbers are going to be very large, but we really need to move from that in terms of this focus around the quantity to ultimately one of the quality of the resource - how good is it, how economic will it be, and that's going to take a significant amount of exploration and appraisal work before the industry's in a position to determine that."

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ItAintEasyBeinCheesy

it's 4th of July in my asshole
And it will be exported and we will have to still pay 1.50 a litre for fuel. Just like all Australia's resources, fuel the world, fuck the people.
 

Kai Dracon

Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
It's Australia.

When they drill a hole for this shit, Kaiju are going to come out.

On the other hand, they've got that covered.

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Dizzan

MINI Member
It's really awesome being a country with a tiny population but gargantuan quantities of natural resources.

It's just a shame I have nothing (directly) to do with mining.

I do build offices though and I recently did a fitout for a mining company, so winning!
 

Ether_Snake

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Funny how the only thing the rich oil companies have to do is let citizens enjoy the shares of the profits and then use that to make everyone beg them to dig for oil on their turfs.

But no, Australians won't see a difference.
 
And it will be exported and we will have to still pay 1.50 a litre for fuel. Just like all Australia's resources, fuel the world, fuck the people.

well, yes, that's how a global economy works.

if you don't wana share your oil, then i guess the world shouldn't export anything there right? food, water, electronics, etc?

Funny how the only thing the rich oil companies have to do is let citizens enjoy the shares of the profits and then use that to make everyone beg them to dig for oil on their turfs.

But no, Australians won't see a difference.

kinda like how Australians didn't see a difference with the mining boom in Australia? give me a break. Australians did see a diff, and will see a diff. just hte ones that got a job there.
 
I said this on our show, but Australia better REALLY hope that America elects someone with a fucking D next to their name in 2016.

Because if they don't, you best believe we're going to figure out SOME way to shove you guys off the fresh tit you just conjured up.
 

Dead Man

Member
well, yes, that's how a global economy works.

if you don't wana share your oil, then i guess the world shouldn't export anything there right? food, water, electronics, etc?



kinda like how Australians didn't see a difference with the mining boom in Australia? give me a break. Australians did see a diff, and will see a diff. just hte ones that got a job there.

It is more the lack of public profit off the shared resources. The profit goes to people in the industry, fair enough. But they should noty be the only ones profiting off a shared resource.
 
Meanwhile in NZ: John Key "our plan to have equal wages with Australia is on track for 2513".

Good to see there will be more cashed up bogans.
 
It is more the lack of public profit off the shared resources. The profit goes to people in the industry, fair enough. But they should noty be the only ones profiting off a shared resource.

the profit goes to them, they pay tax on it, they spend that money on domestic consumption, everyone else wins?

the corporation makes profit on the resources, they pay taxes, tax goes to government, everyone wins...

what exactly is the issue here? you want state-owned enterprises to operate now? so that any profit they make the gov can use?
 

Dead Man

Member
the profit goes to them, they pay tax on it, they spend that money on domestic consumption, everyone else wins?

the corporation makes profit on the resources, they pay taxes, tax goes to government, everyone wins...

what exactly is the issue here? you want state-owned enterprises to operate now? so that any profit they make the gov can use?

I want a proper resource tax to be in place. Why should a company get to sell all the iron or all the oil in a coutnry and take the lions share of the profits? They should earn for doing the work, sure, but the people that own the land they are taking the resources out of should get a much better deal than they currently do.
 

sans_pants

avec_pénis
Maybe you should think about what life would be like without oil before saying stuff like that :)

I would like some more urgency to move to renewable sources. but slow urgency, im not bout that panic life


also it is dumb that the public doesnt earn off their resources. sure, they get jobs and stuff but profits still go to very few people
 
I want a proper resource tax to be in place. Why should a company get to sell all the iron or all the oil in a coutnry and take the lions share of the profits? They should earn for doing the work, sure, but the people that own the land they are taking the resources out of should get a much better deal than they currently do.

it's up to the people whose land it is to negotiate whatever deal they want, not your prerogative to tell ppl on what to do with their land.

but let's play. how much do you think is fair?

do you think these companies should only be operating at like a 5% profit margin? 1%?

please enlighten me on your business and macroeconomic policy idea

I would like some more urgency to move to renewable sources. but slow urgency, im not bout that panic life


also it is dumb that the public doesnt earn off their resources. sure, they get jobs and stuff but profits still go to very few people

can you tell me how few?
 

segasonic

Member
Maybe you should think about what life would be like without oil before saying stuff like that :)

In the long run: Much better? Humanity lived thousands of years without fossile oil. If anything dependency on fossile oil is holding back progress...
 

Dead Man

Member
it's up to the people whose land it is to negotiate whatever deal they want, not your prerogative to tell ppl on what to do with their land.

but let's play. how much do you think is fair?

do you think these companies should only be operating at like a 5% profit margin? 1%?

please enlighten me on your business and macroeconomic policy idea



can you tell me how few?

It is almost always public land. Which would be the point I was making.

As for the rest of your attitude, you can go play by yourself, I don't respond well to snide bollocks like that.
 

ItAintEasyBeinCheesy

it's 4th of July in my asshole
well, yes, that's how a global economy works.

if you don't wana share your oil, then i guess the world shouldn't export anything there right? food, water, electronics, etc?

If they end up getting the oil it will probably be the same as with coal and uranium. We are too worried about carbon emissions that we want to faze out coal and have a retarded stance on nuclear power........ but it's fine to export all the coal and uranium to rest of the world while we get jacked on power prices.
 

xenist

Member
Sadly Aussies ain't gonna be seeing shit compared to what oil companies are gonna make. Unless Gillard decides to keep all the oil money for herself and then proceeds to distribute some of it to keep the people from overthrowing her.
 

senahorse

Member
Sadly Aussies ain't gonna be seeing shit compared to what oil companies are gonna make. Unless Gillard decides to keep all the oil money for herself and then proceeds to distribute some of it to keep the people from overthrowing her.

Gillard got ousted, we're back to Rudd Bucks.
 

ItAintEasyBeinCheesy

it's 4th of July in my asshole
Sadly Aussies ain't gonna be seeing shit compared to what oil companies are gonna make. Unless Gillard decides to keep all the oil money for herself and then proceeds to distribute some of it to keep the people from overthrowing her.

HHAHAHAHAHA

Catch up dude.
 
I want a proper resource tax to be in place. Why should a company get to sell all the iron or all the oil in a coutnry and take the lions share of the profits? They should earn for doing the work, sure, but the people that own the land they are taking the resources out of should get a much better deal than they currently do.

Completely agree. The system in place atm is nuts, but I doubt it's gonna change somehow :(


I don't know why this made me laugh so much. Ask a stupid question...
 
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